Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 That 10 minute comment can't be real. Surely it was a misquote or taken out of context? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Not when your boss (Roman) wants instant success. He fired coaches that were winning go figure. I get you, no one ever is an absolute on the future. However, on that note of recognizing talent, he is correct, that much I know.Roman wants success but think he's willing to be more patient now. He's desperate to see youth players get promoted to the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Then why cant he see AND DO SUMMET ABOUT some of the problems we got going on?Unless of course he simply cant! And for whatever unknown reasons he HAS to use players already signed. Im HOPING this IS the reason because IF its purely because hes a stubborn git and wants to do a Wenger and try to prove HE is right and everyone else is stupid then he really isn't the man I presumed him to be and he should fuck off.Some of you guys keep forgetting that Jose left Chelsea the first spell for this very reason. Roman and his board buys what they want, when they want. Benitez wanted to change the team, they didn't even let him either. certain teams, that operate that way. Barca, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Spurs(Levy), Bayern, Juve, Inter Milan, Milan etc. They are owner controlled not coach. Those days are long gone. You work with the players we give you or hit the road.Secondly, Which coach out there that is available, can do better than Jose? If they fire Jose right now, who can get us to places right now? Even LVG is struggling at Man U.. Dick advocate is struggling. Klop couldn't handle it and left. Pep has aged 10 years at Bayern. Anceloti been used and fired by us. Quality coaches are almost non-existent. Wenger has been struggling for last ten years and will still not. The choices are almost zilch. Essien19, nullabletype and 1chelsea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! termninja 5,290 Posted August 6, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2015 Wow I'm amazed how some of you are short sighted. The 10 min assessment talk wasn't about young player only getting 10min to show Jose what he can do, but to point out that young players need to leave their heart on the pitch in those minutes and show they are not afraid. Young players have all the training sessions to show the hunger, quality and desire to the coaches. Have you seen Zouma tremble in some of the big games he had to play? Have you seen him stand in place like a superstar after making a mistake or was he the first player to sprint back all the way to our goal to fix his mistake?And yes our youth record is bad, but it's just a media stereotype that we're destroying young players compared to other teams. Look at Manchester youth players who are world class today. Didn't see them? Because there ain't any. Same with Arsenal also. Gibbs is 26 and is an average defender. Ramsey has struggled with fitness and had been inconsistent for some time. Wilshere and Walcott also. Voyeur hadn't actually produced a world class player from the incredible youth system for some time. And United? Silva brothers? Evans? Smalling? Yeah right... CMS, Barbara, 1chelsea and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Some of you guys keep forgetting that Jose left Chelsea the first spell for this very reason. Roman and his board buys what they want, when they want. Benitez wanted to change the team, they didn't even let him either. certain teams, that operate that way. Barca, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Spurs(Levy), Bayern, Juve, Inter Milan, Milan etc. They are owner controlled not coach. Those days are long gone. You work with the players we give you or hit the road.Secondly, Which coach out there that is available, can do better than Jose? If they fire Jose right now, who can get us to places right now? Even LVG is struggling at Man U.. Dick advocate is struggling. Klop couldn't handle it and left. Pep has aged 10 years at Bayern. Anceloti been used and fired by us. Quality coaches are almost non-existent. Wenger has been struggling for last ten years and will still not. The choices are almost zilch.Oh believe me mate I dont forget that time at all. Or the turnstile managers door we had. BUT Mou has recently said HE WAS HAPPY that Mr Abramovich didn't have anything to do now with players. So this is why I'm worried that it is ONLY Mou doing all this AND NOT a team put together by Roman.What I'm also confused about is when Mou came back there was a big to do about a term in his contract stating he wasn't in charge of transfers and it was Emenalo/Granovskaia CMS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 True but just because Mourinho is the manager and knows more, it doesn't mean he's always right (especially in regards to integrating youth players where his record has been poor). He is human after all...guess you looking for a perfect manager then but there is non Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 guess you looking for a perfect manager then but there is nonNo. It's just infuriating to see Mourinho being so reluctant and stubborn when it comes to using youth players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 JAMIE CARRAGHER: Jose Mourinho is worth 10 points a season to Chelsea. That's why they'll win the title again this season http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3187368/JAMIE-CARRAGHER-Jose-Mourinho-worth-10-points-season-Chelsea.html#ixzz3i4eBk0Zu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 6, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2015 JAMIE CARRAGHER: Jose Mourinho is worth 10 points a season to Chelsea. That's why they'll win the title again this season http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3187368/JAMIE-CARRAGHER-Jose-Mourinho-worth-10-points-season-Chelsea.html#ixzz3i4eBk0Zu From my experience, everyone thinks we'll win the league except the members of TC. Its kind a special. didierforever, Viper22, Essien19 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! ice-boy 165 Posted August 6, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2015 From my experience, everyone thinks we'll win the league except the members of TC. Its kind a special.I have been here for 3 years, every year is same, too much skepticism here. It's special place. Viper22, Essien19, xPetrCechx and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Unionjack 7,532 Posted August 6, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2015 I have been here for 3 years, every year is same, too much skepticism here. It's special place.Nah, the last 2 seasons I was on such a high I bet on us every week no matter who we played. Last year there was a feeling in the stands that was electric till Xmas time and everyone felt like we ruled the world. There wasn't a bit of skepticism.All the guys I know that follow us are all feeling different scales of pessimism this season and I dont feel confident of beating Swansea. Beigl, TheIceMan, MihaiM24 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 From my experience, everyone thinks we'll win the league except the members of TC. Its kind a special.If our squad stays fit I'm fairly sure TC would agree we would win the league again, but chances for that are slim. Our squad is small, and one bigger injury to Costa, Terry, Fabregas or Hazard could make us leak points. Besides, being champions means every team out there is going to give even more then last season against you, and imagine our team against such an opponent with Ramires and Mikel in the pivot, Remy in attack, Cuadrado on wing against physical defenders? I agree that lots of members here probably exaggerate on some things, but on others I find some posts here much more realistic then what pundits and media make it out to be. kellzfresh and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Besides, being champions means every team out there is going to give even more then last season against youThis sentence is SUCH a bulshit imo... people keep repeating it with no real essence to it.Btw i didnt talk only about media and pundits, more about neutral fans, opposition fans etc.Besides the fact some members here are always pessimistic and negative, they're also looking only at Chelsea's problems. So in saying "Chelsea wont win the league", it means some club will, but they're not analyzing the other clubs problems and their chances to succeed/fail. Ignoring that makes their post shallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 This sentence is SUCH a bulshit imo... people keep repeating it with no real essence to it.Btw i didnt talk only about media and pundits, more about neutral fans, opposition fans etc.Besides the fact some members here are always pessimistic and negative, they're also looking only at Chelsea's problems. So in saying "Chelsea wont win the league", it means some club will, but they're not analyzing the other clubs problems and their chances to succeed/fail. Ignoring that makes their post shallow.You have a right to think so, but if you look back throughout the recent history of PL, you will find less competitiveness in the league, but only Chelsea and Manu who managed to retain the title, and that's not a coincidence.And have something in mind, my posts are aimed towards the current squad we have at this moment, and the current squad has just 5 defenders, injured Costa with a big question mark over his fitness and a still awful Cuadrado.I don't believe that will be our final squad once the season starts, so lots of the post all over TC will become not important if our squad gets some additions like Stones and Baba and hopefully someone else. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 So many other reasons could explain that, so many. it's just an opinion, but people are using this theory as if it was a scientific fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Our Title depends on costa... marketing media pet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Our Title depends on costa...and Matic and Cesc and Hazard ... AND .. a very thin ice to stand on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 So many other reasons could explain that, so many. it's just an opinion, but people are using this theory as if it was a scientific fact.It is not an scientific fact exactly, but it's a well known thing in human psychology. To motivate a group of people to accomplish a grand feat is difficult, but to motivate them to do it again can prove much more difficult. On top of that, humans are living emotional beings, not robots, and being under constant pressure is a very tiring situation for human brain, and you are under a lot of pressure when you're the champ.And to add to that, I do think you will agree with me that a team X will approach a game differently in some manner if the opposition is the champion rather then not? It's not about how differently will they approach it, but for the simple fact that they will approach it differently. Some will find more motivation to win, some will alter gameplan, some will prepare more for the game, and some will even get scared or more relaxed. Considering the quality of football and players in England, that usually manifests itself in a way that teams either get out there without pressure to face the champion and do well, because hey, it's the champ he's the best, or teams give those extra 10% and make your game a very long and painful one. If you add that slight change of difficulty against teams on your team who has lost its sharpness and edge (which I'm sure will not happen under Jose), then you can start leaking points. You start leaking points, boat starts to shake, media find you very attractive and send more winds rocking your boat, and you're in for a very messy, wet and long trip, and chances are you're not gonna arrive as the first one on your destination. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MihaiM24 156 Posted August 7, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 7, 2015 and Matic and Cesc and Hazard ... AND .. a very thin ice to stand onSo what? Yaya went to copa africa, city won fuck all. Robben got injured, bayern played like shit in the end of the season. Arsenal gets injuries every season and.. well thats what they do. Dortmund without Reus were close to relegation last season. I'm sure every team would struggle if one of their star players gets an injury. CMS, Viper22, Barbara and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 last summers transfer window was completed early ,, gave fans and team a boost . It is this window that has caused such negative thoughts allied with some terrible pre season performances. I am much less confident now than I was at the end of May Unionjack, stroey and TheIceMan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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