Isco

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Isco looks great and all because of his dribbling but, honestly, we had a far better player in Mata and Mourinho couldn't wait to get rid of him. So this makes very little sense to me.

as much as i dont rate Isco as highly as some on here, he is definitley more of a Mourinho player then Mata.

[DYC. 7,542]

While I would like Isco and support his signing, because I think there is a desperate need for different (better actually) options, I don't think he suits Chelsea tbh. His talents wouldn't be utilized to the maximum and I can already imagine him being called inconsistent, a big game flop and general questioning of his attitude. Even though it's simply because his game is meant for a different type of football. If he were to leave Real, he'd be better off signing for City or Juventus.

[The Skipper 20,593]

While I would like Isco and support his signing, because I think there is a desperate need for different options, I don't think he suits Chelsea tbh. His talents wouldn't be utilized to the maximum and I can already imagine him being called inconsistent, a big game flop and general questioning of his attitude. Even though it's simply because his game is meant for a different type of football. If he were to leave Real, he'd be better off signing for City or Juventus.

Isn't this equivalent to saying that Eden should leave as well because we don't fully utilise his talents either?

[Viper22 2,418]

Why so many posts and people viewing this thread? Please stop getting my hopes up....

If we signed Isco I would be so so happy!!

[iseah100 5,612]

Why would we need him? Can't play a 4-3-3 with him.

[The Mak 4,459]

Isco isn't really anything like Mata at all. He's way stronger on the ball, a MUCH better dribbler, has better work rate, and isn't so light weight that he gets brushed off the ball with ease.

Isco can track back, he was even playing as double pivot sometimes last season

Isco was playing the Modric role at Real last season at times, he's much better than Mata defensively and has really good work rate.

Why be stuck in the past?? We got problems NOW and harping on about summet that happened years ago is no help to anyone.

We all know Mata WAS/is? a great player but for WHATEVER reasons he didnt suit our (Mous) playing mentality,styleat the time (Hes not the 1st and wont be the last) so the lad had to go for the benifit of the team as a whole.

as much as i dont rate Isco as highly as some on here, he is definitley more of a Mourinho player then Mata.

Ok, fair enough. Maybe I didn't make my point fully clear.

If we were singing him for his 'attacking prowess', we had a much better player for that in Mata. That is what I meant there.

As for him being an attacking player, his goals and assists are very similar to Oscar's, so I don't think he is a signing that could really change our dynamics. Yes, he's better at dribbling than Oscar but not really much else. Another Oscar-level signing is not what we need right now.

My real point is that we don't need Real Madrid's outcasts. We need someone who would start for 99% of top teams in the world. Someone like Griezmann, Koké or Pogba. These are the types of player who could really change how we play. Hell, considering the amount of space Cesc was surrendering yesterday and how bad Ramires is with the ball, even an all-around midfielder like Schneiderlin would be of more benefit to us now than an Isco/Oscar type signing.

[Pizy 18,368]

Ok, fair enough. Maybe I didn't make my point fully clear.

If we were singing him for his 'attacking prowess', we had a much better player for that in Mata. That is what I meant there.

As for him being an attacking player, his goals and assists are very similar to Oscar's, so I don't think he is a signing that could really change our dynamics. Yes, he's better at dribbling than Oscar but not really much else. Another Oscar-level signing is not what we need right now.

My real point is that we don't need Real Madrid's outcasts. We need someone who would start for 99% of top teams in the world. Someone like Griezmann, Koké or Pogba. These are the types of player who could really change how we play. Hell, considering the amount of space Cesc was surrendering yesterday and how bad Ramires is with the ball, even an all-around midfielder like Schneiderlin would be of more benefit to us now than an Isco/Oscar type signing.

Özil, Di Maria, and Robben are Real Madrid cast offs. Fabregas, Sanchez, and Yaya are Barca cast offs. Isco isn't a nailed on starter at Real Madrid because they are obsessed with getting a shiny new toy every summer.

He's better than Oscar and miles better than Willian so he'd start for us every game.

[DYC. 7,542]

Isn't this equivalent to saying that Eden should leave as well because we don't fully utilise his talents either?

Hazard would play at a higher level playing for Bayern, Barca etc. but Hazard will perform exceptionally anywhere. Because he has power and drive (added bonus of excellent fitness). Talents like Neymar, James, Pogba share that same quality, in addition to their individual ability. Isco doesn't have that so he's far more dependent on playing for a dominant outfit, providing him sufficient support and less ground to cover.

I'm not saying he would fail, not at all, but I highly doubt he would shine. Oscar is a different player and a lesser talent, but he suffers from the same issue. He has the right attitude, with his selfless and hard-working nature, but he can't maintain his level. A full season wears him out.

Silva is similar to Isco in this and I think Isco would make a fine succesor when he matures.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Ok, fair enough. Maybe I didn't make my point fully clear.

If we were singing him for his 'attacking prowess', we had a much better player for that in Mata. That is what I meant there.

As for him being an attacking player, his goals and assists are very similar to Oscar's, so I don't think he is a signing that could really change our dynamics. Yes, he's better at dribbling than Oscar but not really much else. Another Oscar-level signing is not what we need right now.

My real point is that we don't need Real Madrid's outcasts. We need someone who would start for 99% of top teams in the world. Someone like Griezmann, Koké or Pogba. These are the types of player who could really change how we play. Hell, considering the amount of space Cesc was surrendering yesterday and how bad Ramires is with the ball, even an all-around midfielder like Schneiderlin would be of more benefit to us now than an Isco/Oscar type signing.

Brother Ive already offered to donate my left dangley for any one of those 3. And theres been a hushed whisper and links saying we are still lookingat Griezmann so I might be in for an op yet!!!

[supporter 3,088]

This information can be the key to sign Isco or Varane ...

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Clean salary (after paying taxes) of R.Madrid players (in euros).

Pacheco: 800.000

Cherysehv: 1.000.000

Nacho: 1.200.000

Carvajal: 1.200.000

Casemiro: 1.200.000

Jesé: 1.200.000

Keylor Navas: 2.000.000

Isco: 2.000.000 (38.4561 euros per week).

Danilo: 2.000.000

Varane: 2.400.000 (46.153 euros per week).

Illarramendi: 2.400.000

Arbeloa: 2.800.000

Pepe: 3.800.000

Coentrao: 4.000.000

Marcelo: 4.000.000

Modric: 4.500.000

Toni Kroos: 6.000.000

James Rodríguez: 6.000.000

Benzema: 8.000.000

Sergio Ramos: 10.000.000

Gareth Bale: 11.000.000

Cristiano Ronaldo: 17.000.000

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I hate to say this, but in football the money is equal to the importance or the respect that a club gives to his players. And Varane and Isco have a very low salary ... (according to the money that players usually earn, not in real life, obviously)

Regards.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

With the rumours about Real signing Kovacic, maybe we are going after Isc...nope...NOPE...NOPEEEEE. Not happening.

Still nope.

[Pizy 18,368]

Still don't understand why they'd sign Kovacic. Didn't he have a hugely disappointing season last year? Even if not is he really Real Madrid standard?

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Di Marzio - Juventus asked Real & Chelsea about Isco & Oscar, both clubs not willing to sell.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Still don't understand why they'd sign Kovacic. Didn't he have a hugely disappointing season last year? Even if not is he really Real Madrid standard?

Still only 21 though.

[Oscar 441]

Still don't understand why they'd sign Kovacic. Didn't he have a hugely disappointing season last year? Even if not is he really Real Madrid standard?

RAFA

[Spike 12,049]

Still don't understand why they'd sign Kovacic. Didn't he have a hugely disappointing season last year? Even if not is he really Real Madrid standard?

Not from what I'm aware. He was Inter's prodigy.

[Last Sicarius 610]

Isco sounds nice. I dont watch Real games so where he palying? On Modrić place?

[Pizy 18,368]

Not from what I'm aware. He was Inter's prodigy.

Yeah, I knew he was 2 seasons ago when we were linked with him but I thought he then had a really poor season last year?