OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I would gladly sell Ramires if it meant getting Pogba.And play him where? Ramires so far has started one game this season - against Everton, which is a big game in my eyes. We will rarely use 4-3-3 apart from in the bigger games, is it really worth buying Pogba to play 4-3-3 in the big games when its blatantly obvious that Fabregas will play next to Matic with Oscar or Willian as number 10 in most games? Pogba would be a luxury signing, we've got an established team and set up, predominately playing 4-2-3-1 in the smaller games and looking at how we set up against Everton, 4-3-3 in bigger games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 And play him where? Ramires so far has started one game this season - against Everton, which is a big game in my eyes. We will rarely use 4-3-3 apart from in the bigger games, is it really worth buying Pogba to play 4-3-3 in the big games when its blatantly obvious that Fabregas will play next to Matic with Oscar or Willian as number 10 in most games? Pogba would be a luxury signing, we've got an established team and set up, predominately playing 4-2-3-1 in the smaller games and looking at how we set up against Everton, 4-3-3 in bigger games. Pogba could do what Oscar does. He doesn't operate as a 10 anyways. we don't have a traditional 10, plus Pogba could do what Oscar does, but better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I don't get why we would spend 60M in a player that we don't even need in the first place...Did I miss the memo where it was said we have a midfield issue? You spend this exorbitant amount of money in a position you desperately need to strengthen.Squawka just had an article asking if Matic + Cesc is the best midfield in England... They need to make adjustments because Cesc is new in the team and we've clearly changed our system. But I think it's bewildering to think Mourinho would break the bank for a player that could, possibly, maybe improve us some.Cesc's best position is playing as a #8, to replace Oscar for Cesc and have Pogba as the #8, it makes no sense because we're moving one of our best players (Cesc) out of this best position to accommodate someone that won't offer what he does there. When Mourinho wants more physicality in the team as well as pace then Oscar offers, we switch to a 4-3-3 with Ramires... Pogba could play where Oscar plays, but he isn't as tactical, he can do some things better, but his tactical awareness and obedience isn't remotely close.Actually except a CB for next season - as we don't know how Terry will end the season, I don't see us needing improvement in any of the starting eleven players. Even the AMs suggested all around won't improve us much, few of them are working hard players like Mourinho wants and needs in the system. We have balance. I said this in the English players thread and I'll repeat it here... the teams that last dominated for real European football were Bayern and before them Barcelona. They didn't have absolutely stars and beasts in all 11 starting eleven positions. With fair money we could improve our bench - like we did with Remy. Our starting eleven is settled unless a serious injury comes our way - knocks the wood.I'm not saying Pogba isn't good, I'm saying that it makes no sense spend 60M on him. A new three-year period starts for FPP next season. Why break the bank so early? We don't have much of deadwood anymore to get rid of... So I don't see us doing this kind of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I don't get why we would spend 60M in a player that we don't even need in the first place...Did I miss the memo where it was said we have a midfield issue? You spend this exorbitant amount of money in a position you desperately need to strengthen.Squawka just had an article asking if Matic + Cesc is the best midfield in England... They need to make adjustments because Cesc is new in the team and we've clearly changed our system. But I think it's bewildering to think Mourinho would break the bank for a player that could, possibly, maybe improve us some.Cesc's best position is playing as a #8, to replace Oscar for Cesc and have Pogba as the #8, it makes no sense because we're moving one of our best players (Cesc) out of this best position to accommodate someone that won't offer what he does there. When Mourinho wants more physicality in the team as well as pace then Oscar offers, we switch to a 4-3-3 with Ramires... Pogba could play where Oscar plays, but he isn't as tactical, he can do some things better, but his tactical awareness and obedience isn't remotely close.Actually except a CB for next season - as we don't know how Terry will end the season, I don't see us needing improvement in any of the starting eleven players. Even the AMs suggested all around won't improve us much, few of them are working hard players like Mourinho wants and needs in the system. We have balance. I said this in the English players thread and I'll repeat it here... the teams that last dominated for real European football were Bayern and before them Barcelona. They didn't have absolutely stars and beasts in all 11 starting eleven positions. With fair money we could improve our bench - like we did with Remy. Our starting eleven is settled unless a serious injury comes our way - knocks the wood.I'm not saying Pogba isn't good, I'm saying that it makes no sense spend 60M on him. A new three-year period starts for FPP next season. Why break the bank so early? We don't have much of deadwood anymore to get rid of... So I don't see us doing this kind of business.If we acquire Pogba, its Oscar who is at risk. 4-3-3, Matic in the Makelele role, Cesc playmaker, Pogba as box to box. Its looking less likely I must say though, midfield looks stacked right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yep I agree Pogba would be a luxury signing but he would definitely improve us. He's better than Oscar and Ramires and is HG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Oscar and Pogba are completely different players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Pogba is good, but he's massively overrated. Best young player in the world, yeah right.Can't believe people were saying he's one of the best midfielders in the world. I know at least 10 midfielders I'd have over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I don't get why we would spend 60M in a player that we don't even need in the first place...Did I miss the memo where it was said we have a midfield issue? You spend this exorbitant amount of money in a position you desperately need to strengthen.Squawka just had an article asking if Matic + Cesc is the best midfield in England... They need to make adjustments because Cesc is new in the team and we've clearly changed our system. But I think it's bewildering to think Mourinho would break the bank for a player that could, possibly, maybe improve us some.Cesc's best position is playing as a #8, to replace Oscar for Cesc and have Pogba as the #8, it makes no sense because we're moving one of our best players (Cesc) out of this best position to accommodate someone that won't offer what he does there. When Mourinho wants more physicality in the team as well as pace then Oscar offers, we switch to a 4-3-3 with Ramires... Pogba could play where Oscar plays, but he isn't as tactical, he can do some things better, but his tactical awareness and obedience isn't remotely close.Actually except a CB for next season - as we don't know how Terry will end the season, I don't see us needing improvement in any of the starting eleven players. Even the AMs suggested all around won't improve us much, few of them are working hard players like Mourinho wants and needs in the system. We have balance. I said this in the English players thread and I'll repeat it here... the teams that last dominated for real European football were Bayern and before them Barcelona. They didn't have absolutely stars and beasts in all 11 starting eleven positions. With fair money we could improve our bench - like we did with Remy. Our starting eleven is settled unless a serious injury comes our way - knocks the wood.I'm not saying Pogba isn't good, I'm saying that it makes no sense spend 60M on him. A new three-year period starts for FPP next season. Why break the bank so early? We don't have much of deadwood anymore to get rid of... So I don't see us doing this kind of business.Pogba would just replace Oscar in our system nothing else would change about our system. Don't really understand why Fabregas would have to change positions.No offense but Pogba is the better player of the 2. I don't think there's much debating that. You can say Oscar is better in terms of tactical awareness and obedience but at the end of the day Pogba is the better player and it's not that close either.Your right our team doesn't "need" any improvements, apart from maybe a CB ( depending on how JT plays this season), but that doesn't mean we shouldn't still try to improve our squad. Not every signing we make has to be out of pure necessity.Pogba would be a luxury signing but since when aren't we allowed to make luxury signings ?Ofcourse we need to wait and see what this season brings but if Oscar plays the way he did last season then i wouldn't put it past us to go for a replacement (like Pogba for example) next season.Edit - Also If i'm not mistaken Pogba only has 2 years left on his contract. If he doesn't sign a contract extension this season then he'll only have 1 season left on his contract next season.So Juventus would basically be forced to sell him and would have to lower their asking price a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Did the club pick this picture on purpose for their international games round-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Did the club pick this picture on purpose for their international games round-up? Pogba and Matic were awesome today...standout performers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 We already have Zouma and Remy, maybe Pogba will follow them eventualy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 He still plays with Chelsea on Fifa Manager^^.Minute 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 4-1-4-1 Someone isn't ever going to become a football manager IRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneChan95 225 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Pogba is good, but he's massively overrated. Best young player in the world, yeah right.Can't believe people were saying he's one of the best midfielders in the world. I know at least 10 midfielders I'd have over himMay be a tad overrated. But even Jose rates him highly and said he was the best young player in the world cup. Now obviously world cup performances alone can be deceiving but he has been playing well consistently and I think that is what is really important. You have to always give good performances every game and this guy can do that. If he continues on his upwards trajectory he could be one of the best midfielders in a few years. But the price the media is throwing around (I believe in the region of 60M) is what really puts people off. I don't think we should break the bank for him because our midfield is really stacked at the moment and FFP does compel us to make smarter buys. However, if for some mad reason we could get him at a good price, say about the same we got for Matic, he could turn out a worthy investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Doesn't he have a year left on his contract next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't get why we would spend 60M in a player that we don't even need in the first place...Did I miss the memo where it was said we have a midfield issue? You spend this exorbitant amount of money in a position you desperately need to strengthen.Squawka just had an article asking if Matic + Cesc is the best midfield in England... They need to make adjustments because Cesc is new in the team and we've clearly changed our system. But I think it's bewildering to think Mourinho would break the bank for a player that could, possibly, maybe improve us some.Cesc's best position is playing as a #8, to replace Oscar for Cesc and have Pogba as the #8, it makes no sense because we're moving one of our best players (Cesc) out of this best position to accommodate someone that won't offer what he does there. When Mourinho wants more physicality in the team as well as pace then Oscar offers, we switch to a 4-3-3 with Ramires... Pogba could play where Oscar plays, but he isn't as tactical, he can do some things better, but his tactical awareness and obedience isn't remotely close.Actually except a CB for next season - as we don't know how Terry will end the season, I don't see us needing improvement in any of the starting eleven players. Even the AMs suggested all around won't improve us much, few of them are working hard players like Mourinho wants and needs in the system. We have balance. I said this in the English players thread and I'll repeat it here... the teams that last dominated for real European football were Bayern and before them Barcelona. They didn't have absolutely stars and beasts in all 11 starting eleven positions. With fair money we could improve our bench - like we did with Remy. Our starting eleven is settled unless a serious injury comes our way - knocks the wood.I'm not saying Pogba isn't good, I'm saying that it makes no sense spend 60M on him. A new three-year period starts for FPP next season. Why break the bank so early? We don't have much of deadwood anymore to get rid of... So I don't see us doing this kind of business.I still think Mikel will move on, but we'll see. Maybe he will be re-born this season. The most interesting midfielder for me at this moment is Dusan Tadic, not Pogba. When you see a midfielder who can make any type of pass, from any angle or tight space--plus exhibit timing, threat without great pace, some deception, and superb free kicks, I would say you've found a guy who is a true number 10. I am literally waiting every week to A) see Chelsea play and watch Tadic again for Soton.http://www.squawka.com/news/how-did-dusan-tadic-do-on-his-southampton-debut-against-liverpool/161213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 433 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yes he expensive Yes we don't desperately need him right now and Yes He is little hyped up But since when has it become a thing to wait until you desperately need to fill a position, why not drastically improve your team if you can and if it means letting go of a player or two so be it. Tbh i don't think we will get him unless the money is right but you can guarantee PSG, Madrid maybe even Utd will be interested which will sky rocket the price and essentially leave us looking elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Doesn't he have a year left on his contract next year?He has two years left now, but he's expected to sign a renewal before Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 He has two years left now, but he's expected to sign a renewal before Jan. And if he doesn't it does get interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 And if he doesn't it does get interesting...Nobody wants to play for the dull Allegri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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