Barbara 15,149 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Maybe, but I feel that at least both he and Willian should not be starting together. They are similar in their deficiencies going forward and it just combines to make the attack very poor at times. Same for Ramires. Defensively they are both good but they misplace too many passes and ruin too many counters, which is how Mourinho likes us to play. It is like when we had Ballack, Lampard and Mikel starting together which I feel had the side too unbalanced in favor of resilience vs fluidity. But who knows, maybe this is Mourinho's way ? Maybe he is happy like this and wants to play a defensive game and just plan to nick a goal and then sit back against good teams ? They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, and that is what we have with Mourinho. He is what he is. Unfortunately there are few who are better and we've already wasted too many good years in managerial circuses. Had we kept Mourinho United for sure wouldn't have won as many titles these last few years as they have. On the other hand our play is really dreadful in the last minutes of these games and I feel like we are really going to come undone against a good team in the Champions League. Sigh ...I actually agree. Between the two of them I'd rather have only one in the pitch instead of both. They're too shy in the attack.I don't think Oscar in general misplaces a lot of passes. His average is over 80% for most matches, but he was awful yesterday. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cescy 40 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I actually agree. Between the two of them I'd rather have only one in the pitch instead of both. They're too shy in the attack.I don't think Oscar in general misplaces a lot of passes. His average is over 80% for most matches, but he was awful yesterday.Saw a stat that his first half passing accuracy was 45% . He finished his time in the game on 80% though tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Oscar is far more similar to Fabregas than Willian. While Fabregas has better technique, Oscar is more rounded and better at defending.Pass completion is a useful stat for players whose jobs involve keeping possession of the football. That is hardly what Oscar is on the pitch to do. Granted, his pass-completion should never go into the teens, but having a high percentage of completion means very little without realizing the quality of those passes. Was the team setup for counters or possession? That’s another big variable in taking that controversial stat – all down to not knowing what Jose told them to do.He did misplaced most if not all his through balls in the first half. Kudos to United for blocking well, but also shame on Oscar for not mixing it up a bit. However, on the second half he did much better and I reckon Jose taking him off was a mistake. He also set up a goal by making the run and brilliantly waiting until the play unfolded so Didier could get into position – shocking miss by Didier though. Cescy, Bir_CFC, DYC. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 27, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted October 27, 2014 As poor as he was yesterday, we were far poorer without him on the pitch. As soon as he came off we couldn't keep hold of the ball. That said, his passing in the final 3rd really annoys me. I mea even simple passes he was getting wrong.This one in particular pissed me off. https://mid.vncdn.co/vine/videos/14793D711C1138497838137958400_3ffca1b740e.0.0.10594276347886385080.mp4Such an easy pass and gets the weight of it woefully wrong and forces Eden away from the goal. bababoom, laura90, Bir_CFC and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 As poor as he was yesterday, we were far poorer without him on the pitch. As soon as he came off we couldn't keep hold of the ball. That said, his passing in the final 3rd really annoys me. I mea even simple passes he was getting wrong.This one in particular pissed me off. https://mid.vncdn.co/vine/videos/14793D711C1138497838137958400_3ffca1b740e.0.0.10594276347886385080.mp4Such an easy pass and gets the weight of it woefully wrong and forces Eden away from the goal.He actually does that a lot. Messing up the weight of his ground passes. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yes, he had a bad game, but it's just one game, FFS. I'm not Oscar's biggest fan, but he was wonderful in the previous 4-5 matches. Hopefully it was just a one-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 As poor as he was yesterday, we were far poorer without him on the pitch. As soon as he came off we couldn't keep hold of the ball. That said, his passing in the final 3rd really annoys me. I mea even simple passes he was getting wrong.This one in particular pissed me off. https://mid.vncdn.co/vine/videos/14793D711C1138497838137958400_3ffca1b740e.0.0.10594276347886385080.mp4Such an easy pass and gets the weight of it woefully wrong and forces Eden away from the goal.To be fair there were worst passes from him yesterday. I was more annoyed with the one which was intercepted by a Utd defender before it reached Drogba because he didn't put enough power in it. It would have been a great chance. TheOneChan95, Barbara, Chelsea Legend 11 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 As poor as he was yesterday, we were far poorer without him on the pitch. As soon as he came off we couldn't keep hold of the ball. That said, his passing in the final 3rd really annoys me. I mea even simple passes he was getting wrong.This one in particular pissed me off. https://mid.vncdn.co/vine/videos/14793D711C1138497838137958400_3ffca1b740e.0.0.10594276347886385080.mp4Such an easy pass and gets the weight of it woefully wrong and forces Eden away from the goal.That is just so bad; it's even worse than I remembered it. It should be the most simple of simple passes and yet he completely and utterly destroys the chance. That's the kind of pass you expect even average players to make with their eyes closed. Inexcusable stuff really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Boyukliev 32 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Time for him to spend another period on the bench. Willian was way more useful than him in my opinion. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Don't really get the hype for Willian. He beats defenders 3/4 of the time and then crosses the ball into noman's land. Azpinator, Barbara, Amblève. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Don't really get the hype for Willian. He beats defenders 3/4 of the time and then crosses the ball into noman's land.3/4 is a generous estimate. If he gets it past them they usually recover anyway before he's decided what to do with the ball. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 3/4 is a generous estimate. If he gets it past them they usually recover anyway before he's decided what to do with the ball.True. Seeing pacey players not making use of their speed is always such a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 True. Seeing pacey players not making use of their speed is always such a shame.This may sound harsh, but Willian is basically Lennon with a much better work rate. Moros 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I can't think of any Chelsea player that has been more overrated than Oscar. I don't think I'll ever see great attacking player in him despite some glorious free kicks, goals and assists now and then. He shouldn't be near the final three/ four in the team aspiring to achieve something in Europa against Real, Barca, Bayern, in particular. To be fair, the same can be said about Willian, Schurrle ( maybe even Ramires) but none of these players are nearly as appreciated as Oscar is.He will come handy against smaller teams, when he can do what he does best, hustling opposition while he has Hazard, Fabregas and Costa to do attacking work and score goals.But top teams, who find the way to mark Fabregas, will probably expose the real Oscar - the one almost ineffective in attacking sense.That is if he plays. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! bluesman2610 1,417 Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted October 28, 2014 I find it funny when hes playing well creating goals and scoring the people who dislike him have nothing to say as soon as he has a poor game out of the woodwork they come to attack him.. how about we continue to support our players we are still unbeaten in PL and CL so far and hes played a part in that Barbara, Daniel1980, Joker10 and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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