The Mourinho Thread

[WNDS 502]

Although the decision had to be made, it makes no sense that we let him prepare the players for 1 1/2 days for the Saturday game and then proceed to sack him. Don't even know who's doing what now ahead of the weekend.

I would suspect that the delay was due to our need to have everything relating to his short-term replacement confirmed prior to parting ways with Mourinho himself.

[Ossie the King 634]

Although the decision had to be made, it makes no sense that we let him prepare the players for 1 1/2 days for the Saturday game and then proceed to sack him. Don't even know who's doing what now ahead of the weekend.

I don't know if anyone does. Maybe we'll get a manager in who wants to play Papy Djilobodgi. That would be a treat.

Or maybe we'll sign some world-class players in January, rather than doing the business like most clubs do in the summer.

I don't know if people talking about player power have a point or not, but whether intentionally or not they did get Jose sacked to some degree. Matic's form has been nowhere near where it was. Hazard got off to one of his 'late starts' (as if saying it happens every year makes it right and has nothing to do with him always looking overweight in August). Costa completely went off the boil. JT finally seems to be showing his age and wasn't properly replaced.

Just so much going wrong and I don't think Jose should take all of the blame.

[Special Juan 28,868]

We also need a clearout of players at the end of this season. I'd like to see the following move on.

• Ivanovic
• Fabregas
• Oscar
• Mikel
• Ramires

I'm not sure what Terry's role is in all this but in time things may surface and he may need to go as well. Also I think Costa is still one of the best strikers around and deserves another chance.

This. Massive evaluation needs to start now ahead of the summer, we are sitting on a lot of fucking deadwood but also players that would fetch good money. No harmonies just get rid, collect the cash and go and massively improve the team and squad and get us back to an attacking threat and a club that others fear playing.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

And it's mostly the players fault, who have decided game after game not to turn up, apart from Willian.

[Ossie the King 634]

First, welcome to the site.

Great post and i absolutely agree on all points. I understand why Jose got the sack, but I'm still disappointed. He won us the league just 6 months ago. Now he's gone, again.

At a certain point you have to take focus off the manager and look at the players. Cesc, Costa, and Matic's have all dipped dramatically. This is not Jose's fault.

City bought Sterling and Kdb this past transfer window be bought Papay, Hector and Rahman. We have money to spend, but refuse to. Absolutely ridiculous. Jose is gone, I accept that, but this was not all his fault just as the title was not ALL because of him.

Cheers mate. Honestly I've been reading this thread for a while and it became a bit of an echo chamber of about 6 people slagging him off so at least you'll get a few fresh voices saying new things over the next few days.

On the one hand the board have done a tremendous job over the last few years and I'm tremendously excited about the new stadium. But this summer was a major failure. We sold a great goalkeeper to a major rival against the manager's wishes. We signed a player he clearly didn't yearn for whilst making an absolute pig's ear of the John Stones deal (seriously, whoever 'masterminded' that deal did just about everything wrong).

For every one of Jose's mistakes made after the season kicked off, the board made at least the same amount in the summer. Now they've managed to sack our best manager of all time again and pissed off a lot of Chelsea supporters, some of whom they need to keep very onside in the next 12 months. Utter shambles.

[the wes 7,212]

If we bring Simeone keep Costa. If not, get rid of him.

when Costa wants to play hes a good player instead of his childish behavior if simeone gets the job hope he brings koke and griezmman with him

[Jase 43,479]

Who should our next permanent manager?

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/20543-who-will-be-the-next-chelsea-manager/page-6

Get your votes in!

[chrismada9 1,948]

I'll leave this here...

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Does this mean Baba Rahman, Kenedy, RLC will be given real chances? And does this further mean, no more inverted Fullbacks, and no more Ivan? A greater effort to playing better football? And new ideas on how to approach matches, with different formations/tactics?

Let's not get it twisted, we were (and still are) in free-fucking-fall. We were beat resoundingly by the likes of Crystal Palace, Everton, Bournemouth, Stoke (in the league), Southampton, and played off the fucking park by Man City. None of our loses were competitive in the slightest. We weren't losing these games with 10 shots on target, horrendous refereeing, or any other JM type excuse. We were thoroughly out played for each and every single one of our loses.

We're in the middle of December. This team were not on the cusp of turning things around any time soon. He was given all the time in the world to turn this horror show around, and he simply hasn't. It's that simple. Our leading goal scorer was Own Goals. Oscar/Cesc/Hazard/Costa all looked like strangers out there month after month, with no direction on how formulate cohesive attacks. Our defense, the one aspect JM hangs his hat on, are in shambles. Every CB combination has failed, Ivan is an undisputed starter, and the team continues to lose the midfield battle week after week.

There was no light at the end of the tunnel. I simply won't entertain any revisionist history 6-12 months from now, things are dire man. We're one freaking point above the relegation zone.

Having said all that, it's still a shame it didn't work out. You can tell Roman wanted to achieve some sense of stability. He was damned if he fired JM in October and damned now that he's waited this long to pull the trigger. Some may say Roman and his minions should have better foresight and all that jazz, but that's a discussion for another day.

JM was telling us everything we wanted to hear in his first season, everything. But the moment shit hit the fan, he simply retreated back to his old tricks.

It simply HAD to be done.

Still like the guy though. Crazy innit?

[iseah100 5,612]

Cheers mate. Honestly I've been reading this thread for a while and it became a bit of an echo chamber of about 6 people slagging him off so at least you'll get a few fresh voices saying new things over the next few days.

On the one hand the board have done a tremendous job over the last few years and I'm tremendously excited about the new stadium. But this summer was a major failure. We sold a great goalkeeper to a major rival against the manager's wishes. We signed a player he clearly didn't yearn for whilst making an absolute pig's ear of the John Stones deal (seriously, whoever 'masterminded' that deal did just about everything wrong).

For every one of Jose's mistakes made after the season kicked off, the board made at least the same amount in the summer. Now they've managed to sack our best manager of all time again and pissed off a lot of Chelsea supporters, some of whom they need to keep very onside in the next 12 months. Utter shambles.

Nice to hear. Fresh voices are always nice.

The board really didn't do that great a jon though tbh. The only really good bit of business was Zouma and Azpi. Cesc went cheap cause Barca didn't need him, Costa had a release clause and Matic was unproven. We've been bargain hunters and a selling club lately and it has clearly hurt us. Don't get me started on the John Stones deal. Absolutely awful. This will alienate a lot of fans from the board, Roman better not mess up or he'll have a mess on his hands.

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

Rest of the season is gonna be so shit. If the player do improve their performance then I won't be able to forgive them.

[quickpassnmove 924]

merry christmas to all. good riddance.

let's see some football played.

[Kostas 1,468]

Fucks sake Chelsea, a man can't take a 4 year hiatus without the club imploding..

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Mourinho's philosophy has always struck me as:

"I've already shown you guys how to stop "x" team from hurting us. Go out and beat "x" team. After all, we have more quality than they do and that eventually will tell"

It was instructive to listen to Mourinho wax lyrical about all the preparation he had done to ensure our players knew about all the means Leicester could score and win, as he's done several times this season.

But was what alarming about Chelsea was not Leicester's goals against us, but how clueless we looked in their final 3rd till they scored! Mourinho hardly ever speaks about that side, aside from some basic stuff here and there. "I told him to make some movement" How can players make movements when there is no space? Or when no one is attacking space? Or when the passing is so slow and ponderous? That's training ground stuff and we have to ask why we hardly ever saw it in almost 3 years.

[simon_me 38]

Big mistake. He won't come back again, and we still don't trust any of our managers.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Mourinho's philosophy has always struck me as:

"I've already shown you guys how to stop "x" team from hurting us. Go out and beat "x" team. After all, we have more quality than they do and that eventually will tell"

It was instructive to listen to Mourinho wax lyrical about all the preparation he had done to ensure our players knew about all the means Leicester could score and win, as he's done several times this season.

But was what alarming about Chelsea was not Leicester's goals against us, but how clueless we looked in their final 3rd till they scored! Mourinho hardly ever speaks about that side, aside from some basic stuff here and there. "I told him to make some movement" How can players make movements when there is no space? Or when no one is attacking space? Or when the passing is so slow and ponderous? That's training ground stuff and we have to ask why we hardly ever saw it in almost 3 years.

and yet Steve Holland said they worked hard in training on movement in attack.

Another betrayal by players perhaps?

[Chelsea4 1,521]

THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT MEMORIES-JOSE MOURINHO ONE OF US.

[Ossie the King 634]

and yet Steve Holland said they worked hard in training on movement in attack.

Another betrayal by players perhaps?

And that movement is evident in a lot of play....except for Costa. I have no idea what went wrong with him but his movement has been atrocious in every regard this season.

I get that some people want to paint Jose as being pragmatic to the point of not wanting to score goals, but I don't think anyone can have his level of success without knowing how to do things at both ends of the pitch.

Maybe he 'closed us down' too early last season so we coasted to the title (certainly holds some merit) but we simply didn't get going this season and a lot of that has to do with us not improving the squad in the summer. No team can stand still off the pitch and expect to get better on it.

The club stood still in the summer and Jose never had the tools necessary to mount a title defence. It shouldn't have gotten this bad though.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Fucks sake Chelsea, a man can't take a 4 year hiatus without the club imploding..

Hahaha well it had to be something enormous to bring you back here.

[Jase 43,479]