MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 And Bayern had a new draw for the third time in the league right now, Bayern lost more points than Chelsea in a League where they don't have any oponent. The reality is that almost for sure with Mourinho CHelsea don't lose against big teams... and it seems really easy this kind of games... But it's not like that.Before a game against WBA every one here is really concerned because it's a difficult game... but then you want to win without any problems in Old Trafford.Chelsea had the best record against the big 4 or 5 last season, and this season we will do it again. If you want to win scoring 4 goals in old trafford buy Messi or Ronaldo, and Bale and Suarez.Put that into perspective.I actually think Bundesliga quality improved this season, can't be a coincidence that Bayer, Bayern, Schalke, Wolfsburg and Dortmund all struggled a few times. Dortmund especially lost already like 5 games, I mean they are not that shit right?You don't have to have Messi, CR7, Bale...etc you just need the mentality. Once you go 1 up you want more, but with Jose it is settle down and kill it. Not saying it is right or wrong because it brought Jose so much success but still it could be changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Bayern lost to Real at home 4-0. Bayern played 0-0 against Hamburg. Bayern play 0-0 against Gladbach. Dude. Stop making sense. Dint u get the memo? After every draw/loss, people will critisize Jose.I mean, cesc was having a great match was not he? As was oscar? We should have continued losing balls in the mid and be circumspect to counters rather than try and protect a lead on a day where most of our best attacking options were poor, we were playinf a 36 year old striker who has limitations. I mean these guys should be football managers. darrus and Cholo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9536447/jose-praises-'fantastic'-chelseaPost match interview vs ManU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 and Peps Barca tried to kill us off our worse team for 2 decades and got suker punched on the counter (Ramires goal).There's no right or wrong when defending a lead.are we using our 2 games against them as template for success in defending? the games where they hit the post, miss 1 on 1 and really should be scoring probably 7-8 goals over 2 matches? Or do you mean something else? 2 decades what LOL?Bayern lost to Real at home 4-0. Bayern played 0-0 against Hamburg. Bayern play 0-0 against Gladbach. Irrelevance. Jose Madrid also got messed 5-0 a few years ago by Pep Barca. I am using the situation ATM. Also drawing 0-0 against 2 small bus parking clubs is a lot different from drawing for being defensive in big matches. If we want to play this game we also did it against Norwich...etc last season.I am not criticizing Jose or his tactic, I just think it is time for him to change a bit with his mentality and approach. Maybe lets get 2 goals lead from now on and park the plane after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Not the end of the world. Tough, but Man U are improving. 2 points from Manchester won't lose us the title. We are still 6 points ahead of City and they have to come to our house next time.Yes we wouldnt lose the title and are well ahead ... But games like these are the ones which needs to be finished off, that what champions do ... Were United improving, i dont think so ... at times we made them look good, we didnt really test their weak defence, instead Fellani of all ppl bullied us in the middle. We are much much better than what we put up today, so falling down couple of levels and losing out 2 points is not really done (for me) ...I know we need to look into the positives but if we aspire to be champions we need to be ruthless in our execution and not be content by a point specially when we have the quality to finish off opponents ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I actually think Bundesliga quality improved this season, can't be a coincidence that Bayer, Bayern, Schalke, Wolfsburg and Dortmund all struggled a few times. Dortmund especially lost already like 5 games, I mean they are not that shit right?I am actually German and support a German side. You could not be further from the truth, please stop spreading Bullshit. What you are telling is totally wrong and false. Zero knowledge of football but always good for a senseless comment, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Shame... again... When I saw mikel I knew that we are going to concede....and zouma... did nothing at their goal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 are we using our 2 games against them as template for success in defending? the games where they hit the post, miss 1 on 1 and really should be scoring probably 7-8 goals over 2 matches? Or do you mean something else? 2 decades what LOL?Irrelevance. Jose Madrid also got messed 5-0 a few years ago by Pep Barca. I am using the situation ATM. Also drawing 0-0 against 2 small bus parking clubs is a lot different from drawing for being defensive in big matches. If we want to play this game we also did it against Norwich...etc last season.I am not criticizing Jose or his tactic, I just think it is time for him to change a bit with his mentality and approach. Maybe lets get 2 goals lead from now on and park the plane after.Our 11/12 team was the worse since the mid 90's, we were terrible im still at a loss explaining how we pulled off the FA Cup never mind the CL.Doesn't matter how many times they hit post, after Iniestas goal they went all out to kill us off, and we suker punched them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,892 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The little details have cost us the 3 points, Ivanovic giving away a needless foul, Zouma ball watching for the goal... nono 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 and Peps Barca tried to kill us off our worse team for 2 decades and got suker punched on the counter (Ramires goal).There's no right or wrong when defending a lead.2 decades? Exaggerating much haha?There is no full proof method but I think going for that second goal, which doesn't mean going all-out attack (even though many seem to refuse to believe that), pays off more often than sitting back. Joker10 and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Our 11/12 team was the worse since the mid 90's, we were terrible im still at a loss explaining how we pulled off the FA Cup never mind the CL.Doesn't matter how many times they hit post, after Iniestas goal they went all out to kill us off, and we suker punched them.We pulled it off because we had probably a few of the luckiest matches in CL history along with some moments of genius from Ramires,Drogba and Cech. Those matches conclude nothing at all, if we had a rematch a few months later I think we would have got rape by that Barca team playing the exact same team again.Yep Ramires goal was like I said once in a life time go, it will never happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 oh jose jose... disappointed me today. first time this season. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 2 decades? Exaggerating much haha?There is no full proof method but I think going for that second goal, which doesn't mean going all-out attack (even though many seem to refuse to believe that), pays off more often than sitting back.After Zola, Robbie and co arrived in the mid 90s, was any team we had worse than that? in terms of results and the performances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledg 644 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Next week if Manure have the same luck against City and we beat QPR I want to see most of the comments. It's not the end of the world guys. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 After Zola, Robbie and co arrived in the mid 90s, was any team we had worse than that? in terms of results and the performances?The PL wasn't as strong back then as it is now. The teams of the 90s and early 00s weren't better, come on.It was the worst team in the Abramavich era, yet they won (I have no idea how). Isn't that what it's all about according to many haha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 and Peps Barca tried to kill us off our worse team for 2 decades and got suker punched on the counter (Ramires goal).There's no right or wrong when defending a lead.You really can't say a team that won our only CL is our worst team in 2 decade. You are also mistaking individual talent for a team.After Zola, Robbie and co arrived in the mid 90s, was any team we had worse than that? in terms of results and the performances?Performance is subjective matter, but result is objective. That team won a CL and FA Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Don't care, best manager in the world. MrBlueGuy, Roquila, Cholo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Next week if Manure have the same luck against City and we beat QPR I want to see most of the comments. It's not the end of the world guys.and if City beat Manure and we lose to the Hoops the Lemmings will be heading for the cliffs darrus, Chelsea Legend 11 and Ledg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 You really can't say a team that won our only CL is our worst team in 2 decade. You are also mistaking individual talent for a team.Performance is subjective matter, but result is objective. That team won a CL and FA Cup.Knockout cups can be won any time, the Greece team in the last word cup were imo better than the team that won the Euros.I don't doubt the sheer spirit and desire we shown to win the CL ofcourse not, however that was the most one sided final i have seen, we were well off the pace compared to thd elite and it showed, the win was simply remarkable.If our team of 2000 got the rub of the green in Barca, with 3 one off games after that, who knows if they would have done the same.Small margins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,892 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It's the most dissapointing game since he took over, losing to the lesser sides last season almost became expected, so I won't count Sunderland.City won't be dropping points too often, and we will almost certainly go through a dip in form. Barbara and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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