The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

 

[Superblue 6,370]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

But there's a new format coming and look at that second point...

 

Yep, like I said before, one league of 36 teams so you won't even play everybody. How is that remotely fair? If you're competing against teams in a league format you have to play everybody in it for fairness.

And I saw point 2 the other day. That was UEFA's pathetic attempt to pander to these elite clubs. Like has been argued over the last couple of days everything should be achieved on merit. I hope they retract that one.

[Fernando 6,453]

7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Who knows what happened behind closed doors? Ceferin is godfather to Agnelli daughter. Maybe they are all playing the game. Even Perez sounded like that last night we he said we will speak with UEFA.

And today this news. UEFA increases the budget dramatically so clubs get what they wanted from the start. It is all the game and this played major part not fans protesting. Also it is interesting how fans are much more angry in England. Very quiet in Spain and Italy.

I agree something does not sit well with all this. The way it came out is so suspicious. 

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

Privileged always want more privilege. Take @Jason for example. He as a admin made himself invincible and we cannot see when was he last time online. We regular hard working people cannot do this. Match thread for WH still not open, cannot vote for MOTM anymore. Surely worth protesting? 🤣

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

23 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Who knows what happened behind closed doors? Ceferin is godfather to Agnelli daughter. Maybe they are all playing the game. Even Perez sounded like that last night we he said we will speak with UEFA.

And today this news. UEFA increases the budget dramatically so clubs get what they wanted from the start. It is all the game and this played major part not fans protesting. Also it is interesting how fans are much more angry in England. Very quiet in Spain and Italy.

 Ceferin has called Agnelli everything under the sun in the last 2/3 days, I think that bridge is burned. Rumours are he is also considering resigning from Juventus heavily after this.

Tbf if Juventus come out of the super league, if they want their say to be heard now they may need to remove that gobshite from his position and appoint someone else. Same with all these clubs. These guys are effectively tainted now. Woodward is the first to go, Agnelli could be next, dont rule out changes in the 6 PL clubs board rooms yet either.

Fans are definitely not happy in other leagues, don’t know where you heard that they are quiet from. Particularly Spain where they have always been fed up of Perez and his constant scheming and plotting. 

It is disappointing that its money orientated again but not breaking off and keeping the CL and domestic leagues is a step in the right direction. I do not like the reform though again it gives more assurances and opportunities to bigger clubs, the fact that the likes of clubs like Celtic, Rangers, Ajax, PSV etc. will undoubtedly get shafted for money is not ideal. Its again based on reputation and UEFA coefficient. I don’t believe anyone who doesnt finish in the top slots to qualify for the CL in all the corresponding leagues should have to risk missing out because Arsenal and Spurs had bad seasons. Or Roma or whoever: Or clubs like Celtic in the past had to play 3/4 rounds of qualification despite winning the league trophy. It will come into play in 2024 and I would think there will be more changes proppsed prior to that. I mean I get the bigger leagues having more slots maybe but why should 4th place in a PL warrant an automatic qualification spot ahead of actual league champions in some countries!? Why not make 4th place teams play off against other teams who are in qualification places in other leagues prior? Your still going to have the spectacle of big games but your also going to manage to fairly include some of these clubs who are winners and get fucked over so 4/5th place teams can get in for nothing.

Edited April 20, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Privileged always want more privilege. Take @Jason for example. He as a admin made himself invincible and we cannot see when was he last time online. We regular hard working people cannot do this. Match thread for WH still not open, cannot vote for MOTM anymore. Surely worth protesting? 🤣

Nobody is stopping you from forming your own Chelsea Super Forum...

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

 It will come into play in 2024 and I would think there will be more changes proppsed prior to that. I mean I get the bigger leagues having more slots maybe but why should 4th place in a PL warrant an automatic qualification spot ahead of actual league champions in some countries!? 

Yes, also after 3rd UEFA competition start next season just clubs from 15 best ranked countries will play in Europa League. So this is bad for +30 European countries.

[Superblue 6,370]

Statement has just come in from the club. "As reported earlier this evening..."

@Jason must have checked our conversation first I guess?!

Pretty poor effort to be honest. The "Having joined late last week" has been spun out already and seems to be an attempt to try and wash our hands of the set up of this (which I still think us and City will be forgiven much easier than the others).

I'd like to hope something a bit more detailed is released tomorrow which is less formal and a genuine apology to our fanbase and the wider football community. I said it earlier, to be fair to Arsenal, they're the only ones currently to really apologise properly.

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

As reported earlier this evening, Chelsea Football Club can confirm that it has begun the formal procedures for withdrawal from the group developing plans for a European Super League.

Having joined the group late last week, we have now had time to consider the matter fully and have decided that our continued participation in these plans would not be in the best interests of the Club, our supporters or the wider football community.

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Statement has just come in from the club. "As reported earlier this evening..."

@Jason must have checked our conversation first I guess?!

Pretty poor effort to be honest. The "Having joined late last week" has been spun out already and seems to be an attempt to try and wash our hands of the set up of this (which I still think us and City will be forgiven much easier than the others).

I'd like to hope something a bit more detailed is released tomorrow which is less formal and a genuine apology to our fanbase and the wider football community. I said it earlier, to be fair to Arsenal, they're the only ones currently to really apologise properly.

Just saw the statement. It’s pathetic!

Didn’t even acknowledge the mistake and didn’t even fucking apologize! 

And they only considered the matter fully after joining the ESL? Like WTF?!?!

[Superblue 6,370]

Just now, Jason said:

Just saw the statement. It’s pathetic!

Didn’t even acknowledge the mistake and didn’t even fucking apologize! 

And they only considered the matter fully after joining the ESL? Like WTF?!?!

On one hand they're statement is no different to everyone else's besides Arsenal's and as I've mentioned before, I think us and City have leaked/briefed the press pretty well the last couple of days to try and navigate this mess and exonerate our involvements as best as humanly possible.

But I'd love the club to just own the mistake and make a proper apology. Maybe there's something to come tomorrow, it's incredibly late and maybe they felt they just needed something put out there. Ultimately though the feeling is somebody needs to be held accountable within the club for this...and it won't be Roman!

[chippy 342]

For me personally, the statement is enough. Just want to move on from this sorry shambles.

Having said that, I do now genuinely think the time is now right for Roman to sell up. We're stagnating or even going backwards as a club now and I cannot see us ever seriously challenging for the title again with Roman in charge. Just making  more wrong decisions than right ones these days, with his team making far too many crap signings and managers who are not up to it for one reason or another. Also the collapse of the new stadium and his problems with our government. 

Would be forever grateful for everything he's done for our club, but nothing lasts forever and now is as good a time as any for a fresh start for our club.

 

[DDA 9,690]

3 hours ago, chippy said:

For me personally, the statement is enough. Just want to move on from this sorry shambles.

Having said that, I do now genuinely think the time is now right for Roman to sell up. We're stagnating or even going backwards as a club now and I cannot see us ever seriously challenging for the title again with Roman in charge. Just making  more wrong decisions than right ones these days, with his team making far too many crap signings and managers who are not up to it for one reason or another. Also the collapse of the new stadium and his problems with our government. 

Would be forever grateful for everything he's done for our club, but nothing lasts forever and now is as good a time as any for a fresh start for our club.

 

Be careful what you wish for. Just look at Arsenal. That's all I'm going to say.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

[Blues Forever 1,232]

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Edited April 21, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Atomiswave 6,072]

Disgusted by DM, not one article how we pulled out first and the rest followed suit. Instead they are calling shik Mansour the svaiour of footy lmao.........go spit DM.

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

On one hand they're statement is no different to everyone else's besides Arsenal's and as I've mentioned before, I think us and City have leaked/briefed the press pretty well the last couple of days to try and navigate this mess and exonerate our involvements as best as humanly possible.

But I'd love the club to just own the mistake and make a proper apology. Maybe there's something to come tomorrow, it's incredibly late and maybe they felt they just needed something put out there. Ultimately though the feeling is somebody needs to be held accountable within the club for this...and it won't be Roman!

C'mon now, stop trying to give the club an excuse for such a pathetic statement. They had hours to come out with a decent statement and they couldn't even have the decency to acknowledge the mistake and apologize.

2 hours ago, DDA said:

Be careful what you wish for. Just look at Arsenal. That's all I'm going to say.

Exactly. Compared to the owners of the other big clubs out there, Roman is generally better than most, if not all. 

[manpe 10,861]

13 hours ago, manpe said:

I don't think the Super League is going to happen, at least not in the currently proposed form. Far too much pressure against it for it to go through imo.

Called it 😎