Rumoured Luke Shaw

[OneMoSalah 8,785]

Lol I said it before and I'll say it again £30 million for a 18 year old full back is just horrible business even if hes going to be a future England international for the next 15 years or not. Who the hell pays over £20m for a fullback bar Real Madrid cause they are stupid cunts? I still find it hard to believe we payed 15 or 16m/however much it was for Jose Bosingwa.

[The Chels 2,502]

Seems like the whole Shaw family are Chelsea fans! His dad tweeted:

Paul shaw @paul_shaw3 Follow

Should b a top game tonight #comeonyoublues

[BloodIsBlue 291]

Think Kieran's point is that Azpi is a better RB than Ivanovic going forward (both still defensively sound) and rather than playing the former at LB and stifling his ability to go forward/cause damage in the final third, why not play him in his natural position at RB where he can do damage? After all, it's not like Ivanovic has exactly shone going forward at RB and doubt playing him at LB will make much of a difference compare to if Azpi were to be played at the RB.

You play right footed left back to invite the cross and resist the inverted run. Ivanovic isn't quick enough to quell the inverted run so they'll just be making him look like a pylon. With Azpi, he's quick enough to stamp out the inverted run and if lets in the cross we have essentially a third center-back there to defend. We are playing lopsided defense with of LB/RB and it works until you put the slower guy on the left side because they are both right footed. Even as RB Ivanovic always, always, always lets people cross over him now imagine he had to stop crosses with his left foot? I never ever want to see Ivanovic on the left side, I will not watch. We can only have fullbacks going forward if the defense has no holes and the leftback position with Ivanovic would be a black hole!

[The only place to be 11,313]

Be interesting to see where Moye's dismissal leaves the Shaw transfer. With us you know there's always people like Emenalo who are involved in recruitment but I wonder who fills that void at United now. Clearly Moyes had some input on their deals with him getting Fellaini and apparently scouting potential targets so one wonders if the new guy might want something different.

One less club in the race would be beneficial.

[Jase 43,479]

Manchester United set to beat Chelsea in £30m deal for Luke Shaw

United are apparently offering £100,000 p/w wages on a five-year contract and Shaw is tempted by it...

[JDY 1,290]

£30m and 100k p/w is being reported at the moment.

They are so desperate

Edit: whs ^

[Jype 6,398]

Gutted if we miss out on him but got to laugh at the lengths United are willing to go here. In what world is an 18-year-old LB worth 30m pounds and 100k a week? I thought it was us who are supposed to be ruining football...

Buy Ricardo Rodriguez from Wolfsburg if Shaw isn't available without breaking the bank. I've always rated him just a little higher than Shaw (a couple of years older though) but still preferred Shaw for the fact he is a Chelsea fan and would qualify as a homegrown player but surely the lad isn't worth as much as United are supposedly willing to pay.

[Pizy 18,418]

Ridiculous numbers there. As much as I like the kid and would love to have him here, that's silly money. There are a couple of highly rated young LB's out there that probably wouldn't cost half of that. Come on, £30m for a teenage LB!? That's nearly as much as Hazard who was already a proven player and had superstar potential.

I'm still of the belief that if we really want him and offer a nice wage packet he'll come. The rumored fee that United are offering is the only way I can see him choosing them over us. If the money is too silly to turn down. Paying striker or top midfielder money for a LB would be bad business for us.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

The only way I can see that £30 million fee being true is with add ons such as international appearances and trophies won. Otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever.

[zolayes 14,489]

Manchester United set to beat Chelsea in £30m deal for Luke Shaw

United are apparently offering £100,000 p/w wages on a five-year contract and Shaw is tempted by it...

who offered that Moyes or Giggs or Scholes or .................

[Special Juan 27,439]

100k a week for an 18 year old and 30M price tag......deary me.

[Pizy 18,418]

100k a week for an 18 year old and 30M price tag......deary me.

You can probably buy world class, ready made players in certain positions for that amount.

Absurd money. How terrible would it make them look if they bought Shaw for £30m and we opted for Rodriguez for significantly less and they ended up being equally good or Rodriguez was even better?

We just bought Azpi for £7m and he's now the best fullback in the league. He's young and a Spanish international. Luke Shaw may sell for more than £20m more.

[Jase 43,479]

This situation will, I guess, tells us how much he's a proper Chelsea fan.....

[Tomo 21,733]

The general concensus seems to be 30m is too much, while it seems steep other factors have to be considered.

Look at Ferdinand (yes he is a cunt that's not the point) back in 2002 he went to United as a 30m CENTRE BACK, 12 years, 6 titles and a CL medal later who's laughing now? Even looking beyond that, he has been a vital part off their spine all this time and the homegrown core every club needs.

Factor in the fact that Shaw is homegrown, a local lad, adds to our HG quota and could give us 12-13 years off world class service and even beyond that could potentially do a JT/Giggs/Maldini (by that i mean even past their peak still offer a lot in terms off priceless experience).

Price may seem a bit steep right now, but we won't be saying that at his testimonial.

[Jase 43,479]

The general concensus seems to be 30m is too much, while it seems steep other factors have to be considered.

Look at Ferdinand (yes he is a cunt that's not the point) back in 2002 he went to United as a 30m CENTRE BACK, 12 years, 6 titles and a CL medal later who's laughing now? Even looking beyond that, he has been a vital part off their spine all this time and the homegrown core every club needs.

Factor in the fact that Shaw is homegrown, a local lad, adds to our HG quota and could give us 12-13 years off world class service and even beyond that could potentially do a JT/Giggs/Maldini (by that i mean even past their peak still offer a lot in terms off priceless experience).

Price may seem a bit steep right now, but we won't be saying that at his testimonial.

Thing is though, there is the FFP now and crucially, a more pressing concern within the squad to spend 30m elsewhere than on a LB..

[bababoom 4,478]

This situation will, I guess, tells us how much he's a proper Chelsea fan.....

It's not really up to him though, Southampton want 30m for him, we're not willing to pay that much but United are.

[Tomo 21,733]

Thing is though, there is the FFP now and crucially, a more pressing concern within the squad to spend 30m elsewhere than on a LB..

We will probably have about 40m off club generated money to spend, also factor in the potential departures off Luiz, Ba, Mikel, Torres (please god) aswell as the loanee's we decide to let go permanently, will probably bring us 50 (possibly more kf Barca give us big bucks for Luiz).

Also we have about 10m left over from the Mata/KDB sales, so i reckon we will probably have about a 100m kitty this summer, potentially more if we win CL.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

This situation will, I guess, tells us how much he's a proper Chelsea fan.....

I wouldn't blame him for flocking to the 100k/week deal, I would do it too.

We will probably have about 40m off club generated money to spend, also factor in the potential departures off Luiz, Ba, Mikel, Torres (please god) aswell as the loanee's we decide to let go permanently, will probably bring us 50 (possibly more kf Barca give us big bucks for Luiz).

Also we have about 10m left over from the Mata/KDB sales, so i reckon we will probably have about a 100m kitty this summer, potentially more if we win CL.

We're not selling Luiz!