xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Many mistakes from him.Transfers, tactics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Not exactly parking the bus, but tempting them to open up more and allowing space for us to score goals.What's then going to happen is the other teams are going to do the same and the games will become what the early Chelsea-Liverpool Champions League games. I don't think Roman wanted that 'shit on a stick' football back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 don't get the fuzz, we've played actually not bad, I hold him in regret for bad strikers... Tomo and hjperdeath 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 That's the problem, the term 'not bad' is not good enough for the sheer amount of talent fielded last night.Our ball retention is a complete joke, if all else fails hit it long to Eto'o that should do it. Jose's after match comments couldn't of been any more wide of the mark, we weren't excellent attacking, we weren't playing well. It was a display that showed lack of commitment, lack of cutting edge again and showed all our deficiencies in large amounts once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Not exactly parking the bus, but tempting them to open up more and allowing space for us to score goals.Allowing space....then what ? I know, Torres, BA or Eto´o will miss the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 What's then going to happen is the other teams are going to do the same and the games will become what the early Chelsea-Liverpool Champions League games. I don't think Roman wanted that 'shit on a stick' football back.Thats a big "what if"Its not like were going to play like in the champs league final in every match, that wasnt counter attacking, that was just all out defensive.We'll just play more in the wings instead of coming through the middle at all. We'll stretch the play more, cross more, play faster and create more chances as a result. Instead of waiting for the perfect through ball through the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Allowing space....then what ? I know, Torres, BA or Eto´o will miss the net.Eto yesterday was just Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I get rotating and I'm all for it but changing the attacking midfield every fucking game is far from ideal. How does he expect the players to build any chemistry and understand where to move, when to pass etc when they don't even have to chance to gel together? It's just like last year when Benitez was around and changing our back-4 every single game. Strike and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I get rotating and I'm all for it but changing the attacking midfield every fucking game is far from ideal. How does he expect the players to build any chemistry and understand where to move, when to pass etc when they don't even have to chance to gel together? It's just like last year when Benitez was around and changing our back-4 every single game.I said this a long time ago that team chemistry is more important than giving everybody game time. Now the attackers just plays like they met themselves for the first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Thats a big "what if"Its not like were going to play like in the champs league final in every match, that wasnt counter attacking, that was just all out defensive.We'll just play more in the wings instead of coming through the middle at all. We'll stretch the play more, cross more, play faster and create more chances as a result. Instead of waiting for the perfect through ball through the middleExcuse me, just in case you care to explain. How do you propose to play faster, cross more & create more chances, then ?Have you not watched the team, lately ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The problem there is that a lot players are not performing to a consistent level thus he changes it, can't blame him for that especially if you have people like Willian waiting around for a chance etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Excuse me, just in case you care to explain. How do you propose to play faster, cross more & create more chances, then ?Have you not watched the team, lately ?The team have been holding baseless possession, trying to play like barca and find the perfect through pass, that is not a mourinho system. Without mata it looks worse.So scrap that, dribble at the flanks more and get crosses in and get forward fast on the counter. Only speed can open up a defense.Unless there is a xavi or yaya toure for our pivot to give perfect through passes through the middle, slow possession between John terry and cahill is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The team have been holding baseless possession, trying to play like barca and find the perfect through pass, that is not a mourinho system. Without mata it looks worse.So scrap that, dribble at the flanks more and get crosses in and get forward fast on the counter. Only speed can open up a defense.Unless there is a xavi or yaya toure for our pivot to give perfect through passes through the middle, slow possession between John terry and cahill is useless.I am a bit puzzled by your claim here. Trying to play like Barca......NOT JOSE´S SYSTEM ? May I ask, is he not Chelsea´s coach for 6 months or is he there only physically ? Does he not see it or what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 That's the problem, the term 'not bad' is not good enough for the sheer amount of talent fielded last night.Our ball retention is a complete joke, if all else fails hit it long to Eto'o that should do it. Jose's after match comments couldn't of been any more wide of the mark, we weren't excellent attacking, we weren't playing well. It was a display that showed lack of commitment, lack of cutting edge again and showed all our deficiencies in large amounts once again.sorry can't agree, let me put this straight my not bad was actually ment like, we should've won this till the 80th min we were completely dominant in midfield and pressing well, but our striking department and our offensive-players were a disgrace, willian taken aside... he was again very good hjperdeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBH 283 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 That's for the minimal homegrown quota Maybe.. but why not promote young player to fill this quota, instead of giving such a big contract.. they will not be happy to be on 10,000 weekly like the young player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBH 283 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 One thing we should remember... usually, this time, last 3, 4, 5 years, we are on the winless 8 match run.. at least with Mourinho, it is not so bad, it is win one, lose one, win one, lose one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'd like to see us return to the dominating, speedy system of yesteryear and I think we have players that it suits. We're just lacking the midfield to do it.I also think that system is completely wrong for Mata, but perfect for players like Hazard, Schurrle, Willian and Oscar.I'd like us to also invest in defenders who are stoppers and just get the ball to the next level....and then we need that next level. Rami can drive the ball out of defence with pace and so could Guarin potentially. If you look at our academy, we have players who are powerful and speedy so why not just make that our ethos? We seem perfectly set up to play that style effectively for the next decade. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Oh boy, styles, young players, buy new players....on & on.Somehow, most of us refuse to admit that the squad is not playing well enough to win games, consistently. How much longer are we going to wait to see this team of well paid players perform well, to be pleased to watch them play gradely football ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I think what has become apparent is we wont be getting instant success under Jose this time.Well i say that, we might get instant success in terms of trophies, mainly because this season has a best of the bad bunch air about it, and that team could well turn out to be us, but playing in the dominant way we did under Jose last time will take a bit off time this time round.Remember how bad Liverpool were under Rodgers this time last year? they were in the bottom half toe to toe with Norwich, now they are the in form team in the country, Mancini had an average year in 10/11 in build up to his title season in 11/12. We are playing like shit but still getting results and hanging in there, ask United fans, that formula usually ends well.If the Guarin and Zouma rumours are true, that also shows that Jose has atleast identified the problem, and is trying to fix it, it's easy to say well he could have done that in the summer, but Mourinho was been manager off Real Madrid during our 3 years of struggles, so he didn't live with the problem week in, week out like we have. Now he has had 6 months off it, he is trying to sort it out.We always ask Roman to be patient, yet we can't think past the middle of the next week, it's well within our capabilities to grind out 7-9 points in the next 3 games then go into January with new players. If we win at The Emirates we will either be top or joint top having played average on the most part, that is not to be sniffed at. Changing manager's will just mean the same problem starts again, i will make a proper judgement when we get under way next campaign, after Jose has had 3 transfer window's and a whole season to sort thing's out. We have all the foundation's to become a top team again, as soon as the balance issue is sorted, we will be fine. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Mourihino is the one that tells them to protect a 1-0 lead! not the players! with the players we have we should be out to go score 3-4 a game! like citySTOP SAYING BULLSHIT!It's annoying as heck!Are you deaf? The guy has been complaining about the same thing for a month!!!!!! That the team has a chance to score 2, 3, 4 goals and doesn't and he DOESN'T like it.20th.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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