NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Stupid points like what? You jumped into a conversation and picked something to make yourself feel like you're right about something. Just accept the fact that you were wrong about sam alardyce and stop being a grumpy ....okay, how many agrees with Kellzfresh about Sam fucking Alardyce being a "Master Tactician"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svajo 153 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 i won't be surprised at all if we drop points in this one- away game- derby- Chris Foy- right after international breakyou forgot the most important one... it's still November! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 okay, how many agrees with Kellzfresh about Sam fucking Alardyce being a "Master Tactician"?You intentionally left out where i said he's solidified their defense tactically and youre trying to make it seem like i said he's some guardiola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 NiclasCFC is the most smartest member here.He's been grumpy of late, the other day he attacked you. I dont know whats up with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 He's been grumpy of late, the other day he attacked you. I dont know whats up with himI attacked him? wtf he insulted my country! and if I remember correctly my Fuck off post to Iceboy got a decent number of likes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Alardyce master tactician??? Well now i have read everything. And oh i saw a flying pig yesterday.I wouldn't say he's a master tactician, but he is certainly not a manager to take lightly, he has good a very good track record with his teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 3-5-2 is a very risky formation these days because most sides play with lots of width provided by the second attacking line. You end up losing your own wide players because they have to track back to provide defensive width to the back line.It could work in certain circumstances of course.I was just saying we could start with our 4-2-3-1iva, terry, luiz, bertrandmikel, ramires,willian, mata, hazardetoand after 15 mins if mourinho sees the same pattern like against westbrom first half with 2 lines of four defending deep without attacking, the same team switch to 3-5-2 to apply pressure while they are only sitting deep and surprise them instead of letting the whole first half go to waste againiva terry luizwillian ramires mikel bertrand..............mata..........eto hazardAfter they score, they get back to their positions. Its just a tactical switch, to surprise the opponent early and it could pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 You intentionally left out where i said he's solidified their defense tactically and youre trying to make it seem like i said he's some guardiola. Guardiola's no Big Sam, he hasn't won the double every season like Sam would do at Madrid, or Chelsea and United no problem, it has to be true, he said it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I attacked him? wtf he insulted my country! and if I remember correctly my Fuck off post to Iceboy got a decent number of likes...You just seem too moody all of a sudden. I say allardyce is a good defensive tactician (ask bolton and blackburn who sacked him and got relegated a season later) and you say he is not a good one. Lets agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 You just seem too moody all of a sudden. I say allardyce is a good defensive tactician (ask bolton and blackburn who sacked him and got relegated a season later) and you say he is not a good one. Lets agree to disagree. well RDM is also great at setting his team up defensively but that does not make him a Master Tacticion does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That's the million dollar question. I expect to see Ivanovic having plenty of possession down the right flank and being generally rubbish at crossing yet again. we lack ideas atm. sometimes I wonder what they do in training.In training they most likely play hide & seek, by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Guardiola's no Big Sam, he hasn't won the double every season like Sam would do at Madrid, or Chelsea and United no problem, it has to be true, he said it himself.Who dares compare that baby face to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I was just saying we could start with our 4-2-3-1iva, terry, luiz, bertrandmikel, ramires,willian, mata, hazardetoand after 15 mins if mourinho sees the same pattern like against westbrom first half with 2 lines of four defending deep without attacking, the same team switch to 3-5-2 to apply pressure while they are only sitting deep and surprise them instead of letting the whole first half go to waste againiva terry luizwillian ramires mikel bertrand..............mata..........eto hazardAfter they score, they get back to their positions. Its just a tactical switch, to surprise the opponent early and it could pay off. The problem with our 352 is that we're just as likely to concede as we are to score. It's a panic move designed to create a chaotic situation and not something you can really use unless you have no other choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 well RDM is also great at setting his team up defensively but that does not make him a Master Tacticion does it?It makes him a defensive tactician. (But he wasnt a good defensive one though we conceded a lot of chances) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 The problem with our 352 is that we're just as likely to concede as we are to score. It's a panic move designed to create a chaotic situation and not something you can really use unless you have no other choice.Indeed especially when Mourinho only sees it as a Plan B rather than starting/default formation with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The problem with our 352 is that we're just as likely to concede as we are to score. It's a panic move designed to create a chaotic situation and not something you can really use unless you have no other choice.Its a risk i know, but when the opponent is not coming out of their 18box and are just booting the ball away then its not much of a risk if we switch for a while. Since its the same players, mouriho can shout from the bench to the boys to switch back whenever he wantsBecause of the international break, i dont think we had time to advance our tactics on the 4-2-3-1. So i just know if westham decide to sit deep tomorrow with two blocks of four. We will see the first half performance of our last two matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Indeed especially when Mourinho only sees it as a Plan B rather than starting/default formation with it..Okay i see why you were so reluctant with what i said. Your saying its dangerous for us and we may concede goals right. The only time we should switch to it is when we realize they dont want to come out of their 18box and are booting the ball away to safety. That way, we know they wont bring so many players out to attack us.If they stop using the two blocks of four defending and start attacking too, then its perfect because we can switch back to our 4-2-3-1 and have more space to attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Okay i see why you were so reluctant with what i said. Your saying its dangerous for us and we may concede goals right. The only time we should switch to it is when we realize they dont want to come out of their 18box and are booting the ball away to safety. That way, we know they wont bring so many players out to attack us.If they stop using the two blocks of four defending and start attacking too, then its perfect because we can switch back to our 4-2-3-1 and have more space to attack. Not necessary exactly that but somewhere along the lines of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Who dares compare that baby face to thisOn a side note you should keep a close eye on Big Sam's post match interviews every week, they are actually hilarious.He once said "leave it to me im the expert not you" and at one point this season said "Jussi hasn't had much to do before today we have been that good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Not necessary exactly that but somewhere along the lines of it. At least i tried On a side note you should keep a close eye on Big Sam's post match interviews every week, they are actually hilarious.He once said "leave it to me im the expert not you" and at one point this season said "Jussi hasn't had much to do before today we have been that good". Typical Big Sam there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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