Closed Chelsea 0-2 Swansea

[Rmpr 8,977]

the point is ,,he isnt going to be benched ,,, he will stay our first choice striker ... we dont even have Lukaku now

I get your point and I understand it.

I am not judging, just saying I dont wish him bad. I mean, I would not be sad if he gets injured, but I dont go as far as saying i want him fucked.

[Kieran. 6,317]

This season is so annoying.

[zolayes 14,489]

I get your point and I understand it.

I am not judging, just saying I dont wish him bad. I mean, I would not be sad if he gets injured, but I dont go as far as saying i want him fucked.

of course you are correct but I supported the cunt for almost two years and I just want him OUT

[DDA 9,938]

Tonight was the tale of our season. Fernando Torres. If tonight hasn't benched him for good then I will be a monkeys uncle. Ivanovic had a shocker and tbh it just simply wasn't good enough but everyone has their off days, today was a big one. Ba's goal should have counted too what the fuck that ref was on I'll never know.

[Rmpr 8,977]

This season is so annoying.

This year has been a rollercoaster for me.

1st Semester: Chelsea wins UCL and FA Cup - Palmeiras wins Copa do Brasil (Brazilian FA Cup)

2nd Semester: Chelsea loses Community Shield, Super Cup, CWC and gets behind EPL and COC race - Palmeiras gets relegated

[Zone 290]

Luiz, Azpi, Ramires, Ivanovic...I've lost count of the amount of times they just shoot the ball sky-high and ruin our momentum. All we need now is Di Maria to complete the set.

Anyway, no matter how frustrated i got today, we really did play some amazing football, just a fucking shame we have a fucking rat upfront. Word's cannot describe my hate for him nowadays.

I appreciate Ramires, one of my favorites, but at times he can so clumsy for a pro footballer, that first touch sometimes is just embarrassing.

Special shout out to our boy wonder, Mata. Where were you today ? Another one of his extremely wasteful performances. Ivanovic was gutted though, i felt sorry for him but he did cost us this cup. Cahil, Luiz, Hazard. and Oscar were great though.

Ref and Linesman, you two are a JOKE. There's no way that BA could have stayed on his feet there. If it's not a penalty then fair enough, but a yellow for that ? That's just ridiculous. I can't stand these refs when they try to be too clever.

[Rambo 1,729]

THATS FUCKING IT GUYS... BELIEVE AND DONT FORGET "NAPOLI"... its time to do another NAPOLI...

Except we're missing the likes of Drogba, Terry and Cech.

[GodZola 630]

The irony is Torres was worse against Leeds yet scores with a tap in & we win & fans don't notice - strange that?! His performance against Leeds was one of the worst I've seen from a pro footballer in years, he was poor tonight too but so were others, Mata who is normally so influential had imo his worst game this season, Oscar who was played in the wrong position was largely inconspicuous.

Contrary to what some have said most of the blame does fall in Benitez's lap, we have failed to score in 3 of the last 4 home games before tonight so some alarm bells should of been triggered but we seem so one dimensional when we play organized teams that set up to defend, can't understand why he played with 4 defenders & Ramires holding when none of those players have no one to mark for most of the game? Why not start with Ba & Marin, least we would have a striker that has movement & the shape of the team has more balance with 2 natural wingers were he should be telling them to change over sides periodically, just to give teams more to think about. I was stunned on how long it took Benitez to make a change - inept!

[teignman 441]

of course you are correct but I supported the cunt for almost two years and I just want him OUT

Agree. Roman is a business man, and an extremely shrewd and skilful one at that (add ruthless to that list). If one of his employees is seriously under performing, he would let them go. Heaven knows he does it with our managers. So why not with blondie? I know he is on ridiculously high wages, but the time has come for us to see if we can find a way to get rid of him. Even if that means letting him go on a free, and paying a significant portion of his wages.

[didierforever 7,349]

Except we're missing the likes of Drogba, Terry and Cech.

we will have terry(definitely) and cech (probably), and about one third of drog-BA which should be more than enough for swansea.

[Billy. 2,742]

dont wanna be negative but going to say it we are not winning by 3 goals in the 2nd leg

[robdog 2,084]

I was stunned on how long it took Benitez to make a change - inept!

Teams are able to plan against redundant rafa tactics. Curious, does anyone think rafadyce can get a result vs le arse? Just for the record, RDM was able to goto Emirates twice & come away unbeaten both times. Sorry, telly tubby is not better than RDM. People might say he is, but look at the current results. I don't see a clear edge for telly tubby. If you do, please educate me so I might be tempted to jump on this ship of fools.

[Hutcho 8,443]

dont wanna be negative but going to say it we are not winning by 3 goals in the 2nd leg

That's what pens are for.

[Hutcho 8,443]

I hope rafa is just saying that he didn't think ba was any better than torres in his short time on the pitch to keep the peace as if he actually believes that then he is either a) delusional

worst manager ever

C) torres fan boy

D) roman has told him you can't touch torres.

I don't get how every proper Chelsea fan on the planet will tell you that ba is better than torres, yet the one bloke who matters doesn't.

[robdog 2,084]

the point is do u actually believe that both rdm and rafa are so bad managers that they cant see that torres is a liabilty?

I thought RDM did give up on Torres @ Juve. Remember the false 9 was deployed in that match?

[shellpick 13]

We only have one demba ba and that is the problem. It makes sometimes rafa has to put torres in the first team where frankly he does not have the quality to be. If feilleni or isco can come, can we push them to the forward line?

[Hutcho 8,443]

The irony is Torres was worse against Leeds yet scores with a tap in & we win & fans don't notice - strange that?! His performance against Leeds was one of the worst I've seen from a pro footballer in years, he was poor tonight too but so were others, Mata who is normally so influential had imo his worst game this season, Oscar who was played in the wrong position was largely inconspicuous.

Contrary to what some have said most of the blame does fall in Benitez's lap, we have failed to score in 3 of the last 4 home games before tonight so some alarm bells should of been triggered but we seem so one dimensional when we play organized teams that set up to defend, can't understand why he played with 4 defenders & Ramires holding when none of those players have no one to mark for most of the game? Why not start with Ba & Marin, least we would have a striker that has movement & the shape of the team has more balance with 2 natural wingers were he should be telling them to change over sides periodically, just to give teams more to think about. I was stunned on how long it took Benitez to make a change - inept!

I think everyone saw that torres was shit vs Leeds except a minority. And some people will say about his goals this season and whilst some have been quite spectacular the majority are tap ins and are unimportant or came with a bad performance. He still can't score a 1 on 1 and seems to get lost for 75 Mins on the pitch. And on the rafa front... The blame comes to him on how late he made the changes not the team setup. I would have played torres before giving ba a run of games starting with Stoke and we dominated throughout... I can't remember them having a good chance that wasn't an Ivan present... If he puts ba on at half time or even 60 Mins I am confident we don't have a 2 goal deficit going into the second leg. We saw what he could do in 10 Mins.

[TheCount 146]

I firmly believe with Ba on the field from the start we'll win the second leg hands down,

Bar poor ivan having a shocker, they werent going to get those 2 goals and is Ba was on the field instead of whoever is pretending to be torres these days, we'd of scored, Ba done more in 9 mins then torres did in 80 odd, unless cunt.

Rami should of been off for lamps sooner and Ba for Torres half time, Marin for oscar just seemed like a sub for subs sake but he didnt play badly so was fine.

Rafa proves again he's a useless cunt. Just like he was at liverpool, What was the song we used to sing to him when he was manager there? "We want you to stay! We want you to stay! Rafa Benetiez we want you to stay!" We though he was shit then, whats changed?

Anyway lads chin up, Ba looks to at least step up and be a man about it and be a striker for once, he might not be amazing, but he'll at least to a job, unlike the sorry cunts he's replacing, sturridge and torres.

[Shogun 721]

I've only read like two pages of this thread but I'll try give a take on my neutral view on this match.

Dominated the game but was incredibly wasteful, you must have had about 20 shots in that match and over half of them were off target. Regardless of how useless Torres was, he wasn't to blame for all those opportunities that couldn't even hit the target.

Mata should have put you ahead when he was 1 on 1 in the penalty area and just hit at Tremmel but then again the way he has played this season I suppose you can't expect him to come up with the goods every single time.

Ivanovic was desperately unlucky with the first goal, in most games if that mistake is made ten 9 times out of ten it will come to nothing but Michu produced a bit of magic and Turnbull was a little bit too far off his line for me. The second was just dreadful.

On the penalty appeal that Ba was booked for diving, I have the same opinion as Chris Coleman and Dennis Wise in the studio. For me it's not a penalty and not a dive. The ball is going out for a goal kick even if Ba doesn't clash with the keeper, also the keeper is already past Ba and in my view Ba ran into his legs more than anything. The problem with this is that referees seem to think it HAS to be a dive or penalty when it doesn't.

Offside goal was unlucky but I don't think you can attach too much blame to the linesman. Ba's shin is probably the only offside bit of his body and within a split second he probably looked well offside to the linesman. He was like 1/10 offside but I'd be annoyed if that was given against Everton.

Ba looked very good when he came on, Hazard ran the show for parts but for Irony I put Ivanovic man of the match.

[super_frank8 186]

I hope rafa is just saying that he didn't think ba was any better than torres in his short time on the pitch to keep the peace as if he actually believes that then he is either a) delusional

worst manager ever

C) torres fan boy

D) roman has told him you can't touch torres.

The correct answer is:

E) All of the above