Oscar

[Styles 9,790]

I think some people are finally starting to see exactly what kind of player Oscar is (they're incredibly late btw, he's been here for 18 months) and they're unhappy that he isn't the super-silky, tricky Brazilian player they thought he was. No, in fact it turns out he's a very good all-round footballer, tactically aware, hard-working player and that doesn't fit their idea of a #10. They prefer a #10 who is really good at playing through balls and creating chances. It's a matter of preference.

I'm very happy with Oscar personally and believe he will get better at creating for others. He's too good and smart not to, and what's he's contributing to the team now is more than good enough.

[manpe 10,861]

Oscar is the same age as me. I have failed at life

[bluesman2610 1,352]

Oscar in the team with Hazard and Willian and we are 2 points off the top.. I have no complaints even if he had an average game against United.. Its about what a player brings to the team and how a team performs with said player and if our results are any indication Oscar is doing very well for himself..

Also I feel we have now three balanced attackers contributing to the goals and assists unlike the last 3 seasons when we had only Mata to take over a game and if he didn't play well we were shite.. I don't think Oscar was his downfall it was the rise of other attackers to be match winners that all fit together that has really hurt Mata in terms of chances on the pitch

[borriske 330]

Funny comparing the 'oscar vs mata' debate here with the one in the mata thread. Over there it's like all hell has broken loose

[bluesman2610 1,352]

Funny comparing the 'oscar vs mata' debate here with the one in the mata thread. Over there it's like all hell has broken loose

Oscar wasn't 2 time POTY that the main reason it is Armageddon in Mata thread

[Cech's helmet 220]

I think some people are finally starting to see exactly what kind of player Oscar is (they're incredibly late btw, he's been here for 18 months) and they're unhappy that he isn't the super-silky, tricky Brazilian player they thought he was. No, in fact it turns out he's a very good all-round footballer, tactically aware, hard-working player and that doesn't fit their idea of a #10. They prefer a #10 who is really good at playing through balls and creating chances. It's a matter of preference.

I'm very happy with Oscar personally and believe he will get better at creating for others. He's too good and smart not to, and what's he's contributing to the team now is more than good enough.

It's not preference. it's common sense.

A no10 is a player who creates chances, makes the team ticking. link up play, not waste his energy chasing full backs and center backs.. like you said he's an all round player who can tackle, so it's no rocket science he should be playing in CM along with Rami while the more technically gifted player to play as a no10 (Mata)

[Stingray 9,441]

I think some people are finally starting to see exactly what kind of player Oscar is (they're incredibly late btw, he's been here for 18 months) and they're unhappy that he isn't the super-silky, tricky Brazilian player they thought he was. No, in fact it turns out he's a very good all-round footballer, tactically aware, hard-working player and that doesn't fit their idea of a #10. They prefer a #10 who is really good at playing through balls and creating chances. It's a matter of preference.

I'm very happy with Oscar personally and believe he will get better at creating for others. He's too good and smart not to, and what's he's contributing to the team now is more than good enough.

It's not preference. it's common sense.

A no10 is a player who creates chances, makes the team ticking. link up play, not waste his energy chasing full backs and center backs.. like you said he's an all round player who can tackle, so it's no rocket science he should be playing in CM along with Rami while the more technically gifted player to play as a no10 (Mata)

Or even Eden filling in as a 10 as he is doing more these days in practice while Oscar drops more and Willian goes wide more while adding movement. It equates, balances. But I do think a creative force needs to come from the attacking third central ....

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

I think some people are finally starting to see exactly what kind of player Oscar is (they're incredibly late btw, he's been here for 18 months) and they're unhappy that he isn't the super-silky, tricky Brazilian player they thought he was. No, in fact it turns out he's a very good all-round footballer, tactically aware, hard-working player and that doesn't fit their idea of a #10. They prefer a #10 who is really good at playing through balls and creating chances. It's a matter of preference.

I'm very happy with Oscar personally and believe he will get better at creating for others. He's too good and smart not to, and what's he's contributing to the team now is more than good enough.

This. He's a jack of all trades, master of none (if you exclude tackling). Incredibly balanced and smart footballer. He's hard to appreciate if you don't pay close attention to him though, which fits with that part of not being the typical flashy brazilian you said. I love his style of play.

[Roquila 1,335]

Why are people here comparing Oscar with Mata and jumpin on either bandwagons? HELL, they both play for Chelsea goddamnit. It's not like One plays for us and the other one plays for Spurs.

[yuvala 2,167]

I haven't really made up my mind about Oscar yet..

Lately he has been hit and miss. He can be very involved, winning balls back, creating chances, shooting on target.. and then the next game his shots suck, he loses possesion, doesn't get nearly as involved as he should.

When he has a good game we look really good, but he's missing consistency IMO.

[Term-X 7,891]

I wonder what his future will be when Roman sacks Jose and appoints Mata as player-manager, you know.. for the good of the game.

[Jase 43,479]

Why are people here comparing Oscar with Mata and jumpin on either bandwagons? HELL, they both play for Chelsea goddamnit. It's not like One plays for us and the other one plays for Spurs.

Yeah. We fans have our own views on the Mata and Oscar situation, which is all good and fine, but the problem is there are some within each group wants to make a petty tribalism issue out of it just because the other person have different view to theirs and are considered not to support the club at all (an example of this would be like the post above this one). These lots can't agree to disagree that each fan have different views on what is best for the club and just seem adamant in wanting to brand the other person anti/pro-Mata or Oscar.

[Styles 9,790]

It's not preference. it's common sense.

A no10 is a player who creates chances, makes the team ticking. link up play, not waste his energy chasing full backs and center backs.. like you said he's an all round player who can tackle, so it's no rocket science he should be playing in CM along with Rami while the more technically gifted player to play as a no10 (Mata)

I agree to some extent but Oscar has already shown the capacity to do that, for Chelsea and Brazil. He is at an age where his offensive game will continue to improve. Do you think he's the finished article already and that there is absolutely no scope for improvment?

[Strike 7,265]

I agree to some extent but Oscar has already shown the capacity to do that, for Chelsea and Brazil. He is at an age where his offensive game will continue to improve. Do you think he's the finished article already and that there is absolutely no scope for improvment?

I remember you saw the Mata/Oscar switch coming a year ago.

[Roquila 1,335]

Yeah. We fans have our own views on the Mata and Oscar situation, which is all good and fine, but the problem is there are some within each group wants to make a petty tribalism issue out of it just because the other person have different view to theirs and are considered not to support the club at all (an example of this would be like the post above this one). These lots can't agree to disagree that each fan have different views on what is best for the club and just seem adamant in wanting to brand the other person anti/pro-Mata or Oscar.

I understand all but the problem is that some people here are actually thinking (and saying) that because of Oscar we are selling Mata. Oscar doesn't pick the line up.

[Jase 43,479]

I understand all but the problem is that some people here are actually thinking (and saying) that because of Oscar we are selling Mata. Oscar doesn't pick the line up.

To a certain extent, it's not much of a surprise. Mata was our No.10 for the past 2 seasons and did great for us and then Mourinho came in and suddenly declared Oscar was his No.10. So, you can perhaps the see connection and argument why this is happening.

[Styles 9,790]

I remember you saw the Mata/Oscar switch coming a year ago.

I'd love to take credit for that but it really was only a matter of time. Oscar wasn't going to continue to play RW forever.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Describing Oscar?

Well he is much more than typical #10, but also much less too.

He will never reach the level of Mata when comes to individual performance. He fits the system better and obviously is class, but Mata is a #10 that Oscar simply will never be.

The main question is if we will do better with typical #10 or an all round CAM.