The Mourinho Thread

[NishC300 1,865]

No, don't think they did. And even if they were talking about squad strength, the 2010/11 season was still the worst. Players became stagnated. Team's form dipped. Nothing of quality came out then. And not to mention, we allowed so many experienced players like Ballack, Cole, Belletti, Deco, Carvalho to leave and ended up only replacing them with only Ramires and Benayoun that summer.

As for the Europa League, yes it's not the biggest of trophies, it's definitely not where we should be in/at but it's still a European trophy regardless. We got into the competition, we won it and we made history in the process. It's still not a success or achievement to be played down. And think we are more ashamed of becoming the 1st Champions League winner to exit the group stage as opposed to getting into the Europa League.

That's the same thing.

[Jase 43,479]

That's the same thing.

Depends on which perspective you want to look from. The thought of being the 1st European Champions to exit from the group stage is downright more embarrassing than the idea of being playing in the Europa League.

[Liquidator 5,176]

Crystal Palace have, by far, the best atmosphere in England at the moment, in my opinion. There's a group of boys with drums, flags and scarfs singing and jumping during the games. That's how you support your team!

They really don't. I've seen us play Palace at Selhurst Park twice and both times their fans were absolutely woeful. They only have a small part of the ground that actually sings and bring out drums, tifos etc. for televised games.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

I think we protect Mourinho too much sometimes I have a feeling his been let of with some poor decisions of late for example that line up at Utd. Also the way he treats young players I am not a fan at all

[Tomo 21,733]

I think we protect Mourinho too much sometimes I have a feeling his been let of with some poor decisions of late for example that line up at Utd. Also the way he treats young players I am not a fan at all

like who?

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

like who?

Lukaku for example he is better than Ba but he loaned him out, Ozil remember when he kept on playing him in the wing when it was obvious his best position was in the middle, Van Ginkel he promised him game time but a 35year old Lampard gets to start 4 straight matches even when he clearly is the one fucking up in the mid

[Tomo 21,733]

Lukaku for example he is better than Ba but he loaned him out, Ozil remember when he kept on playing him in the wing when it was obvious his best position was in the middle, Van Ginkel he promised him game time but a 35year old Lampard gets to start 4 straight matches even when he clearly is the one fucking up in the mid

I have given my thoughts on the Lukaku loan in his thread, so i won't repeat myself here. Many managers in the past play players out of position (Fergie on Kagawa a quick example in my head, you can't single out Jose for that) and Van Ginkel has just joined a new country at a young age, Ronaldo was often an unused sub in his first season at United, same for RVP at Arsenal.

[NishC300 1,865]

The amount of criticism Mourinho receives for being 'negative' is shocking. It's almost as though he is Helenio Herrera and invented the catenaccio. Mourinho likes to have a balance. He realises what you should do and when you should do it. The reason we killed off the game in the 2nd half vs Hull was because Mourinho realised that Hull were never going to win the game, and with the game against Villa in mind, he understood there was no point in playing at the same pace we were earlier in the game. He is an astute manager. The reason he played defensive, counter attacking against Man United (I already explained here: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/16692-he-got-it-right-last-night/). Against Bayern we had to play defensive. It's common sense. We were reduced to 10 men vs the best side in the world yet we still carried a threat on the counter.

I see no reason to crticise Mourinho for not 'entertaining' you. It would have been interesting see how entertained you would be if were thumped vs Bayern.

If you do not find the football exciting, then don't worry. I always find celebrating your side winning a trophy more entertaining than anything.

but as I said calling Mourinho 'negative' is incorrect, he just likes balance and is an astute manager.

Depends on which perspective you want to look from. The thought of being the 1st European Champions to exit from the group stage is downright more embarrassing than the idea of being playing in the Europa League.

Yea but I was talking from a more technical perspective since what I meant was going to Europa League happened as a result of becoming the 1st Champions who were KOed in the group stages. But regarding the 10/11 season, we did launch a better title challenge than we did in any of the previous seasons. If we had won that game at OT, we would have been top of the table. So 10/11 wasn't that bad.

It bothers me slightly when he complains like he did yesterday (because I think he didn't have a point and for some - not me - he may sound like a sore loser), but it's a way to put pressure on referees for upcoming matches.

No one in UEFA wants someone to imply conspiracies against teams, especially not someone as big as José Mourinho. So they might be more careful next time.

Please watch this documentary on Mourinho by ITV. It came out on Christmas 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircJqZkmWqQ

If Mourinho does this to pressurise UEFA................................. then obviously he has failed.

Since he has never received the benefits of it.

[bushman 2,043]

The amount of criticism Mourinho receives for being 'negative' is shocking. It's almost as though he is Helenio Herrera and invented the catenaccio. Mourinho likes to have a balance. He realises what you should do and when you should do it. The reason we killed off the game in the 2nd half vs Hull was because Mourinho realised that Hull were never going to win the game, and with the game against Villa in mind, he understood there was no point in playing at the same pace we were earlier in the game. He is an astute manager. The reason he played defensive, counter attacking against Man United (I already explained here: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/16692-he-got-it-right-last-night/). Against Bayern we had to play defensive. It's common sense. We were reduced to 10 men vs the best side in the world yet we still carried a threat on the counter.

I see no reason to crticise Mourinho for not 'entertaining' you. It would have been interesting see how entertained you would be if were thumped vs Bayern.

If you do not find the football exciting, then don't worry. I always find celebrating your side winning a trophy more entertaining than anything.

but as I said calling Mourinho 'negative' is incorrect, he just likes balance and is an astute manager.

Yea but I was talking from a more technical perspective since what I meant was going to Europa League happened as a result of becoming the 1st Champions who were KOed in the group stages. But regarding the 10/11 season, we did launch a better title challenge than we did in any of the previous seasons. If we had won that game at OT, we would have been top of the table. So 10/11 wasn't that bad.

Please watch this documentary on Mourinho by ITV. It came out on Christmas 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircJqZkmWqQ

If Mourinho does this to pressurise UEFA................................. then obviously he has failed.

Since he has never received the benefits of it.

Excuse me here, but should we carry Jose on pedestal only even though he fucked up in this year´s transfer market ?

Jose is not some God or is he to you ?

I want my Chelsea to win, play an offensive football & see you talented players being brought in.

If you want Jose´s 0 games just for the sake of winning points, then I am sorry but he can stick those draws up his butt.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

@bushman, José fucked up this summer ?

People will never value what they have until its gone ! You were one of the happiest man in the world when he was sacked I guess.

[NishC300 1,865]

Excuse me here, but should we carry Jose on pedestal only even though he fucked up in this year´s transfer market ?

Jose is not some God or is he to you ?

I want my Chelsea to win, play an offensive football & see you talented players being brought in.

If you want Jose´s 0 games just for the sake of winning points, then I am sorry but he can stick those draws up his butt.

Fucking up in transfer market?

[Roquila 1,335]

What's up with the sudden hate on Jose? I think we have too many scousers here who wants a fat spanish waiter at the dugout.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Not that related but i'm laughing my ass off.

THIS MADE MY DAY ! Absolutely brilliant !

[NishC300 1,865]

What's up with the sudden hate on Jose? I think we have too many scousers here who wants a fat spanish waiter at the dugout.

Even the scousers want Mourinho hahaha! I remember hearing a scouser on talksport saying that they could get Mourinho LOL

It's not scousers, just people failing to appreciate what a wonderful manager we have.

(Jose's worth having for just Press Conferences and interviews!)

[Jase 43,479]

Yea but I was talking from a more technical perspective since what I meant was going to Europa League happened as a result of becoming the 1st Champions who were KOed in the group stages. But regarding the 10/11 season, we did launch a better title challenge than we did in any of the previous seasons. If we had won that game at OT, we would have been top of the table. So 10/11 wasn't that bad.

The title challenge back then in 10/11 season wasn't even there really. Started the season well but then tailed off completely. Yes, we did manage to get back into the title picture but it came too late and was just on the back of run of winning games. We never really look like we are gonna win and so it proved in the pathetic performance at OT. And even had we won there, we would still be behind United on GD IIRC and theirs was much better than ours.

[NishC300 1,865]

The title challenge back then in 10/11 season wasn't even there really. Started the season well but then tailed off completely. Yes, we did manage to get back into the title picture but it came too late and was just on the back of run of winning games. We never really look like we are gonna win and so it proved in the pathetic performance at OT. And even had we won there, we would still be behind United on GD IIRC and theirs was much better than ours.

No our GD was level. If we won that game by 1 goal, our GD would have been 1 above theirs. That's what I remember.

[bushman 2,043]

@bushman, José fucked up this summer ?

People will never value what they have until its gone ! You were one of the happiest man in the world when he was sacked I guess.

Stop posting nonsense. Who made the mess with BA, then ? I did ?

[bushman 2,043]

Fucking up in transfer market?

Who is responsible for BA not being moved out ?