Jase 43,479 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 minute ago, communicate said: Jose works best when his team is the underdog because he like to create " us against the world mentality" - We were second tier team in his first stint here - Madrid kept losing against Barcelona - We were a new team. IMO that mentality is good when you are not winning but after a while you get tired of it. But that's the issue, isn't it? He seems to only really excel when that team is an underdog, a team that no one takes seriously etc. But once he starts to win with them and that team becomes the best, he doesn't know what to do anymore. He doesn't change his approach to managing and still continues to use the same 'tricks', even when they don't work anymore. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 24 minutes ago, Jason said: But that's the issue, isn't it? He seems to only really excel when that team is an underdog, a team that no one takes seriously etc. But once he starts to win with them and that team becomes the best, he doesn't know what to do anymore. He doesn't change his approach to managing and still continues to use the same 'tricks', even when they don't work anymore. I guess you are who you are and he has been a very successful manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, communicate said: I guess you are who you are and he has been a very successful manager. Maybe that is what he will do. Just do 3 years with United and then move on. He probably figured it out that it's not worth it to stay longer then the alloted time frame. Which is good in itself, look at pellegrini, did 3 years and that seemed like a long time. And if he does decide to go for more time, then it will be interesting to see how he adjust. Since as you guys mentioned he can't change his style and that style is only good for short term stints. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 22 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Apart from the fans. The real loyalty of the owners players and coaches is to their bank balance and succumbing to greed. I think JT just proved otherwise last week as he has several time during his career here. But yes, that is the general trend unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I may get some hate for this but still... I think he will be massive success at United and will stay over 3 years there. Why? He has a lot to prove, this is when he thrives. He has to win over the fans (he didn't have to at Chelsea) & members of United board that were against signing him. He will watch his every move so he doesn't offend United players/fans/board/Fergie. He will have the backing of the United players after a lot of them were unhappy with Van Gaal's boring football that doesn't win matches (yes, Mourinho is boring too, but he wins you games, at least). He has to prove to all the doubters/media/pundits that he is still the top manager. One of the greatest managers in the greatest English club - media will suck United's dick and so Mourinho's too (look how they are already manipulating everything in Mourinho's favour - he doesn't play defensive football, he's good with youth, he's respectful to the FA/refs - it's the Chelsea that are bad etc.) He will watch his words, become friends with media and a true gentleman - I can guarantee you he won't be this grumpy bastard he was here. He would rather die than let Guardiola be the better one in Manchester and that's what United's board want too. He will have unlimited transfer budget to build great team (United already has really good team). It was his dream to coach United since Fergie retired - they're good mates too. I think he will be a big success there, winning a lot of titles with United, I would even bet he will win the league next year. I hope not, but I think he will be great for them. Essien19, didi007 and Laylabelle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I don't think he'll win the League immediately. I expect a very open race between the the usual three with new managers. Leicester will drop off eventually and Liverpool-Tottenham will be in the mix. Jose will eventually get his hands on the title, his ability to retain and repeat success over a longer period is a purely subjective matter for all of us. I don't really think anyone can predict whether he has learnt from his mistakes or not, cause the trend got pretty alarming this year, enough for him to notice. If he has, then sky's the limit for him. However putting to much thought into him and his side than they deserve. With a confident side under Conte, we should be aiming for the title next year. Blue Armour and communicate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Melanicus said: I may get some hate for this but still... I think he will be massive success at United and will stay over 3 years there. Why? He has a lot to prove, this is when he thrives. He has to win over the fans (he didn't have to at Chelsea) & members of United board that were against signing him. He will watch his every move so he doesn't offend United players/fans/board/Fergie. He will have the backing of the United players after a lot of them were unhappy with Van Gaal's boring football that doesn't win matches (yes, Mourinho is boring too, but he wins you games, at least). He has to prove to all the doubters/media/pundits that he is still the top manager. One of the greatest managers in the greatest English club - media will suck United's dick and so Mourinho's too (look how they are already manipulating everything in Mourinho's favour - he doesn't play defensive football, he's good with youth, he's respectful to the FA/refs - it's the Chelsea that are bad etc.) He will watch his words, become friends with media and a true gentleman - I can guarantee you he won't be this grumpy bastard he was here. He would rather die than let Guardiola be the better one in Manchester and that's what United's board want too. He will have unlimited transfer budget to build great team (United already has really good team). It was his dream to coach United since Fergie retired - they're good mates too. I think he will be a big success there, winning a lot of titles with United, I would even bet he will win the league next year. I hope not, but I think he will be great for them. I will be surprised if they win it next season but it depends on who they sign. Manu will be a great team again with or without mourinho, since they are the richest team in England Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Melanicus said: I may get some hate for this but still... I think he will be massive success at United and will stay over 3 years there. Why? He has a lot to prove, this is when he thrives. He has to win over the fans (he didn't have to at Chelsea) & members of United board that were against signing him. He will watch his every move so he doesn't offend United players/fans/board/Fergie. He will have the backing of the United players after a lot of them were unhappy with Van Gaal's boring football that doesn't win matches (yes, Mourinho is boring too, but he wins you games, at least). He has to prove to all the doubters/media/pundits that he is still the top manager. One of the greatest managers in the greatest English club - media will suck United's dick and so Mourinho's too (look how they are already manipulating everything in Mourinho's favour - he doesn't play defensive football, he's good with youth, he's respectful to the FA/refs - it's the Chelsea that are bad etc.) He will watch his words, become friends with media and a true gentleman - I can guarantee you he won't be this grumpy bastard he was here. He would rather die than let Guardiola be the better one in Manchester and that's what United's board want too. He will have unlimited transfer budget to build great team (United already has really good team). It was his dream to coach United since Fergie retired - they're good mates too. I think he will be a big success there, winning a lot of titles with United, I would even bet he will win the league next year. I hope not, but I think he will be great for them. Mourinho is past it for me. He used to be good, now he's just a shadow. We have better managers now that have moved on with the times. Klopp, Conte are those emerging managers from those shadow of what Mourinho and pep used to be. Today the best of the best is Simeone. He has been able to take the positive of Mourinho style without all the negative the brings his character. Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 56 minutes ago, Fernando said: Mourinho is past it for me. He used to be good, now he's just a shadow. We have better managers now that have moved on with the times. Klopp, Conte are those emerging managers from those shadow of what Mourinho and pep used to be. Today the best of the best is Simeone. He has been able to take the positive of Mourinho style without all the negative the brings his character. Klopp and Simeone are certified loons. Are they more succesful than Guadiola or Mourinho over last couple of years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Chelsea continue on selling mourinho merchandise http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/29/chelsea-continue-to-sell-special-one-merchandise-after-jose-mour/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 55 minutes ago, the wes said: Chelsea continue on selling mourinho merchandise http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/29/chelsea-continue-to-sell-special-one-merchandise-after-jose-mour/ The fact is Jose will always be a huge name and we will always get a lot of money from his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 5 hours ago, Tautvix said: The fact is Jose will always be a huge name and we will always get a lot of money from his name. I thank him for what he did for the club but I have lost a lot of respect for him for joining utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I thank him for what he did for the club but I have lost a lot of respect him for joining utd Why? Fans are the most selfish people ever. I've seen people call him a cunt, past it, a shit manager, etc. And he's supposed to leave England because some fans will be mad? Jesus. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki-Liki 405 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 3 hours ago, the wes said: Chelsea continue on selling mourinho merchandise http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/29/chelsea-continue-to-sell-special-one-merchandise-after-jose-mour/ Jesus, why would anyone buy this? 100 pounds for a picture book? What a ripoff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 3 hours ago, iseah100 said: Why? Fans are the most selfish people ever. I've seen people call him a cunt, past it, a shit manager, etc. And he's supposed to leave England because some fans will be mad? Jesus. Were I come from when u join a rival club is a bad thing I do thank him for what did for the club xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 20 hours ago, the wes said: Were I come from when u join a rival club is a bad thing I do thank him for what did for the club But I don't understand. Why Chelsea fans so mad. You should know what Mourinho is all about. He was all about Barcelona before he left. And then look, he end up at Real. He was all about Chelsea before he left. And then look, he end up at United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Dunno what ppl expect him to do? Take a Job in China albeit he is pretty young for a manager? He can do what ever he wants at Utd now after he left. Thanks for the fisch and goodbye... whish him all the worst because he is an opponent to us.... I don't care what he does with yernited.... main priority is to get chels back to champions league... after this season europe at all... imho... didn't follow him closly but didn't see him do anything disrespectful towards chelsea or theyr fans... nachikethas and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Fernando said: But I don't understand. Why Chelsea fans so mad. You should know what Mourinho is all about. He was all about Barcelona before he left. And then look, he end up at Real. He was all about Chelsea before he left. And then look, he end up at United. Let's keep perspective, relatively few Chelsea fans have a problem with Jose's move. The vast majority of us love the man and respect his right to do what he thinks best for himself. Like me, I suspect most wish he hadn't joined United, but only because it strengthens them and because we will now be in the very strange position of wanting a Mourinho team to do badly week after week. That will be a new, and a hard, experience. Personally I'll be chanting his name at the top of my voice when he turns up at The Bridge next season. No matter what impression some posters here might give, so too will be almost everyone else in the stadium on that day. When the expression Chelsea fans is used that includes me and hundreds of thousand, perhaps millions, of people like me. I am not in the least bit angry with TSO and I expect time will prove that almost all Blues' fans are with me. stroey, Blue_Fox_, Fulham Broadway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Fernando said: But I don't understand. Why Chelsea fans so mad. You should know what Mourinho is all about. He was all about Barcelona before he left. And then look, he end up at Real. He was all about Chelsea before he left. And then look, he end up at United. To be fair, he was never loved at Barcelona, was he? Their fans merely regarded him as 'The Translator' and neither side took to each other. It's different case altogether with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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