Victor Moses

[Hutcho 8,443]

We can play 4-6-0 with Hazard as false 9

No we can't. and why would we want to? If gives us nothing extra except a lack of scoring options. We really want to be relying on Hazard and Mata to supply all the goals i don't. 4-2-3-1 gotta be the way to go, makes the most of everything we have in the team. No-one here has mentioned us playing a 4-6-0 formation and all of a sudden spain play it and we should be doing it.

[Sheva. 5,373]

his appearances started to tail off and other players were put in front of them.

This only happened because he wasn't playing well.

If he was, then there's no chance of Ramires or Kalou starting on the wings before him.

No we can't. and why would we want to? If gives us nothing extra except a lack of scoring options. We really want to be relying on Hazard and Mata to supply all the goals i don't. 4-2-3-1 gotta be the way to go, makes the most of everything we have in the team. No-one here has mentioned us playing a 4-6-0 formation and all of a sudden spain play it and we should be doing it.

someone mentioned us playing 4-6-0 earlier and it just came to my mind now that Hazard can be deployed as a CF.

I agree though about 4-2-3-1, or 4-3-2-1 if we don't get Hulk.

[Hutcho 8,443]

This only happened because he wasn't playing well.

If he was, then there's no chance of Ramires or Kalou starting on the wings before him.

He is better than kalou and i would have played him over kalou. Obviously he wouldn't be near Ramires, though it was very rare we played Ramires at RW as for most of the season he was in a more central position.

[Sheva. 5,373]

He is better than kalou and i would have played him over kalou. Obviously he wouldn't be near Ramires, though it was very rare we played Ramires at RW as for most of the season he was in a more central position.

He is, but Kalou got the nod primarily because of defensive duties. He hardly did anything of note going forward, but did a commendable job defensively.

[Peace. 4,352]

I need to clarify that it's more an opinion than hatred. Why some people here are so difficult or arrogant to accept different opinions.

For the last time, I don't hate Sturridge, I just dislike his attitude and don't think he is good enough for Chelsea.

It wasn't aimed specifically at you. Your opinion might not be formed out of hatred, but it appears to be a consensus to hold an anathema toward him.

Right that must be it, doesn't have anything to do with his selfishness or the way he played in the second half of last season.

I didn't say he was faultless, in the first time.

[SeB 1,281]

Your not talking about a 4-6-0 formation your simply talking about occasions when the striker has dropped back. Dzeko wouldn't count as being in a 4-6-0 formation as he is an out and out striker and a target man. Man city have never played a 4-6-0 formation.

It was an example, one more time I was just disagreeing the fact it's an impossible system to implement in Premier League or at Chelsea. It worked at Everton and when a manager implements a system, he can mix the sequences or parts he's interested in. You can expect the striker to play as a false nine when the team is in the attacking third and you can ask him to finish the actions as well: during the tournament, if Torres made something an incredible amount of times, that's asking the ball back then going into space. He's very good at it.

Just on the sequence where Pedro is bitching by selfishly missing a tap-in, Torres makes this specific move back-forward 3 times in 20 seconds.

But you can ask your striker to press the defense and behave as a real 9 when the team wants to regain the ball as well.

All is matter of instructions. 4-6-0 is not labelled "Spain" neither "boring possession football", it's a genuine tactical approach (which doesn't mean you have to change everything, just a manner to face the opponent and how he's organized at the moment) to face some teams, especially ones parking the bus

[Badboy 1,526]

I would like us to sign Victor but I think Hoilett is a better player now and he's got more potential. Hoilett will score more goals but i think Victor is a bit more skillful and he'll create more openings in tight games off the bench. We shouldn't let QPR just sign without putting a bid in because he's got great ability !

[SeB 1,281]

I would like us to sign Victor but I think Hoilett is a better player now and he's got more potential. Hoilett will score more goals but i think Victor is a bit more skillful and he'll create more openings in tight games off the bench. We shouldn't let QPR just sign without putting a bid in because he's got great ability !

I appreciate both as players. But if Hoilett is nearer to the finished product than Moses is, their mentalities isn't even comparable...

For one month, Hoilett doesn't seem to be able to agree financial terms with M'Gladbach who offers him Champions League and Reus' armchair

[Badboy 1,526]

I don't see why he should go to the German league. I fully understand that its getting better but he needs to stay in this league !

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

The right and left wing has been a problem for a long time. Once we sort that we can look at the Playmaker spot, possibly in winter. Lamps and Mikel can cope till then I hope.

They've only really been a problem for a year. Anelka and Malouda were top scorers before that. We've had striker problems for two years. I think people are massively over-selling the need for more elite offensive talent. You really only need a few guys who are going to score and a few guys who are going to be the creators. When Chelsea set the record for goals (103), we only had 4 players with more than 5 goals and 4 players with more than 5 assists. Last year, Man City, the top scoring team had 3 players with more than 6 goals (and 2 of them played the same position) and 3 players with more than 6 assists. Real Madrid scored a ridiculous 121 goals and only 3 players scored more than 5 times (and 2 of them played the same position) and only 3 had double digit assists. You're generally going to get almost all of your offensive production from 3-4 players no matter what. You need the rest of the squad to be able to play quieter roles building up and opening up play and being responsible defensively. Right now, our big question mark going into the season is Torres. If he can score regularly, Chelsea will be OK, if he can't, we'll be in big trouble again.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

umm, i dont see point in moses if we get hulk/jovetic. both are top rw though jovetic stillbwould need to learn rw as he's ss, but we can make it work. we had anelka, and kalou and studge all st's play at rw, did we suffer that much? i would argue no, not all. and we can promote a fella called KDB who could easily be backup winger or cm. why buy moses to stunt his growth? we're gettin younger and marin, hazard, hulk/jovetic, and kdb are enough with ramires comin in at tines of emergency.

moses- great talent, high cieling, not needed cuz we will sign better rw, and if we dont, then idk what the would be! moses and marin rw but then we losr sooo much prescence up top, which is why hulk or jovetic is needed.

[zolayes 14,489]

...You should be

you will need to be tougher than your tennis players and cricketers

[BlueLyon 9,359]

"RDM has plan to buy Moses in next 24hours"

That was yesterday morning news. Did we signed him or not? If yes, we might announce him on Monday.

[HNKS 508]

Cant believe people are sticking up for Sturridge. That guy has some serious ego issues. Anyway Moses could become something special. People hated on Cahill and the guy played superbly against Barca/Munich.

[SeB 1,281]

People hated on Cahill and the guy played superbly against Barca/Munich.

Completely off topic but I had concerns about Cahill and I still have ones. He's solid and commited, he's always been. But it's like if you say of a GK that he has good reflexes... we cannot judge on that. Tactically he's weak to cover his full back. And he has too much waste in his short/long distribution as well

Anyway, back on topic