Politics & Stuff

[incometax 116]

Its funny that one of the reasons hamas shoots rockets into israel, knowing israel will respond, is to than defame them and labell them as agressors in the internatonal community. Its the only tool they have vs israel. Its convient that pali's are always looking for a picture perfect shot to than post on internet or twitter to make israel look bad. Heres my evidence of their attempted provkation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHHQArtFxOA

Palestine refuses to reconize jewish state and our brought up to hate and always fight israel(the entire west by extension). Just look how indoctornated the children are. Tell me again who the aggressors are?

[incometax 116]

http://rememberthese...member2000.html

RIP. :'(

Fuck Israel. Nothing against Israelis, but I can't stand the fucking terror state.

Can you detail to me what exactly consistutes Israel as a terror state, rather than linking this website anyone could of made?

[Azpinator 2,325]

but palestineans(aka just southern syrians) stayed in the west bank because they had no choice. If they left to neighbooring arab countires they were not aloud citizenship in the country, nor healthcare or educational rights.

I don't want to get into the whole thing but just for the record, Palestinians are not "just southern Syrians". Palestinians have almost the same accent to most Jordanians and far more alike than Southern Syrians'. And I know many of Palestinian (even Iraqi) people that live in my country, now they may not have citizenship, but we went to the same school for example, all equal. My country treats those people like any other Syrian.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Really pointless to get into this stuff on here. Nobody is going to change their minds about it. Better off sticking to football!!

[Rmpr 8,977]

Really pointless to get into this stuff on here. Nobody is going to change their minds about it. Better off sticking to football!!

Well, actually this is the place to talk about it. I agree though, neither side is saint nor is totally right, pointless discussion.

[Spike 12,049]

The notion that Israel only retaliates is completely ridiculous. Here is a quick history lesson: Only a hundred years ago Israel did not exist and the parents of the current inhabitants were scattered all over the world and had no idea that they were Israelians (not a word, but you get what I mean).

Israel/Judea has existed almost as long as the jews themselves. The jews themselves being the original inhabitants. Buuuut, in saying that they conquered over 2500 years ago and Israel/Judea hasn't really been Jewish since. Besides, what a Jew is has evolved in those years, what once was a country, ethnicity and religion all rolled into one has changed immensly. Since, so much has changed concerning what a Jew is, I don't believe they have the right to the land, but they definfintely were the first inhabitants.

I don't agree with what either the Israeli or the Palenstine governments does or plans to do. The are both terrible, reggardless of retaliation, aggression, which side has the most guns, etc. They both do terrible things to eachother and I can't see why people would want to side with one or the other. There is no moral victor, no moral supperiority, just violence.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

You know the tragically funny thing about Isreal-Palestine?

If Israel had just abide by the boundaries set out to them, which the Palestinians were in favor of, this could have all been avoided. The fact that Palestine is not even recognized as a country is disgraceful. Free Palestine. Free Kashmir. Free Africa.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Well, actually this is the place to talk about it. I agree though, neither side is saint nor is totally right, pointless discussion.

i wouldn't call it pointless. Even if opinions dont change and each side has its faults.

[Kieran. 6,317]

You know the tragically funny thing about Isreal-Palestine?

If Israel had just abide by the boundaries set out to them, which the Palestinians were in favor of, this could have all been avoided. The fact that Palestine is not even recognized as a country is disgraceful. Free Palestine. Free Kashmir. Free Africa.

FACT.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Unfortunately it's Britains fault historically - as with so many other problems post Great era.

Until both sides learn to negotiate there will be no end to this mindless violence and needless death.

If Israel are provoked they will respond!

Whoever decided the best form of negotation is a rocket is to blame!

Firing rockets to change a situation will do nothing but escalate.

If both sides are serious about this, they need to sit down and determine reasonable objectives. Israel already relocated 9000+ people and changed the boundary, this still wasn't good enough - time for a reality check!

Israel could flatten Palestine, but won't because of international pressure, every single country in the world has been invaded and borders changed - it's just an arbitrary process - just deal with what you have, focus on improving your people's lives instead of spending the money on weapons!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

@incometax, there is no hope that we will agree on anything so I won't reply to your many many historical and logical mistakes. But just for the record, my state might not be leading the world in technology and 'democracy' ( ) but at least we don't kill innocent children and women and if Israel is represents 'innovation' then you can shove innovation up your ass.

Israel/Judea has existed almost as long as the jews themselves. The jews themselves being the original inhabitants. Buuuut, in saying that they conquered over 2500 years ago and Israel/Judea hasn't really been Jewish since. Besides, what a Jew is has evolved in those years, what once was a country, ethnicity and religion all rolled into one has changed immensly. Since, so much has changed concerning what a Jew is, I don't believe they have the right to the land, but they definfintely were the first inhabitants.

I don't agree with what either the Israeli or the Palenstine governments does or plans to do. The are both terrible, reggardless of retaliation, aggression, which side has the most guns, etc. They both do terrible things to eachother and I can't see why people would want to side with one or the other. There is no moral victor, no moral supperiority, just violence.

That is very true. To add even more, most of the original Jew inhabitants turned Christian when Jesus arrived and then most of those converted to Islam after Mohammed. It is true that there were still Jews in Palestine a hundred years ago, but they were a minority. So most of the descendants of the original inhabitants of Israel were, rather ironically, killed and exiled from Israel in 1948. The Jew immigration to Palestine during the British colonization era is a well documented fact, denying it is beyond delusional.

As for taking sides, well I personally had little choice. You can't really not take sides when your countries gets invaded every other year and people you know get killed. Israel occupied the south of Lebanon for about 20 years, they even reached and occupied Beirut in 1982. They had huge prison camp to torture and kill anyone they didn't like. Up until 2006, Israel would come into Lebanon, kidnap people, assassinate other, and blow up buildings on almost a monthly basis. And when the people being killed, tortured and blown are relatives or friends, you tend to side against the people killing them.

Though the situation has changed since Iran started backing and arming the Islamic resistance in Lebanon. They created what is called a 'balance of terror'. No one in the middle east can ever match up to Israel's fire power, but what that basically means is that they are afraid of Hizbullah's missiles as much as we are afraid of their aircrafts, warships, and highly advanced missiles...cowards

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

A lull from the inevitable slaughter of Palestinians coming-

Thought for the day ;

A third of the world’s entire food supply could be saved by reducing waste – or enough to feed 3 billion people.

In Australia it is estimated that food waste makes up half of that country’s landfill

[Rmpr 8,977]

Thought for the day ;

A third of the world’s entire food supply could be saved by reducing waste – or enough to feed 3 billion people.

In Australia it is estimated that food waste makes up half of that country’s landfill

We produce enough food to feed 11 billion people by UN prameters of nutrients necessary for one day of normal life.

[Kieran. 6,317]

$30 Billion of US Aid will be going to Israel. I am so sorry Palestine...:'(

[BlueLyon 9,359]

War is only a way to make lot of profit. Nothing else. Innocent always take the short way. Fuck governments!