The Mourinho Thread

[DDA 9,957]

Calling all Chelsea fans wankers because they disagree with you nice one. You can't see the wood for the trees that's your problem son. At the moment Mourinho looks like a frustrated father who's watching his kids under 10 team getting soundly beaten every week. And instead of facing up to his own inadequacies he's looking for scapegoats to blame.

Calling everyone wankers was strong. I have to hold my hands up there and apologise but it angers me soo much to see our fans turn on Jose Mourinho. This is a man who has given us unforgettable memories (good ones). Yes he is making consistent mistakes thus far but we are only 5 games in... That's 5 flipping games.

It feels like this forum has turned into a Real Madrid forum or something.

Maybe I

[didierforever 7,349]

Welp, guess we'll be doing the relegation battle then.

we are 17th.not even in relegation zone!!! party time... iva for another match!!!!

[didierforever 7,349]

how can people not understand a simple thing as this.

IT IS NOT ABOUT OUR POOR RESULTS IN THESE 6 GAMES. IT IS NOT ABOUT LOSING.

it is simply about the FACT, that jose is putting his love for certain players over the goodness of the club. how difficult is this to understand? i mean seriously.

[lionsden 4,689]

Here's a scary thought. What if Jose genuinely believes the crap he's been saying in his post match interviews that we have been playing well and creating chances but just unlucky. It's also possible that he doesn't think the performances of some key players is as bad as most people do.

For there to be a possibility of a turn around, the manager, first, has to concede that we have been absolutely dogshite and seek to identify the reason behind it. To me its either he recognises how bad we have been but too stubborn and clueless on How to fix it or he's completely delusional. Either way we are fucked.

[didierforever 7,349]

Here's a scary thought. What if Jose genuinely believes the crap he's been saying in his post match interviews that we have been playing well and creating chances but just unlucky. It's also possible that he doesn't think the performances of some key players is as bad as most people do.

For there to be a possibility of a turn around, the manager, first, has to concede that we have been absolutely dogshite and seek to identify the reason behind it. To me its either he recognises how bad we have been and clueless on How to fix it or he's completely delusional. Either way we are fucked.

what jose is doing currently, i can do that.

keep choosing the same team and players again and again and again, and magically hope for things to be fine.

[lionsden 4,689]

what jose is doing currently, i can do that.

keep choosing the same team and players again and again and again, and magically hope for things to be fine.

That's the definition of insanity according to Einstein.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

Roman Abramovich MAKE Eva Carneiro THE CHELSEA FC MANAGER AND WHOEVER SCORES THE MOST GOALS AND ASSISTS GET THE PUSSY AND OR GETS THE CHELSEA FC GANGBANG LEADER'S ARMBAND.

[robsblubot 3,595]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jhIqRX7Da0

Wow who would have thought all players have to defend?! And that our problems are not just in D!

W have players in poor form, but their mistakes are made worse by the lack of teamwork. Or their collective lack of form is hurting teamwork - goes both ways.

We were in the same situation 2 seasons back. Luiz got replaced by Gary in D and nothing really changed until the protection got sorted eventually.

Point being is that the selection is less important than the unity, tactics, and teamwork. Sort that and even ivanovic will perform better. Sometimes replacing a player in bad form hurts unity because the other players may think they are next... Sometimes that's a good thing sometimes it isn't - spec when confidence is low.

I don't know if ppl around here are that naive to think that with a sub here and there, or by bringing Moses back, we'd be top of the league, but I suspect it's just wishful thinking. Thankfully football is bit more nuanced than that.

[didierforever 7,349]

That's the definition of insanity according to Einstein.

read the above post man.

it would hurt the team unity. forget the fact that our players wont put in any fight cos players like remy, baba, RLC would already know what their fate would be in team selection. forget the fact that someone like moses would currently be a better player to be on pitch than willian or hazard in this form, and forget the fact that people would simply stop fighting for their places in the team when they know irrespective of everything, what the starting 11 is.

we should simply play the same 11 so as not to hurt the "confidence".

i guess einstien was a MORON wrapped in an idiot.

[manpe 10,861]

Roman Abramovich MAKE Eva Carneiro THE CHELSEA FC MANAGER AND WHOEVER SCORES THE MOST GOALS AND ASSISTS GET THE PUSSY AND OR GETS THE CHELSEA FC GANGBANG LEADER'S ARMBAND.

What an unfortunate and disrespectful comment towards Eva.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

What an unfortunate and disrespectful comment towards Eva.

i didn't mean it. i just posted it just for the sake of it. if you haven't noticed by now. most of my posts on this forum are mostly just for taking the piss or attention seeking. if you are easily offended or take offense to things easily and that is not my problem because i find these types of forums pointless because everyone on here think their thoughts or opinions are better and correct and think their post makes any difference because none of us here can run the club. we just sit here and post all day long on this forum and it won't make a difference in what the club does or achieves on the pitch.

[robsblubot 3,595]

read the above post man.

it would hurt the team unity. forget the fact that our players wont put in any fight cos players like remy, baba, RLC would already know what their fate would be in team selection. forget the fact that someone like moses would currently be a better player to be on pitch than willian or hazard in this form, and forget the fact that people would simply stop fighting for their places in the team when they know irrespective of everything, what the starting 11 is.

we should simply play the same 11 so as not to hurt the "confidence".

i guess einstien was a MORON wrapped in an idiot.

Just to be clear once again, you are saying (with all the elegance we know you for) that all underperforming players should have been replaced by youngsters and squad players, which at this time would mean at least half of the team, to play in the premiere league against millionaires.... Really?!

It's not that I find the whole idea crazy, but rather that it has been done/tried before and it never works. I've seen it done a number of times and it fails for a number of reasons including the obvious fact that the senior players, highest salaries, hold power (again in a number of ways).

So what you want cant happen.

Btw did you watch the video? Do you think team selection is the only variable? Do you think really that Jose is not making changes even though the same players start? Wow!

[didierforever 7,349]

Just to be clear once again, you are saying (with all the elegance we know you for) that all underperforming players should have been replaced by youngsters and squad players, which at this time would mean at least half of the team, to play in the premiere league against millionaires.... Really?!

It's not that I find the whole idea crazy, but rather that it has been done/tried before and it never works. I've seen it done a number of times and it fails for a number of reasons including the obvious fact that the senior players, highest salaries, hold power (again in a number of ways).

So what you want cant happen.

Btw did you watch the video? Do you think team selection is the only variable? Do you think really that Jose is not making changes even though the same players start? Wow!

baba is a 21 million signing. multi millionaire.

bego

azpi-zouma-GC-baba

matic-rlc

pedro-oscar/willian-hazard

remy

replace a 9mil iva with 21 million baba, replace a 32mil costa with 10mil remy. replace a 27 mil cesc with a youth player (but the best possible option is rambo is injured).

hardly seems like making wholesale changes. just seems the obvious thing to do.

and yes, i do think that team selection is the MAIN variable here. what changes has jose made? tibo was suspended so got bego in? jt was suspended so got zouma in. oscar and rambo were injured so got mikel in?

cesc and iva have been our worst players by a light year and still start every game.

if what i want cant happen or the best manager in the world cant drop 3 of the most under-performing players, then well, we can stop calling him the best manager in teh world. remember saf. remember beckham, nisterlooy, keane, rooney? thats how a manager is... not someone who keeps playing his favourite or probably the player who has more rating in fifa. he does what is best for the team.

PS - if he does not want to play kids against "millionaires", what is mvg/pasalic doing on loan? what is moses doing on loan?

[kellzfresh 7,229]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jhIqRX7Da0

Excellent analysis on how terrible our teamwork has been. Like the players are lazing about and don't care to watch each others backs. The number of times Matic or Terry are left alone without any teammates in sight is so unlike Mourinho. We don't press and defend together as a team, it's too disjointed.

[robsblubot 3,595]

baba is a 21 million signing. multi millionaire.

bego

azpi-zouma-GC-baba

matic-rlc

pedro-oscar/willian-hazard

remy

replace a 9mil iva with 21 million baba, replace a 32mil costa with 10mil remy. replace a 27 mil cesc with a youth player (but the best possible option is rambo is injured).

hardly seems like making wholesale changes. just seems the obvious thing to do.

and yes, i do think that team selection is the MAIN variable here. what changes has jose made? tibo was suspended so got bego in? jt was suspended so got zouma in. oscar and rambo were injured so got mikel in?

cesc and iva have been our worst players by a light year and still start every game.

if what i want cant happen or the best manager in the world cant drop 3 of the most under-performing players, then well, we can stop calling him the best manager in teh world. remember saf. remember beckham, nisterlooy, keane, rooney? thats how a manager is... not someone who keeps playing his favourite or probably the player who has more rating in fifa. he does what is best for the team.

PS - if he does not want to play kids against "millionaires", what is mvg/pasalic doing on loan? what is moses doing on loan?

If the team selection is the Main variable like you say, how did the same players won the league last season? You see the problem with your reasoning here?

[didierforever 7,349]

If the team selection is the Main variable like you say, how did the same players won the league last season? You see the problem with your reasoning here?

is this a joke?

do u understand the concept of form? the concept of passion, motivation?

these players currently have none of the 3 above attributes. and that is when players need to be dropped. let them regain their form. give them some time off. lower the pressure on their heads and shoulders.

i actually cant believe some one can ask this question. damn!!!

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

If the team selection is the Main variable like you say, how did the same players won the league last season? You see the problem with your reasoning here?

The two biggest differences between this season and last season are: 1) Lack of teamwork/laziness of the ball and 2) Opponents figuring out our weaknesses and exploiting them

We don't have a Plan B...and neither of our creative players have been able to bail us out this season with a goal/assist

[lionsden 4,689]

If the team selection is the Main variable like you say, how did the same players won the league last season? You see the problem with your reasoning here?

I'm sure mourinho shares the same mentality and line of reasoning as you and that's precisely why we are in this mess. Continue to play out of form, Demotivated and under performing players. Brilliant idea. Do the same things over and over and expect different result is just sheer genius.

[lionsden 4,689]

is this a joke?

do u understand the concept of form? the concept of passion, motivation?

these players currently have none of the 3 above attributes. and that is when players need to be dropped. let them regain their form. give them some time off. lower the pressure on their heads and shoulders.

i actually cant believe some one can ask this question. damn!!!

Its ridiculous isn't it. Whats the point of having a squad at all if we are only going to use it in the case of injury or suspension.

We haven't even consider the demoralising effect lack of rotation has on players who are bursting their assess on the training ground but never get a look in even when the regular starters are grossly out of form and the senior players have no motivation to fight for their places either in the absence of healthy competition.

[robsblubot 3,595]

I thought we had already established that we don't have a squad but a team with little rotation potential. What has changed esp after a quiet transfer window and injuries? Now the idea that the youngsters will come and fix things just does not happen. At least not like this. Don't throw the likes of RLC under the bus...

is this a joke?

do u understand the concept of form? the concept of passion, motivation?

these players currently have none of the 3 above attributes. and that is when players need to be dropped. let them regain their form. give them some time off. lower the pressure on their heads and shoulders.

i actually cant believe some one can ask this question. damn!!!

I also cannot believe I am debating the existence of unity and teamwork... It was so very nicely explained on the video above. So what do all top coaches at Chelsea, our top manager and our top players do between games? Play videogames? If the team selection is the main thing then Jose is and has always been useless - should def tell roman might save him a few bucks.

Also, New players need to gel in and make positional mistakes in relation to the team, because they don't yet belong in that unity neither do they have trust. He has already made a couple of changes to no effect. Nothing drastic will happen - never does.

You are assuming that he who does not play is better than the one who does, or would have been better. But we don't really know that. You may claim you do, and you write as if you did, but you don't. And Neither do I.