Isco

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Learn to take things into perspective.

Alonso is too much of a Nuissance without a good system around him or a great partner.

Mourinho gave him none.

He is on his last year with Madrid, is 32 in a few months, and is injured till october.

This guys is past it, we need a much more capable midfield and he will not be part of the future.

If other clubs want him thats their problem, but here in madrid players like isco, gundogan, modric, and kondogbia are the future.

At best he could serve as sub, but the best for everyone is for alonso to leave madrid.

Go to the thread on chelsea formations write above the transfer section i believe and i wrote a piece on alonso and on what chelsea could look like with mourinho.

Or how it should if he has learned from his madrid stay.

Take not that im being harsh on alonso and khedira by calling them Dead and Piss respectively but it is what i see them as when talking about wanting a midfield that can take on

Busquets

Xavi iniesta

Martinez Schweinesteiger

Kroos

etc.

Alonso is on the latter stage of his career, past his prime, and past his use.

Thanks for the memories alonso as he is one of my favorite players of all time because of his class outside the pitch, and his nice passes, but as a player he was never complemented well in madrid, and a new generation has arrived.

About khedira, i have suffered enough years of iniesta ripping khedira into pieces far enough.

The guy has no acceleration or technique, not the best of positional awareness, and turns like a tank.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Learn to take things into perspective.

Alonso is too much of a Nuissance without a good system around him or a great partner.

Mourinho gave him none.

He is on his last year with Madrid, is 32 in a few months, and is injured till october.

This guys is past it, we need a much more capable midfield and he will not be part of the future.

If other clubs want him thats their problem, but here in madrid players like isco, gundogan, modric, and kondogbia are the future.

At best he could serve as sub, but the best for everyone is to leave madrid.

I think the reason you post on this forum is because even the people on the Madrid forums have become tired of you...

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Is there any relevant point you are trying to make Konohas or just another butthurt outburst?

If there is a thread about madrid prospects or players that are under chelsea watch i chip in.

I have chipped in on the tactics thread, and i will chip in more once the chelsea season actually starts.

Seeing as youve never really gotten into a proper argument with me about anything relevant, either ignore or comply. As i am doing nothing wrong to you intentionally.

Madrid forums are more than enough for me if thats all i wanted and obviously its not atm.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Is there any relevant point you are trying to make Konohas or just another butthurt outburst?

If there is a thread about madrid prospects or players that are under chelsea watch i chip in.

I have chipped in on the tactics thread, and i will chip in more once the chelsea season actually starts.

Seeing as youve never really gotten into a proper argument with me about anything relevant, either ignore or comply. As i am doing nothing wrong to you intentionally.

The moment you said Alonso is past it I can't take you serious anymore. And when you said Ronaldo is ineffective because he is selfish, yeah I would love someone like that if it means him getting 50 goals per year himself. To be fair I wouldn't mind playing 4-6-1 if it means Ronaldo still getting 50 goals a year because that is a lot for even 2 top strikers, let alone a single player.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

@ BlueMourinhoKing

You have to respect other opinions to a certain degree.

I have explained my self, more than enough on my reasoning.

Any relevant historic team would be stupid to put Ronaldo in their side.

I cant take you seriously at all with the opinions you give but i still try to interact if its the truth you want to hear.

The space ronaldo leaves open so that open midfields like mourinhos madrid get exploited is uncanny. The diva needs to learn how to track back more. And its not only that, he minimizes what guys like benzema and ozil can do.

If reus was in ronaldo's spot, we would be a better overall team.

Ozil and Benzema would be improved, there would be better team work and cohesion, and less salaries and wages as well.

Fudge Ronaldo for all that i care lmfao.

Lets not even talk about the negative image, and the freekick horror.

I doubt you have tactical astuteness of any degree that is to be considered relevant if you cant really atleast understand what im saying.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Oh and dont forget the lack of football iq when it comes to positioning, and vision compared to someone like muller ffs.

Ronaldo is a one dimensional mess compared to the greats.

A team carried by messi is atleast carried by someone much more multi faceted in positive ways.

Ronaldo is a fad, loved by the un-analytical.

And by positioning i dont mean goal scoring, i mean team build up, of all facets.

A genious like Matthaus or Xavi are real players, Messi wins balon d ors, justifyingly. As he is the best in every way that might be considered relevant to be known at #1

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Not the perfect analysis but adds more dirt to the ronaldo myth.

As dunphy once said..A nothing player...

A nothing player is someone who doesnt rank with the iniestas, zidanes, xavis, players who carry teams.

Not drag them into one dimensional mess.

[Special Juan 27,424]

WTF is all this shit? Madrid, Ronaldo, Ozil, Muller.....this is the Isco thread not the Madrid tactics and who's good and bad thread.

Go to a Madrid forum for Madrid talk, it's tiresome and off topic.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

People have asked about Modric maybe leaving, i explained to them why it aint happening.

That guy brought up ronaldo, i give my thoughts and compare with muller.

It all links up, i dont drop it in out of no where, and it is all far more relevant and informant than anything you or anyone else has posted in this thread since.

Aside from Boss and Ryan Davidson who bothered to have a nice conversation. Salute to them.

My prescence and comments are justified. I treat with respect, if you dont like it, ignore, or set a new standard.

Ive given information on konodgbia, Coentrao, soldado, chelsea and mourinho tactics, di maria, and etc. And i have enjoyed every second of it while getting into some good conversations.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

WTF is all this shit? Madrid, Ronaldo, Ozil, Muller.....this is the Isco thread not the Madrid tactics and who's good and bad thread.

Go to a Madrid forum for Madrid talk, it's tiresome and off topic.

No, it isn't off-topic at all. This is the Isco thread, who may well be joining Real Madrid or Man City. Since we're discussing the player, it is prudent to discuss where he would fit in at his next club, including formations, tactics, and other players being sold to make way. How that classifies as "off topic" is beyond me.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Now DailyMail running a story that he actually hates Madrid. First its Citeh, then Madrid, then Citeh, then Madrid...He better be going to Madrid.

[Leif 6,006]

We all know he'll end up here. No I'm not joking. We want every attacking midfielder in world football and I believe Mou is an admirer. And it's another Spanish friend for Torres which has to be our priority.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Now DailyMail running a story that he actually hates Madrid. First its Citeh, then Madrid, then Citeh, then Madrid...He better be going to Madrid.

The interview where he confessed he was an "antimadrista" is three years old.

Hes recently quoted to have said: "Real Madrid are a club that excites me. They are one of the best teams in the world,". After losing Neymar to none other than Barca you sense Madrid are going to go big. Man City or PSG, they won't likely get outdone in the current circumstances. Having said that Man City does seem an attractive option from one perspective. I just hope his Spanish intution kicks in sooner rather than later.

[Jase 43,479]

Manchester City set to lose out to Real Madrid in race to sign Isco

And according to that article, City plan to play 4-3-3 next season.

[Toli 977]

Perez just literallly confirmed the deal. there is a "big chance that Isco will join us". "We want him, he wants us". and he will be confirmed after Ancelotti will be confirmed.

http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/88480-florentino-perez-ancelotti-presidente-isco-mourinho-cristiano-20-minutos/

isco will compete with özil and will also serve as a di maria back-up I think, because Bale wont come this summer. finally madrid have a decent back-up for özil and one of the best spanish talents out there. fee to be around 25-30 m.

[Pizy 18,368]

Perez just literallly confirmed the deal. there is a "big chance that Isco will join us". "We want him, he wants us". and he will be confirmed after Ancelotti will be confirmed.

http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/88480-florentino-perez-ancelotti-presidente-isco-mourinho-cristiano-20-minutos/

[Special Juan 27,424]

Literally ROFL.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Poor old City