The Mourinho Thread

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Impossible to mention Mourinho here: weird tactics in the first leg, and awkward line-up today. Second season in a row, and no trophies for the special one, second season in a row he was outclassed by another manager (Klopp last season).

Just like Guardiola, Mourinho should rethink his football philosophy.

I don't think it's that straight-forward though. Guardiola took over the treble winners and made them worse. Mourinho took over the 3rd best team in England and made them much better. Losing to an Atletico side who are a stronger and better team than us, a team that hasn't lost a single game in the CL all season and that has only lost twice in their domestic league. Costa, Turan, Koke, Villa, Courtois, their entire back four, and some genuine quality off the bench in Diego,Rodriguez and Garcia. They are a formidable TEAM.

As for last season in Madrid: It's well known Mourinho had already lost the dressing room. The players were not playing for him anymore but for their fans only. There is no shame in losing to THAT Dortmund team last season. That was a great side. Besides, Madrid kind of redeemed themselves in the 2nd leg, and if not for the poor finishing of Higuain, could have turned it around.

This is more to do with the squad not being strong enough (yet) than Mourinho, I'm sure you already know that. But I do agree with you about the Azpi thing. It was wierd and un-called for. We had to start that game on the front foot. Trying to "stabilize" and build from there only suited Atletico because all they needed was the away goal. They didn't have to win, so Jose takes some of the blame.

[Styles 9,790]

I think this CL season proved that sometime YOU HAVE TO CHANGE TO SURVIVE. Pep with his tiki-taka dominated Europe from 08-11 but now getting raped like Bara did last season. Jose is a great manager, one of the best there is in the world atm, but he also need to change his approach. Sometime too cautious WILL COST YOU as we seen with this tie with Madrid. If we have gone for an away goal in the 1st leg we might have lost but we could have also give ourselves a better chance today imo.

Last year he tried it with Real too but got destroyed by Dortmund in the 1st leg and ultimately losing it. So once he learns from his mistake and change a little bit next season, we will be a great force again that teams will fear.

I want to believe Jose is too cautious because he knows the teams limitations. It's up to him now to improve and assemble a team that can compete with the likes of Atletico. We opened up in the second half tonight and we couldn't get near them, they took us apart. We really have to develop a style of play beyond just soaking up pressure and counter-attacking.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

I want to believe Jose is too cautious because he knows the teams limitations. It's up to him now to improve and assemble a team that can compete with the likes of Atletico. We opened up in the second half tonight and we couldn't get near them, they took us apart. We really have to develop a style of play beyond just soaking up pressure and counter-attacking.

That is because we have been too one dimensional like you said at the end, a bit like Bayern except their passing style instead of counter attacking. We need to be able to play like Man City at home where we just go all out attack instead of just always play a bit safe and never go for the juggernaut.

[Henrique 9,133]

I want to believe Jose is too cautious because he knows the teams limitations. It's up to him now to improve and assemble a team that can compete with the likes of Atletico. We opened up in the second half tonight and we couldn't get near them, they took us apart. We really have to develop a style of play beyond just soaking up pressure and counter-attacking.

Do you believe the team is more limited than Atlético, in terms of individual quality?

[Henrique 9,133]

Ignore this guy he only joined when Scolari came and has been bitter ever since we sacked his hero

I joined this forum in 2010, Ancelotti was the manager. Scolari was sacked 1 year earlier. Why you keep talking bullshit, my friend?

[The Skipper 20,593]

I think this CL season proved that sometime YOU HAVE TO CHANGE TO SURVIVE. Pep with his tiki-taka dominated Europe from 08-11 but now getting raped like Bara did last season. Jose is a great manager, one of the best there is in the world atm, but he also need to change his approach. Sometime too cautious WILL COST YOU as we seen with this tie with Madrid. If we have gone for an away goal in the 1st leg we might have lost but we could have also give ourselves a better chance today imo.

Last year he tried it with Real too but got destroyed by Dortmund in the 1st leg and ultimately losing it. So once he learns from his mistake and change a little bit next season, we will be a great force again that teams will fear.

Yup, pretty much this.

[zolayes 14,489]

I joined this forum in 2010, Ancelotti was the manager. Scolari was sacked 1 year earlier. Why you keep talking bullshit, my friend?

NEVER call me friend till you give money here

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

4 straight semi's and no final. Only a matter of time though.

For jose?

bad stats...

[zolayes 14,489]

For jose?

bad stats...

How many coaches have made 4 CL semi finals ???

[Henrique 9,133]

NEVER call me friend till you give money here

YOU were licking AVB balls years ago. That alone makes you laughable character, my friend.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

How many coaches have made 4 CL semi finals ???

Pep, Ancelotti, think Van Gaal and maybe Hyenckes too, also Sir Alex and it is off the top of my head, I am sure there are more. It is a great record but nothing to be proud about or amazing. In fact coming close so many time is never a good thing either.

[zolayes 14,489]

YOU were licking AVB balls years ago. That alone makes you laughable character, my friend.

and you with your Masters degree too fucking poor to contribute £2

[Henrique 9,133]

How many coaches have made 4 CL semi finals ???

I think Jose is the one who thinks if you are 2nd, you are a loser.

Also, how many coaches had expensive squads in past 4 years? Real Madrid + Chelsea?

[zolayes 14,489]

Pep, Ancelotti, think Van Gaal and maybe Hyenckes too, also Sir Alex and it is off the top of my head, I am sure there are more. It is a great record but nothing to be proud about or amazing. In fact coming close so many time is never a good thing either.

4 semi finals is NOT amazing ... then WTF is

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

4 semi finals is NOT amazing ... then WTF is

Erm winning it? It is a good thing showing that he comes close many time but it is NOT AMAZING. In fact it was minimum expectations for some of the team he managed. Just like this season is a failure for Munich even if they already won the league. Amazing is stuff like Dortmund last season or Atletico atm or Porto 2003 or us 2012. That is amazing, it is not just about coming close but actually getting there in the end too

[zolayes 14,489]

YOU were licking AVB balls years ago. That alone makes you laughable character, my friend.

you have always been up Scolaris arse ,, For the sake our Brazilian players I wish them well in the WC .. but you make it hard to support them

[zolayes 14,489]

Erm winning it? It is a good thing showing that he comes close many time but it is NOT AMAZING. In fact it was minimum expectations for some of the team he managed. Just like this season is a failure for Munich even if they already won the league. Amazing is stuff like Dortmund last season or Atletico atm or Porto 2003 or us 2012. That is amazing, it is not just about coming close but actually getting there in the end too

do you remember the thrill of winning the Members CUP

[boshman 1,073]

do you remember the thrill of winning the Members CUP

Would i be correct in saying we won that 5-4 after being 5-1 up againts City? That's got to be pretty thrilling right!!