didierforever 7,349 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 1. we are talking about pre match pressers here.......as I was referring to. No other ones2. The pre match ones are split into 2 sessions. One for the general public, fans etc can get a listen to and hear the latest on players, team news and other relevant info ( well thats what it should be), and then cameras are turned off for the 2nd session with newspapers3. If you dont like pre match pressers...dont watch them and/or comment on them...simpleswhen people try to say things like "oh, look at that pre-match. wow!! what a legend" and stuff of that nature when the team's performance on the pitch does not show anything what the manager says in the pre-match, then its hard to ignore such brilliant comments. also, see what i wrote to muzchap. its about his PCs which is press-conference. be it pre or post. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 when people try to say things like "oh, look at that pre-match. wow!! what a legend" and stuff of that nature when the team's performance on the pitch does not show anything what the manager says in the pre-match, then its hard to ignore such brilliant comments. also, see what i wrote to muzchap. its about his PCs which is press-conference. be it pre or post. but whenever have I said wow...what a legend blah blah.I dont care what ou said about his after match nterviews ( different from a pc), you pulled me up about prematch ones originally and thats what i am talking about.You might have noticed ( but somehow I doubt it whilst your fingers are a blur on the keyboard) that the reason I like certain pre match pressers are because they are just about the team and not much else,but you have failed to acknowledge that thinking that I love all pressers and what Mourinho has to say as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 but whenever have I said wow...what a legend blah blah.I dont care what ou said about his after match nterviews ( different from a pc), you pulled me up about prematch ones originally and thats what i am talking about.You might have noticed ( but somehow I doubt it whilst your fingers are a blur on the keyboard) that the reason I like certain pre match pressers are because they are just about the team and not much else,but you have failed to acknowledge that thinking that I love all pressers and what Mourinho has to say as a whole.oh why are you taking it personally. it was not about you but some people who keep harping on about the jose and "what he said" (just like you said it was not about me).but thats the point. the PCs (both post and pre since both are actually PCs), mean NOTHING. the only thing that does mean is the performance and tactics on the pitch. 2 areas where jose has failed massively this season. tactics - rubbish, getting performances out of players - hopeless. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 oh why are you taking it personally. it was not about you but some people who keep harping on about the jose and "what he said" (just like you said it was not about me).but thats the point. the PCs (both post and pre since both are actually PCs), mean NOTHING. the only thing that does mean is the performance and tactics on the pitch. 2 areas where jose has failed massively this season. tactics - rubbish, getting performances out of players - hopeless.suit yourself...but a pre match presser is completely different to an after match interviewI happen to like the prematch ones where I hear first hand about team news and relevant team matters. So as you are wrong about what I said..AGAIN....we will leave it at that before you make your fingers bleed banging away at that keyboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 suit yourself...but a pre match presser is completely different to an after match interviewI happen to like the prematch ones where I hear first hand about team news and relevant team matters.So as you are wrong about what I said..AGAIN....we will leave it at that before you make your fingers bleed banging away at that keyboardi was wrong about you harping about jose's pre-match PC before the pool game? cos thats the only thing i said about u in that post. so read before you right.as for team news - the last time jose gave away the team news in a pre-match PC would have been, well, i dont know when. the only thing he does say about are injuries which 99% of us are already aware of. so welll.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 i was wrong about you harping about jose's pre-match PC before the pool game? cos thats the only thing i said about u in that post. so read before you right.as for team news - the last time jose gave away the team news in a pre-match PC would have been, well, i dont know when. the only thing he does say about are injuries which 99% of us are already aware of. so welll....of course....99% of you knew that 100% Costa was fit for Liverpool....or Falcao (not that it matters) is injured before the PC's.Team news is not always about selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 of course....99% of you knew that 100% Costa was fit for Liverpool....or Falcao (not that it matters) is injured before the PC's.Team news is not always about selection.most of us on here knew that costa was going to start. really did not to watch jose to specify that. the falcao injury would have been out in the media a day or 2 later. still dont get your point.team news is never about the selection cos with jose, its more or less always the same selection, the same players irrespective of form and circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 most of us on here knew that costa was going to start. really did not to watch jose to specify that. the falcao injury would have been out in the media a day or 2 later. still dont get your point.team news is never about the selection cos with jose, its more or less always the same selection, the same players irrespective of form and circumstances. you dont get my point because you misquoted and misunderstood me from the very beginning...i.e. last week.The fact that Mourinho last week actually spoke about Costa and saying he needed fitness test following morning proves you were wrong about knowing 100% he would start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 you dont get my point because you misquoted and misunderstood me from the very beginning...i.e. last week.The fact that Mourinho last week actually spoke about Costa and saying he needed fitness test following morning proves you were wrong about knowing 100% he would start.and yet he did start.and that is the point that i am making. the PC is meaningless. what jose says and what jose does are 2 different things.did not matter if costa was 50% fit or 100% fit, he was starting against pool. that is jose's mentality that most of us fans already understand. how are u not understanding this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 and yet he did start.and that is the point that i am making. the PC is meaningless. what jose says and what jose does are 2 different things.did not matter if costa was 50% fit or 100% fit, he was starting against pool. that is jose's mentality that most of us fans already understand. how are u not understanding this? great...falcao is starting tomorrow then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 great...falcao is starting tomorrow then.....wow, you understand jose so well. falcao and costa have the same importance for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 wow, you understand jose so well. falcao and costa have the same importance for you. urm....what has the totally irrelevant statement got to do with me liking pre match pressers when we get news about team matters.No need for you to watch them, as you claim to know it all anyway......so why bother commenting or ridiculing ( yes...thats what you and others have done )those that do like to hear what is said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 urm....what has the totally irrelevant statement got to do with me liking pre match pressers when we get news about team matters.No need for you to watch them, as you claim to know it all anyway......so why bother commenting or ridiculing ( yes...thats what you and others have done )those that do like to hear what is saidwell, knowing costa will start regardless of injury seems to be a similar situation to falcao for someone like you.you decide the relevance of the statement. ridiculing? so telling people that jose's PC means nothing ,which if you see muzchap's reply - he agrees with, is now ridiculing. some people are just so touchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 It's his off the pitch stuff that's gonna get him sacked not his performances. I think Roman can tolerate a slump for a season considering Jose track record..but dragging this club into all types of unwanted (non football related) attention is what may entice Roman to decide enough is enough. didierforever, Irakozium257 and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Take with a pinch of salt.1. It's twitter.2. Twitter source is the Sun. Henrique and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Reporter is Rob Beasley (quite reliable?), basically repeated what he said in the summer.the article:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6725445/Jose-Mourinho-told-Chelsea-to-sign-Gareth-Bale-Raheem-Sterling-and-John-Stones.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20151104-_-SunFootballSocial-_-269085493-_-ImageandlinkA close friend revealed: “Jose felt he was being asked to work miracles. “The club thought he didn’t need any new players, that essentially the same squad could dominate again“But he knew differently. He laughed at the idea but not because he found the situation funny — far from it. “He knew he needed a fresh injection of talent, he knew he needed to increase competition for places and depth to his squad. “He knew it was dangerous to stand still and give other sides the opportunity to play catch-up.”Belatedly Chelsea tried to make up for lost time — and they failed. It’s proving an expensive failure, too. And the man who stands to pay the ultimate price for that failure is not Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, not chairman Bruce Buck, not main director Marina Granovskaia. It’s the man who sounded the alarm bells long before a ball was even kicked. Funny old game, hey? Unless your name is Mourinho. iceboy, Fulham Broadway and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Still you would think that a guy who won 8 league titles and two champions League trophies over 15 years would've seen that coming rather than the theory that says the guy is just "past it". nullabletype 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Fuck so much conflicting information I do not know what to believe anymore. The media love to fuck with our club which is the only truth out of all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'd like to actually know what's going on behind the scenes first to decide on whether Jose should go or not. If this is all down to him, treating players poorly, having an attitude towards them, instructing them to sit back against inferior opposition which is stopping us from performing and going for it then i'd be happy for someone else to take charge and let the players express themselves confidently with more trust. If this is all down to the players, then no i don't want him to go and i'd like a mass clear out, including Hazard and Fabregas as they have been shit this season. It doesn't matter what a manager says, if the players don't perform, how can you win games of football? You can't. I love the man, i want him to stay but seriously.... what the fuck is going on here? I don't think anyone knows but i'd love him to be the one to turn it around. Top 4 is over for us, we have no chance of that so there will be no Champions League football next season for the first time in over a decade. That will give him a chance to offload the ego's and start rebuilding again. Just depends if he will be the one to rebuild it or not, i sincerely hope he does. I believe the players are against him from the moment against Swansea when the doctors went onto the pitch with good reason, then to be undermined and publicly humiliated. Since then, the players have been awful and he's been full of excuses moaning at referees and other things. there is no desire any more for most of these players to get results. Hazard has been dropped, JT has been dropped, Costa isn't doing anything apart from being a petulant bully and there are players like Ramires, Remy and Loftus Cheek that should be playing. He's got a lot of work to do but i have faith he'll sort it. I wouldn't cry if he was sacked though. I support Chelsea, not Mourinho. I want to see a happy Chelsea camp, not this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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