The Mourinho Thread

[Stingray 9,441]

My bad, I kinda meant to point that post towards the club itself, not Jose I agree, hopefully we will have some official stuff done soon.

Me too, man. We could use a CM that counts in my idea. Let's hope! Some quality depth would be nice

[iseah100 5,612]

Tf was with the high line? Gomis was burning da boyz

[The Skipper 20,609]

The days we used to have players like KDB, Mata, Schurrle on the bench... Gone. Quite sad tbh. I'm not sure I like the direction this team is going.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Slow defenders not letting Mourinho release our attackers forward.

All our defenders are terrible one on one except Azpilicueta. Why should willian come back to help defend against montero?? Why shouldn't terry and cahill handle the pace of gomiz??

Too slow, too slow

When was the last time our defenders had a good match when we didn't park the bus???

Seeing zouma come on for Fabregas in midfield shows our other problem.

Mourinho needs to keep fabregas and hazard motivated, they're still in pre-season mode.

Not buying this. Last season we had quick, proactive defenders in Zouma, Luis and Azpi, which could've allowed us to make a backbone of Luis - Terry - Zouma - Azpi. How often did we actually see this? Rarely if ever.

He's certainly had the options to play a quicker, more proactive back line but he refused to.

[Jase 43,479]

The days we used to have players like KDB, Mata, Schurrle on the bench... Gone. Quite sad tbh. I'm not sure I like the direction this team is going.

When you think about it, it's funny that we had a better squad depth in 2013/14. Our options on the bench are so limited now that it's infuriating, terrifying and depressing. It feels like we're gonna experience the 2010/11 season again, not necessarily in the same manner but similar.

[Barbara 15,149]

The days we used to have players like KDB, Mata, Schurrle on the bench... Gone. Quite sad tbh. I'm not sure I like the direction this team is going.

and all of them without any exception left because they didn't want to continue in the bench... it's hard to balance those things out because quality players don't want to sit down most matches and with the starting XI we have on midfield, that's where they'd most likely be.

We aren't at the same status as Madrid and Barça where players are happy to just be part of the team...

[Jase 43,479]

and all of them without any exception left because they didn't want to continue in the bench... it's hard to balance those things out. Especially if you aren't Barça or Madrid.

...which was caused by Mourinho's management of the squad. He was quick to dismiss them the minute they put in poor performances but he stuck with others even after poor matches. If he had shown similar faith and belief in them, they wouldn't have felt dispirited and wanted to leave the club.

[Barbara 15,149]

...which was caused by Mourinho's management of the squad. He was quick to dismiss them the minute they put in poor performances but he stuck with others even after poor matches. If he had shown similar faith and belief in them, they wouldn't have felt dispirited and wanted to leave the club.

Mata never fit, KdB showed clearly - even with his own words, Mourinho's and his current manager's - he doesn't accept not being a nailed starter, so he wouldn't accept even to sit down some matches. Schurrle could have been a different story and I'm sis biggest fan, but he's been way too inconsistent despite being given plenty of chances to displace anyone from the starting XI. He failed to secure is spot time after time. Mata and Kev may have a point if they complain about chances given (I don't think they have much), but Schurrle definitely doesn't.

[The Chels 2,502]

Not buying this. Last season we had quick, proactive defenders in Zouma, Luis and Azpi, which could've allowed us to make a backbone of Luis - Terry - Zouma - Azpi. How often did we actually see this? Rarely if ever.

I think the QF of the COC against Derby was the only time in 50+ games. Even then Ivanovic came on (for the injured Zouma) and proceeded to give a goal away with that awful clearance

[Reddish-Blue 2,495]

and all of them without any exception left because they didn't want to continue in the bench... it's hard to balance those things out because quality players don't want to sit down most matches and with the starting XI we have on midfield, that's where they'd most likely be.

We aren't at the same status as Madrid and Barça where players are happy to just be part of the team...

I don't think status is the problem..it's more to do with man management. If you can't keep players satisfied, why would they sit on the bench for you?

I still feel letting Schurrle go was a mistake....especially considering his replacement was Juan "can't stay on my feet" Cuadrado

[Barbara 15,149]

I don't think status is the problem..it's more to do with man management. If you can't keep players satisfied, why would they sit on the bench for you?

I still feel letting Schurrle go was a mistake....especially considering his replacement was Juan "can't stay on my feet" Cuadrado

we won't keep any player against their will. Andre wanted to leave, there was nothing that could have been done... He left as a bench player and he's still a bench player at Wolfsburg. If anything that's bad career management, not exactly man management.

I don't think Mourinho made mistakes on how he handled the AMs in the team. I think he's been making mistakes for a while about the titular defenders and squad players for both defense and midfield. Those mistakes could cost titles, I won't deny the possibility and I don't have much hope Iva and Cahill have chances of leaving the starting XI. His mistakes there are clear as day imo and as long as he continues to make them, we'll suffer and only time will tell what's going to cost us.

[Jase 43,479]

Mata never fit, KdB showed clearly - even with his own words, Mourinho's and his current manager's - he doesn't accept not being a nailed starter, so he wouldn't accept even to sit down some matches. Schurrle could have been a different story and I'm sis biggest fan, but he's been way too inconsistent despite being given plenty of chances to displace anyone from the starting XI. He failed to secure is spot time after time. Mata and Kev may have a point if they complain about chances given (I don't think they have much), but Schurrle definitely doesn't.

I can take your point regarding Mata and De Bruyne but not so much with Schurrle. Yes, I agree that he's inconsistent but if people can be patient with the likes of Oscar, Willian etc, then why can't they with Schurrle? He might not be talented but he has his qualities (e.g. scoring goals, which is one quality we're desperately lacking right now) and it's easy to forget that he's still young (only 25 years old - 1 year older than Oscar and 2 younger than Willian). Lets not also forget that he had that illness last season, which he and Mourinho admitted as much it affected his mental and physical fitness but we were quick to get rid of him. I don't necessarily think he wants to be an outright starter in the starting XI, like how De Bruyne wants it, but just proper game time, not 10-15 minutes here and there or 1 game here, 1 game there. With slightly better management, he wouldn't have felt unwanted and decided to leave (remember, he said he didn't want to leave the club but circumstances forced him to).

[Barbara 15,149]

I can take your point regarding Mata and De Bruyne but not so much with Schurrle. Yes, I agree that he's inconsistent but if people can be patient with the likes of Oscar, Willian etc, then why can't they with Schurrle? He might not be talented but he has his qualities (e.g. scoring goals, which is one quality we're desperately lacking right now) and it's easy to forget that he's still young (only 25 years old - 1 year older than Oscar and 2 younger than Willian). Lets not also forget that he had that illness last season, which he and Mourinho admitted as much it affected his mental and physical fitness but we were quick to get rid of him. I don't necessarily think he wants to be an outright starter in the starting XI, like how De Bruyne wants it, but just proper game time, not 10-15 minutes here and there or 1 game here, 1 game there.

Schurrle played much more than one game here and there and 10-15 minutes here and there. Your memory clearly fails you. People were complaining about how many chances he received and now they're complaining he didn't receive enough chances. The common denominator here is only one: complaining.

We can agree to disagree though.

[Jase 43,479]

Schurrle played much more than one game here and there and 10-15 minutes here and there. Your memory clearly fails you. People were complaining about how many chances he received and now they're complaining he didn't receive enough chances. The common denominator here is only one: complaining.

We can agree to disagree though.

He started games early in the season but his chances soon became limited during and after the illness. If he had been fully fit and still not made the most of them, then I would have agreed with you but there were factors why he failed to perform well and consistently, including those I mentioned in the previous post before the "10-15 minutes" part.

[Reddish-Blue 2,495]

Schurrle played much more than one game here and there and 10-15 minutes here and there. Your memory clearly fails you. People were complaining about how many chances he received and now they're complaining he didn't receive enough chances. The common denominator here is only one: complaining.

We can agree to disagree though.

Schurrle had only 3 games where he played more than 50 minutes (in the premier league) last season. Every other appearances 10-15 minute cameo.