The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[Blue Armour 4,176]

Like @Magic Lamps said, these founder clubs and UEFA are most definitely going to reach a compromise. The latest ESL announcement is nothing but an opening shot. It's been a long time coming. Ever since Spurs and City started breaking into the top 4, the power players have been trying to protect their nest. FFP was one of the first signs. Now you have clubs like Newcastle also looking at getting foreign investment, to break into the elite circle that doesnt really want more competition. The one certainty in all this is that the current Champions league format is most definitely going to change.

What I'm more worried about is the timing of this announcement and how it could potentially affect our remaining games this season. Refereeing decisions, and the rest are all likely going to come into question.

I doubt that they will go to the extreme of docking points (not without warning at least) or kicking teams out of existing competitions, but this goes beyond that.

Will managers like Tuchel still want to be involved in something like this? Hope he and the team are able to shut out all the noise and keep themselves 100% focused on the remaining games., at least for this season.

Pre match conferences are going to be very interesting over the next few weeks.

[NikkiCFC 7,624]

lol 76% of City fans voted on poll they will not attend games anymore.... We have this proverb in my country, it goes something like this... Whore about honesty...

Edited April 19, 2021 by NikkiCFC

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47 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I expect top6 to stay in PL but it is not going to be the same. If you are not in the title race and we saw that can happen after just 2 months of the season, games will lose value. No fighting for top4, top6 etc... All eyes will be on Super League.  

and what will we gain by being lets say in the semi-finals of the super league? more money?

i, for example dont care about the money at all. so, since we will be out from the race for a pl champion in november, why would i care about the team until august, since if we are unable to win the pl, theres a decent chance we will not win the super league either.

for me, the super league will be on the level of the carabao or fa cup when speaking in terms of excitement and giving fucks. so very very close to zero. 

[NikkiCFC 7,624]

This is how cartel bosses run their business.

Taken from James Corbett on twitter, who claims to have seen a copy of the "Super League Document".
 

• The plan would guarantee massive income to a 15 club elite and cement financial gaps not only between those competing in the Super league and those not, but within it. The plan envisages one off payments of up to €350 million to the fifteen founder members, but only six clubs would receive the full amount with five of the initial members receiving just €100 or €112.5 million.

 

• The 15 breakaway clubs have generously deigned to allow 5 merit based qualifiers each season. But the system is totally skewed against them. They have no say in running the Super League and are entirely excluded from a commercial pot worth 15% of income. Moreover, there is an 'equal' share of revenue that is not equal at all. The qualifiers are excluded from half of this pot of money (worth around €1.85 BILLION)

 

• At the same time, the organisers have shown their contempt for rewarding sporting success. You get given a ton of money for playing (about €180m for the group stage), but prize money is quite small - worth perhaps €30m extra for winning it. Which is small change, really. If you win the Champions League, by contrast, you earn about €120million - or 300% more than just making the group stage

 

• At the same time, if, say Leicester or Everton, were to qualify and actually win it - despite everything being skewed against them - they would earn around half the amount Barca or Real would be guaranteed JUST FOR COMPETING IN THE GROUP STAGE. Essentially this has been devised by a cabal of greedy, stupid and desperate individuals who care nothing about football, competitiveness or the sustainability of the game. It will kill domestic football and create a boring spectacle skewed in favour of a Super League 'big 6

Edited April 19, 2021 by NikkiCFC

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2 hours ago, Mana said:

Won’t happen. These are big clubs. Where are they going to? Burnley?

Why not. So will the fans. Atleast these clubs are not sell outs. 

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they would be, given the chance. 

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I will still be a Chelsea fan, still love the game, but I hope the lower leagues don't get screwed.

[NikkiCFC 7,624]

Teams like Leicester have been better than Arsenal last couple of years. I am afraid this will not be the case anymore.

[NikkiCFC 7,624]

On Forbes list of top50 most valuable sports teams you have just 7 football clubs.

Real 6th

Barca 8th

United 10th

Bayern 24th

City 34th

Chelsea 37th

Arsenal 47th

Something is clearly wrong here because football is by far most popular sport in the world. I think for clubs money is most important so this Americanization of football should put them on top.

They want to do this because UEFA was not able to do it. We dont care about this but our board must ask why teams in American football from small American cities with less than 1m population are worth more than global brand like our club. Denver Broncos, Indianapolis Colts, Minnesota Vikings, Baltimore Ravens... Even same baseball teams we never heard of are worth more... Yankees are kings of marketing and making money. Football is watching 4 billion people in the world and how much people watch baseball and NFL? Outside of USA not popular sports at all. Yet they make more money.

 

 

 

Edited April 19, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[chelsea_4_eva 1,144]

tbh uefa are only acting this fast because their money is at jeopardy

Edited April 19, 2021 by chelsea_4_eva

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https://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/1383902999089618950?s=20

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Can't believe the statement on the Chelsea site about the instability in the economic model due to pandemic when we have spent 200m on players. Disgusting stand taken by Chelsea and the rest of them.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Strike

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

On Forbes list of top50 most valuable sports teams you have just 7 football clubs.

Real 6th

Barca 8th

United 10th

Bayern 24th

City 34th

Chelsea 37th

Arsenal 47th

Something is clearly wrong here because football is by far most popular sport in the world. I think for clubs money is most important so this Americanization of football should put them on top.

They want to do this because UEFA was not able to do it. We dont care about this but our board must ask why teams in American football from small American cities with less than 1m population are worth more than global brand like our club. Denver Broncos, Indianapolis Colts, Minnesota Vikings, Baltimore Ravens... Even same baseball teams we never heard of are worth more... Yankees are kings of marketing and making money. Football is watching 4 billion people in the world and how much people watch baseball and NFL? Outside of USA not popular sports at all. Yet they make more money.

 

 

 

Do you watch US sports? Do you know what happened to Lakers for almost a decade before the last sesson. Or bulls since Jordan. 

Most of these franchises are cash cows to the owners. There is no relegation, there is guaranteed success, hell they are even incentivized for failing dreadfully by giving a higher draft pick year after year. 

If this goes through, clubs like arsenal will be FINISHED. Kroenke is not going to invest a dime of his money in the club when he is Guaranteed an "elite status". 

Domestic league will have no meaning for most of the teams after 2 months as 2nd place will be worth as much as 17th. Games will lose value, players will stop caring (happens every year in nba when they just "tank"). 

Read about Orlando magic and what they did this season by trading away their 3 best players, just for a better draft pick. 

This americanization of football will not be the death of football. It will just create a power vaccum which will be taken up by uefa and fifa. True fans of football will shift allegiance to a club better placed morally while fa and the governing bodies crack down on owners and internal investments so that this never happens again. 

But most of the clubs which have pledged allegiance to the devils won't make it out without being bruised and battered, either by fans, or by uefa or by their own owners. 

Don't make this out to be the perfect solution to the uefa/fifa problem cause it's not. It's a cash grab by Yankee billionaires and power hungry whores and smacks of entitlementism. Only way out of it is absolute and complete black out of this event by fans, players, managers. 

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This is gonna end footy as we know it, im ashamed Chels got involved in this. Just alone the cunts mentioned who will be running this shit is enough in it self. And what EU pedigree does spurs and arsenal have since they deserve to be invited permamently? Ohh they have US owners. CL still needs a radical change imo but this is anti footy and RA should be ashamed. And fuck those US bastards behind this, fuck glazers and those mafia scum in juve.

[nyikolajevics 2,449]

Looks like most people are against of this super league but I’m curious about it..

 

As everything, football also needs new formats sometimes. I don’t believe current Champions League is the perfect format which we should stick to forever. Of course, this super league might not be working, but why not try?

 

CL is getting kinda boring. Hundreds of teams in Europe’s leagues can qualify, 32 teams can make it to the group stages but still pretty much the same teams make it to final 16/8 every year, why not try to skip the “playing against eastern European teams” part? I know it’s important and delightfup for some people, Hungarian side Ferencvaros made it to group stage this season which I loved but they never had a chance for a second, for Barcelona and Juventus it was a waste of time to play against them. 
 

Maybe it’d be better to see top players against top players every week instead of watching top teams destroying Krasnodar/Crneva Zvezda/Young Boys with their B-sides.

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Wenger is a true visionary 

 

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