lucio 5,418 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 he was just smiling at rafaels stupidity. i honestly wouldnt read much into it. the way he went crazy at webb was raw passion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I don't know any "people like me" - so I can't enlighten you on what they think. I can only speak for myself and give you my opinion (as much as you can give me yours). For me words like "commitment, passion and heart" mean many things, but definitely not a stupid and totally unnecessary laughing when your opponent takes you down. And no, I'm not saying he should have started crying either - just show some dignity.So when Terry kneed Sanchez in CL he automatically became a worse captain?I dont get your logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina 210 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 So when Terry kneed Sanchez in CL he automatically became a worse captain? No. I thought it was a stupid thing to do though. I dont get your logic. That's OK. I won't hold it against you :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 GK captain though. There's a few around, namely Buffon, Casillas and not so long ago Cesar.. Cech is an authority and been around a long time, why not. But I get your point though, good to have captain running up and down the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 So when Terry kneed Sanchez in CL he automatically became a worse captain?I dont get your logic.Actualy yes because captain is example to others. He is leader and needs to be calm at any problem. What Terry did was not good for the team, he let players down and shown bad personality. I understand his rage if he would of been attacked by someone or if he would be protecting team mate, but that challenge was unecessary. As for Luiz goes, I find it hilarious, but as for a captain, he has to prove other things like maturity and not just passion to the club. Even suarez has passion to lpool but no one would consider him as captain right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waiting26terry 0 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Cahill or Sam Hutchinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Cahill or Sam Hutchinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 536 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Why not cole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Cahill or Sam HutchinsonChalobah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I want David Luiz next Captain , Leader , Legend ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Why not cole?Any point in that? Both him and Terry's contract are expiring next summer and there is a strong possibility they might be released then.And even if we appoint Cole, we'll be deciding on a new captain very soon again after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 If chalobah became a regular in our team then yeah... I would love him to be captain, but i think we should give it a few years. Luiz no 1, then make chalobah no 2 When he makes it to our first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidneyfrond 6 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 David Luiz - Captain, Geezer, Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 As far as I see, there are 6 candidates to be considered for various reasons: Cech, Cole, Cahill, Ivanovic, Mata, Luiz. I've thought about it quite a bit and, well, let me break it down for you.Cech - As some people have said, it's not ideal for a goalkeeper to be captain. There is a rule that only the captain can approach the referee to prevent players from ambushing and harrassing him. A goalkeeper can't stray off his line any time he has something to say. When things get heated on the other side of the pitch, he wouldn't really be able to stick his nose into it, but having been spoilt with Terry for so long now, I've gotten used to our skipper breaking up fights and telling off opposing players. What he has going for himself though is his stature, being the last surviving member of the "old guard", intelligence, composure. He would be the opposite of Terry, so it would need some getting used to.Cole - With his shady antics, his twitter rants and all that, he doesn't make a good fit as the face of the club. I'm pretty sure the board don't want any more bad press and "bad boy" image for the club, so he's not a serious candidate. And it's questionable how much longer he'll stay here, I'd rather someone got anointed long term, instead of someone who is well past his best and doesn't have long left.Cahill - Not a regular. Hasn't really done or shown anything to be worthy of the armband. If he ever breaks through to be a permanent starter, then I'll re-evaluate him, but at the moment it's not worth going in depth with him. Though he has some qualities and certain characteristics that show potential, like, eeeem... resembling Terry, being English, well-spoken in front of the camera and stuff.Ivanovic - He's a good shout only if he makes the centre-back position his own, which he has never done. He's always been a rotational option, he's the first one to make room and the first one to come in. If Terry leaves, there's a good chance we're gonna sign a centre back and this might demote him to the bench. For the next season I can see him being a regular alongside Luiz, but I don't know where he'll be beyond next season. But there is something that Brana lacks which doesn't make me see him as a good fit for captain, I don't know what it is, but I just don't see him as a leader.Mata - He's also a good shout. He's proven his commitment to the club, he's our best player, he's very likeable, he drives the team forward, he symbolizes what this club wants to achieve and become. The only thing that can be held against him is being too nice and not vocal enough, but who says a captain needs to be a loud asshole anyway? With him as skipper he'd be a stark contrast to Terry, our image as a club would probably improve too, because everybody likes him, even our rivals. It would also be fitting for a finesse player to be the new face of the club - Terry symbolizes the old physical powerhouse Chelsea, Mata would symbolize the new era of flair.Luiz - Everything I said about Mata applies to Luiz as well. The guy played through pain in the greatest night of the history of our club and he was ready to take responsibility in case we lost, what more is there to say? In conclusion: Luiz and Mata would be my prime candidates for captaincy. I would replace Lamps and JT duo with them, because they are great personalities, they drive the team forward, they will be our leaders regardless where the armband falls. I would feel bad for Cech though, he deserves it.Also, we shouldn't be afraid to give it to a non-English player. We're a multicultural club and we should embrace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJames 729 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 As far as I see, there are 6 candidates to be considered for various reasons: Cech, Cole, Cahill, Ivanovic, Mata, Luiz. I've thought about it quite a bit and, well, let me break it down for you.Cech - As some people have said, it's not ideal for a goalkeeper to be captain. There is a rule that only the captain can approach the referee to prevent players from ambushing and harrassing him. A goalkeeper can't stray off his line any time he has something to say. When things get heated on the other side of the pitch, he wouldn't really be able to stick his nose into it, but having been spoilt with Terry for so long now, I've gotten used to our skipper breaking up fights and telling off opposing players. What he has going for himself though is his stature, being the last surviving member of the "old guard", intelligence, composure. He would be the opposite of Terry, so it would need some getting used to.Cole - With his shady antics, his twitter rants and all that, he doesn't make a good fit as the face of the club. I'm pretty sure the board don't want any more bad press and "bad boy" image for the club, so he's not a serious candidate. And it's questionable how much longer he'll stay here, I'd rather someone got anointed long term, instead of someone who is well past his best and doesn't have long left.Cahill - Not a regular. Hasn't really done or shown anything to be worthy of the armband. If he ever breaks through to be a permanent starter, then I'll re-evaluate him, but at the moment it's not worth going in depth with him. Though he has some qualities and certain characteristics that show potential, like, eeeem... resembling Terry, being English, well-spoken in front of the camera and stuff.Ivanovic - He's a good shout only if he makes the centre-back position his own, which he has never done. He's always been a rotational option, he's the first one to make room and the first one to come in. If Terry leaves, there's a good chance we're gonna sign a centre back and this might demote him to the bench. For the next season I can see him being a regular alongside Luiz, but I don't know where he'll be beyond next season. But there is something that Brana lacks which doesn't make me see him as a good fit for captain, I don't know what it is, but I just don't see him as a leader.Mata - He's also a good shout. He's proven his commitment to the club, he's our best player, he's very likeable, he drives the team forward, he symbolizes what this club wants to achieve and become. The only thing that can be held against him is being too nice and not vocal enough, but who says a captain needs to be a loud asshole anyway? With him as skipper he'd be a stark contrast to Terry, our image as a club would probably improve too, because everybody likes him, even our rivals. It would also be fitting for a finesse player to be the new face of the club - Terry symbolizes the old physical powerhouse Chelsea, Mata would symbolize the new era of flair.Luiz - Everything I said about Mata applies to Luiz as well. The guy played through pain in the greatest night of the history of our club and he was ready to take responsibility in case we lost, what more is there to say? In conclusion: Luiz and Mata would be my prime candidates for captaincy. I would replace Lamps and JT duo with them, because they are great personalities, they drive the team forward, they will be our leaders regardless where the armband falls. I would feel bad for Cech though, he deserves it.Also, we shouldn't be afraid to give it to a non-English player. We're a multicultural club and we should embrace it. Cahill - well-spoken in front of the camera and stuff.Really? I never understand most of what he says. I see 10% potential for Hazard too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I see 10% potential for Hazard too. Really? Too early to say. At the moment there's nothing to suggest he'd be a fitting candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJames 729 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Really? Too early to say. At the moment there's nothing to suggest he'd be a fitting candidate. Reason why I only gave him 10% potential . There is something to him (both for and against captaincy) that I can't place for now but I wouldn't be oppose to him as Captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Ah, I made his topic once when I first joined. I think it was deleted.FASCISTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 As far as I see, there are 6 candidates to be considered for various reasons: Cech, Cole, Cahill, Ivanovic, Mata, Luiz. I've thought about it quite a bit and, well, let me break it down for you.Cech - As some people have said, it's not ideal for a goalkeeper to be captain. There is a rule that only the captain can approach the referee to prevent players from ambushing and harrassing him. A goalkeeper can't stray off his line any time he has something to say. When things get heated on the other side of the pitch, he wouldn't really be able to stick his nose into it, but having been spoilt with Terry for so long now, I've gotten used to our skipper breaking up fights and telling off opposing players. What he has going for himself though is his stature, being the last surviving member of the "old guard", intelligence, composure. He would be the opposite of Terry, so it would need some getting used to.Cole - With his shady antics, his twitter rants and all that, he doesn't make a good fit as the face of the club. I'm pretty sure the board don't want any more bad press and "bad boy" image for the club, so he's not a serious candidate. And it's questionable how much longer he'll stay here, I'd rather someone got anointed long term, instead of someone who is well past his best and doesn't have long left.Cahill - Not a regular. Hasn't really done or shown anything to be worthy of the armband. If he ever breaks through to be a permanent starter, then I'll re-evaluate him, but at the moment it's not worth going in depth with him. Though he has some qualities and certain characteristics that show potential, like, eeeem... resembling Terry, being English, well-spoken in front of the camera and stuff.Ivanovic - He's a good shout only if he makes the centre-back position his own, which he has never done. He's always been a rotational option, he's the first one to make room and the first one to come in. If Terry leaves, there's a good chance we're gonna sign a centre back and this might demote him to the bench. For the next season I can see him being a regular alongside Luiz, but I don't know where he'll be beyond next season. But there is something that Brana lacks which doesn't make me see him as a good fit for captain, I don't know what it is, but I just don't see him as a leader.Mata - He's also a good shout. He's proven his commitment to the club, he's our best player, he's very likeable, he drives the team forward, he symbolizes what this club wants to achieve and become. The only thing that can be held against him is being too nice and not vocal enough, but who says a captain needs to be a loud asshole anyway? With him as skipper he'd be a stark contrast to Terry, our image as a club would probably improve too, because everybody likes him, even our rivals. It would also be fitting for a finesse player to be the new face of the club - Terry symbolizes the old physical powerhouse Chelsea, Mata would symbolize the new era of flair.Luiz - Everything I said about Mata applies to Luiz as well. The guy played through pain in the greatest night of the history of our club and he was ready to take responsibility in case we lost, what more is there to say? In conclusion: Luiz and Mata would be my prime candidates for captaincy. I would replace Lamps and JT duo with them, because they are great personalities, they drive the team forward, they will be our leaders regardless where the armband falls. I would feel bad for Cech though, he deserves it.Also, we shouldn't be afraid to give it to a non-English player. We're a multicultural club and we should embrace it.The only options are Luiz or Ivanovic.I just think Mata is too reserved to be our Captain. He's a top player, always shows passion for the club...but sometimes the captain will need to shout, show his ruthless side...In the game against United when Rafael kicked Luiz and Oscar started showing an invisible card to Howard Webb...Ryan Giggs saw that and he just lost the plot, starting pushing the Chelsea players...then Lamps came in and calmed down everyone....if Mata was in that situation...not sure if he'd be able to take control.Possibly Chalobah in 5-10 years time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 A captain should be the one the rest of the players look up to. Luiz has got the passion for the role but he shouldn't rant at the referee - especially over something so trivial as a throw-in. The captain is the peace-maker between the team and the ref. It may have been the tipping point of a number of decisions but it was not a good example from Luiz. At this moment, I don't think anyone is a good fit to take over captaincy from the old guard but remember though, Luiz, Mata, Hazard, Azpilicueta etc have not been here long. Things could change in a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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