CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 A seemingly great start to the season was an image produced by a string of perfectly winnable games. Games that a team our standard should win 9 times out of 10, and we still didn't even manage to do that convincingly. Since when are Arsenal and Tottenham away "perfectly winnable games"?I never thought Robbie was the right guy to take the club forward but after what helped the club achieve last season he at least deserved a chance to prove otherwise. Let's not twist the facts, we had an excellent start for the season that exceeded most expectations. We were playing brilliantly apart from the games against Shakhtar and Swansea. And if we are going to appoint a temporary manager untill we get a world-class manager, then why not hold on to Robbie until we do so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 At the top end of football it is all about results, hench why 10-30% of teams a season sometimes more change manager's in England.a little pure Maths ,,,if the probability of changing a manager is 30% or 0.3 in a year then the probability of changing 3 in 3 years is 27/1000 or 2.7% I can give the figures for more years if you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 a little pure Maths ,,,if the probability of changing a manager is 30% or 0.3 in a yearthen the probability of changing 3 in 3 years is 27/1000 or 2.7% I can give the figures for more years if you wantThe probability stats of us changing managers shouldn't matter, we always end up with silverware after doing it, like Roman or not for sacking good managers it always provokes a reaction from the team. Like when Hiddink won the FA cup and probably should of had a chance to win the CL after Scolari got sacked, Robbie winning the CL and FA cup after AVB got sacked... surely history can only repeat itself... especially when we are in the Club World Cup and last 8 of the Capital One Cup with Arsenal being the only other top 4 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I have no doubt RDM was the right man at the right time. But he didn't, and wouldn't of had the quality we need to go forward.And you know this based on one bad month. Roman didn't want him from day one but if he was such a boss why did he even give Robbie the job ? Then he waited for a mistake to sack him.He deserved at least one season after what he'd done. Usually Henrique is the first one on this forum to say a manager must be sacked, yet even he said he wasn't sure. He couldn't be, because Robbie wasn't given enough time.PS. I'm not discussing results with you guys anymore, cause according to you Arsenal and Spuds away were perfectly winnable games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 RDM is our LEGEND but the sacking was on the card cause he's tactically poor , I've not seen him making any notes in any game , and to the people saying he deserved another season LOL ? His poor tactical decisions would have lost us the Premier League =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I don't give a fuck, if you help us win the European Cup, you should stay on for at least a year. And not be replaced by RAFA BENITEZ.Fucking infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I don't give a fuck, if you help us win the European Cup, you should stay on for at least a year. And not be replaced by RAFA BENITEZ.Fucking infuriating.But what about missing out on Europe next season, because of a finish outside of the top 4?We've been on a poor run of form - and I think the board just couldn't see any signs of improvement - I think the loss to WBA was the final nail in his coffin...I also think the excellent start to the season - gave the Board unrealistic expectations - hence RDM made a rod for his own back - Going from 1st to 3rd (when he was sacked) seemed like a U-Turn in performances and form.I think 'everybody' was surprised he wasn't given until after Xmas - but the Board clearly thought a new manager before Xmas and January window would be a better option than retaining RDM's services.We won't ever know if this decision was correct - as even if we judge RB from now to the end of the season, that's not comparing Apples with Apples...So understand the frustration - but hopefully as a forum we can all move on and look forward to smashing Fulham... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Was Didier Drogba sacked?Drogba almost costed us trophy twice, give Cech the credit he deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 lol there is 3-1 in the scoreline wishful thinking!aggregate. But I guess it won't matter after sometime, just like few people will think Terry played that night in Munich when they'll see the pic of him, Lamps and Drogba huging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,353 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Glad to see some people have sense on here in term of robbies tactical inept management this season! Timing was right if not I'd prefer before the juve game. Gives the players just over a month to get rafas tactics down and he is able to make his recommendations to Michael emenalo on who should be signed to fit his system this season, for what it's worth. I.e. another CM maybe a striker or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Found an Independent article from 1996, talking about Chelsea 1 - 0 Middlesbrough. Di Matteo scored the winner in his debut.http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/di-matteo-breaks-chelsea-deadlock-1310957.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 And you know this based on one bad month. Roman didn't want him from day one but if he was such a boss why did he even give Robbie the job ? Then he waited for a mistake to sack him.He deserved at least one season after what he'd done. Usually Henrique is the first one on this forum to say a manager must be sacked, yet even he said he wasn't sure. He couldn't be, because Robbie wasn't given enough time.PS. I'm not discussing results with you guys anymore, cause according to you Arsenal and Spuds away were perfectly winnable gamesI know this because his CV includes a season at MK Dons and a sacking by West Brom. How many managers have a CV like that and have legitimately made the jump to Champions League winners? It doesn't happen. The stage was set and he happened to be the man in charge.Arsenal and Spurs, in context, were winnable games because neither of them were setting the world alight, and still aren't. But even if we concede those two, the rest still weren't good enough. It's no use turning up against the the big teams if you can't do the routine against the mid table and bottom dwellers (which we may have done at the start, but we were found out under RDM because he had no plan B ).I also like how you opted to ignore all the perfectly valid points I made in the rest of my post.Since when are Arsenal and Tottenham away "perfectly winnable games"?I never thought Robbie was the right guy to take the club forward but after what helped the club achieve last season he at least deserved a chance to prove otherwise. Let's not twist the facts, we had an excellent start for the season that exceeded most expectations. We were playing brilliantly apart from the games against Shakhtar and Swansea. And if we are going to appoint a temporary manager untill we get a world-class manager, then why not hold on to Robbie until we do so?As above, Arsenal and Spurs haven't had great seasons. I'm not saying every fixture we played was straight forward, but in the PL 90% of them were. There'd be something drastically wrong if RDM couldn't just pick a starting a 11 and send them out to do the job against those other teams.My main point being that if anybody believes our PL results to be indicative of RDMs ability, they're mad.Anyway, you's will all prove me wrong when RDM is offered a job at a huge club and he does absolutely great things with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 But there is no gurantee Rafa will get us top 4 so we could still miss out either way!We tend to play well under new mangers for the first few games and then you begin to see how things will goAnd as for the CL..missed penalties and so were luck but the rest was skill!Barca with 10 men werent exactly lucky postion to be in till FT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I know this because his CV includes a season at MK Dons and a sacking by West Brom. How many managers have a CV like that and have legitimately made the jump to Champions League winners? It doesn't happen. The stage was set and he happened to be the man in charge.Arsenal and Spurs, in context, were winnable games because neither of them were setting the world alight, and still aren't. But even if we concede those two, the rest still weren't good enough. It's no use turning up against the the big teams if you can't do the routine against the mid table and bottom dwellers (which we may have done at the start, but we were found out under RDM because he had no plan B ).I also like how you opted to ignore all the perfectly valid points I made in the rest of my post.Because I've already answered those points.And how succesful were Wenger and Fergie before they came to their clubs ? Every manager has this step in his career, the same with players.Not going to argue about Spurs and Arsenal games anymore, it's pointless because you are trying to make it as if it was Barcelona against some lower league opposition team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 And how succesful were Wenger and Fergie before they came to their clubs ?Really quite successful. Robbie's record didn't even come close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 When we all knew RDM wasn't going to last?The moment he clenched his fists at Abramovich, said the words "I did it" and Roman just.. didn't react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 When we all knew RDM wasn't going to last?The moment he clenched his fists at Abramovich, said the words "I did it" and Roman just.. didn't react.Actually once I heard that we gave him only 2 years contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 And a wonderful video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 And a wonderful video: I hope people who said firing him didn't actually matter and we should move on just watch it and think about what this guy did to all of us Chelsea fans. I remember watching that Napoli game and thinking "oh well... at least let's show some Chelsea character" at the end of the game the whole city must've known Chelsea was playing. People complained about our tactics against Bayern and Barca but Robbie found what we felt the most comfortable in. This video brought tears to my eyes because I seriously can't believe how you can treat a person like that. Especially one that has made so much for you. You can see how Roman didn't even celebrate with him or that scumbag ladyboy when he tried to get away from his hug. Man is bleeding blue and for our club to do something like that is a true disgrace. If he hadn't been gone we could have been sitthing at the 2nd spot today or go back to the top by the end of the year. 2 or 3 bad results and he gets the kick in the ass. There is a lot of talking about how Drogba won us the CL and few don't even rate the tactics of RDM but when our players hit the bad form now it's all because of Robbie. Fuck that and fuck this situation. I won't support Rafa and I won't bend in front of Roman only because he brought us glory. AVB situation was completely different because we've been shit under him for quite a few months and he managed some of the most frustrating results I've seen as a Chelsea fan. Yet he was given more time than the man who lifted us from the ground when everybody felt we wouldn't even win a game. ONE DI MATTEO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,580 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Thank You Robbie! The Revenge Has completed With Your Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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