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So everybody thinks we'll be ok apart from some members on a forum

Hmm

All superficial to me because like I said if by December we have not improved his a goner.

No way he stays here after December and we are stuck in a relation battle.

But we should be good and Mourinho good enough to recover. If we can't recover is because he really lost the dressing room and the players are not responding.

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Yes, my bad for jumping the gun. I'm not used to English media being so cynical, should have known better.

Guardian has edited that article I believe. It now only has the quotes of Mourinho thanking Roman and responding to Capello's comments.

The same story over on Daily Telegraph though... :doh:

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“What’s going on? I do not know. The results with Chelsea at the moment have been really bad. I cannot hide that reality, and I don’t want to. And I struggle to find an explanation."

Good to know he still doesn't know what's going on. Maybe because he is incapable of seeing faults in himself? Not encouraging.

Mourinho was then asked his opinion of the Leicester City manager, Claudio Ranieri, who he succeeded at Stamford Bridge in 2004.

“He has lived for five years in England and still has trouble saying good morning and good afternoon. He is almost 70 [Ranieri is 63], and he has won a Super Cup and another small cup. He’s too old to change mentality.”

What the actual fuck? Embarrassing.

And this is the man people want as our manager in the long term. SMH.

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It was Claudio who started this debate. Jose gave his answer. They both wrong.

Anyway, they got over it.

Ranieri: "When I came back, Mourinho was the first one to send me a message saying ‘welcome back’. We clashed in Italy but that was good for everybody. When I was in Inter every week he sent me a message, he’s a nice boy".

Jose is turning enemies into friends. Allardyce, Ancelotti, Ranieri. After he came back in 2013 even Wenger was a friend to him who was going to teach him how to be in one club for many years. That didn't last long though. But if you're nice to someone you can appease them and forget about old fights.

You can as well turn friend into enemy like with Pep Guardiola. It's all up to him.

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The owners at Juventus are hardly ruthless and demanding compared to who Ancelotti had worked for at AC Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real Madrid.

They are actually. Just check out how frequently they used to change managers before Conte. I agree that he has not been successful in CL, but Morata who joined to Juve after Conte left made a huge difference. In CL he scored consecutively in five or six matches now. When he doesn't play Juve struggles in the league too. I did not say he is the perfect coach btw.. Among the options we have he is the best in my opinion.

Carlo as football director, Conte as coach would be the perfect combination actually.

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They are actually. Just check out how frequently they used to change managers before Conte. I agree that he has not been successful in CL, but Morata who joined to Juve after Conte left made a huge difference. In CL he scored consecutively in five or six matches now. When he doesn't play Juve struggles in the league too. I did not say he is the perfect coach btw.. Among the options we have he is the best in my opinion.

Carlo as football director, Conte as coach would be the perfect combination actually.

Only because they were absolutely shit before Conte, I remember 5 years ago when they lost to Fulham in the Europe league or something. If Juve consistently finish in top 2 I doubt the manager would get the sack and Ancelotti would most likely be able to do that with Juve's current squad or any half decent manager will be able to actually. Also I doubt Carlo will ever comeback here, didn't he said in his book that he was ruthlessly sacked over the phone by Roman after the Everton game and promised if he was to return to a previous club one day it will be Milan.

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If Juve consistently finish in top 2 I doubt the manager would get the sack.

From http://www.theguardian.com/football/2001/jun/18/europeanfootball.sport

Second place is definitely not good enough for Juventus. Sometimes first place doesn't even cut it.

Juve announced that they had sacked Carlo Ancelotti at half-time during their 2-1 win over Atalanta on Sunday. Never mind that he had recently signed a two-year extension to his contract. Never mind that it was their 11th game without defeat.

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They are actually. Just check out how frequently they used to change managers before Conte.

Before Conte, Juventus sacked 3 managers in 2 years - Ciro Ferrara, Alberto Zaccheroni and Luigi Delneri - and I think MrBlueGuy has mentioned the reason for that. Otherwise, many before that got at least 2-3 years at the club. Compare to some clubs, they aren't really trigger happy.

I agree that he has not been successful in CL, but Morata who joined to Juve after Conte left made a huge difference. In CL he scored consecutively in five or six matches now. When he doesn't play Juve struggles in the league too.

Morata is a good player and has been on form in the Champions League but to use him as a reason why Juventus struggled under Conte in Europe is clutching at straws. He also had many good players under him - Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Tevez, Marchisio etc - and with the squad he got, he should have done better. And Juventus hardly struggled in the league last season without Morata. It's only more of an issue this season since they let a few of their key players go.

Carlo as football director, Conte as coach would be the perfect combination actually.

That's unlikely to happen in reality. Suspect Ancelotti is keeping one eye on the job at Roma.

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