Rumoured Paul Pogba

[chopchop 68]

Eden was much closer to being a finished article when we bought him than Paul is right now and was performing much more consistently while Oscar was not a key player for us in his first season, in fact he was kept out of the team most of the time by Victor Moses whereas people are expecting Poogba to be a nailed on starter and key player in the pivot if he signs, a role which I do not think he is ready for.

Add to that the fact that club was at a completely different place two years ago. We were challenging for 4th place and in the EL which is why we could afford to have the likes Bertrand and Moses as first team regulars and we could afford to have Oscar and Eden make mistakes and develop. We're not at that stage anymore. Next season we are expected to win the league and challenge in the final stages of the CL. Right now, we would not buy the Oscar of 2012 to him a key player.

This is definitely a very solid point. However, I still feel as though even Hazard isn't a finished article. Players don't necessarily hit their prime until their upper twenties. I am fully aware that Pogba is still a raw product, but that is what makes him so exciting and potentially prolific. As is, he would be a massive upgrade in our midfield, surely there is no doubting that? Give him a couple years in the team and we could be looking at one of the best the world has ever seen.

[Barbara 15,149]

Eden was much closer to being a finished article when we bought him than Paul is right now and was performing much more consistently while Oscar was not a key player for us in his first season, in fact he was kept out of the team most of the time by Victor Moses whereas people are expecting Poogba to be a nailed on starter and key player in the pivot if he signs, a role which I do not think he is ready for.

Add to that the fact that club was at a completely different place two years ago. We were challenging for 4th place and in the EL which is why we could afford to have the likes Bertrand and Moses as first team regulars and we could afford to have Oscar and Eden make mistakes and develop. We're not at that stage anymore. Next season we are expected to win the league and challenge in the final stages of the CL. Right now, we would not buy the Oscar of 2012 to him a key player.

Of course every player in the world has inconsistencies, but there are major differences a mature player not having great games 5-10 games in a season and a young player like Pogba putting is sub-par performances for a quarter or so of the matches of the season. Paying 65m for a player who still needs time to develop is ridiculous, imo.

I blame it on FM... it seems like people lost the common sense when it comes to players price tags. No doubts he'd be more than welcome here, but for this price he'd have to play more than Modric and in all honesty he hasn't been playing even close. For Luka I maybe would agree with such a fee (that would depend on his age, if he was up to 25/6 than yes, if older, probably too much as well).

It makes absolutely no sense to pay such an amount in a youngster, no matter how much the world changed. Bale transfer was an atrocity already, we don't need a repeat of that.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Well if we're talking pounds then it's 40.1m for Luiz not 50, but yes, 65m Euros for Pogba is equally as insane as 50m Euros for Luiz, if not a bit more.

I heard £48m for Luiz.

But like I said, if you could swap Luiz for Pogba would you do it?

[chopchop 68]

The issue in this thread isn't whether or not you all like Pogba, it's that you're all just very jaded on the direction of football transfers in general.

[Special Juan 28,096]

The issue in this thread isn't whether or not you all like Pogba, it's that you're all just very jaded on the direction of football transfers in general.

Each opinion differs from each other, it's what we are all here for. Nobody is jaded, they just have a difference of opinion to you, as to what they want.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Pogba, Rakitic, Vidal, Cesc, Kroos, Witsel, Koké.

I agree with the rest, but Witsel? he's surly a stylish CM but when i saw him he never really stood out in Zenit. Not that good imo.

Koke is another question mark for me, not sure how good he is, but in 30m max it might be worth it.

[mannyfreshh 164]

No. Just no...

For 30-35 yess..

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I blame it on FM... it seems like people lost the common sense when it comes to players price tags. No doubts he'd be more than welcome here, but for this price he'd have to play more than Modric and in all honesty he hasn't been playing even close. For Luka I maybe would agree with such a fee (that would depend on his age, if he was up to 25/6 than yes, if older, probably too much as well).

It makes absolutely no sense to pay such an amount in a youngster, no matter how much the world changed. Bale transfer was an atrocity already, we don't need a repeat of that.

When you come to grips with the fact the marketplace isn't static and that availability dictates a players worth you will have a clue.

Modric is not the same type of player as Pogba. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? Pogba is not worth 50m but Juve don't have to sell so that drives up his price!

I'll put it to you as well, if I told you we could swap Luiz for Pogba with no financial loss for the club would you do it?

The money doesn't matter we're in the black by a fair margin

[chopchop 68]

Each opinion differs from each other, it's what we are all here for. Nobody is jaded, they just have a difference of opinion to you, as to what they want.

I understand difference in opinions, but I'm talking about several people on here making posts about being disgusted by the Bale/Luiz transfer prices. I'm not making that up.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Wow this thread heated up whilst I watched some on demand 24

I still don't know what to say - but that €65million is a potential curse on a young lad

Look at Neymar he's done fuck all at Barcelona - yet he was heralded as the new Messi...

Saying this guy is Workd Class is confusing to me. My 'old' definition of World Class meant doing it on the big stage ?

That's not the same as a rapidly declining Serie A...

As we have all agreed - money DOES NOT equal success. Is there any point in risking €65 million on this guy when we have Chalobah, Traore and Loftus Cheek?

I remember the hype around DeBruyne - turned out to be average, same with Moses, same with Marin - in fact a lot of 'Internet (Fifa/FM) players turn out to be shit in real life... Strange that

[Muzchap 8,966]

I understand difference in opinions, but I'm talking about several people on here making posts about being disgusted by the Bale/Luiz transfer prices. I'm not making that up.

Disgusted isn't the same as jaded

I was disgusted that RM felt the need to pay €100million for Bale. I'm not sure he's worth that - but RM are happy - so good for them

I'm happy we got €50million for Luiz

My only gripe is with PSG and City who are under FFP restrictions/sanctions being able to splash that amount of cash around - its a mockery... So not jaded - just plain old disgusted

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Wow this thread heated up whilst I watched some on demand 24

I still don't know what to say - but that €65million is a potential curse on a young lad

Look at Neymar he's done fuck all at Barcelona - yet he was heralded as the new Messi...

Saying this guy is Workd Class is confusing to me. My 'old' definition of World Class meant doing it on the big stage ?

That's not the same as a rapidly declining Serie A...

As we have all agreed - money DOES NOT equal success. Is there any point in risking €65 million on this guy when we have Chalobah, Traore and Loftus Cheek?

I remember the hype around DeBruyne - turned out to be average, same with Moses, same with Marin - in fact a lot of 'Internet (Fifa/FM) players turn out to be shit in real life... Strange that

Can argue that, its tough

[chopchop 68]

Wow this thread heated up whilst I watched some on demand 24

I still don't know what to say - but that €65million is a potential curse on a young lad

Look at Neymar he's done fuck all at Barcelona - yet he was heralded as the new Messi...

Saying this guy is Workd Class is confusing to me. My 'old' definition of World Class meant doing it on the big stage ?

That's not the same as a rapidly declining Serie A...

As we have all agreed - money DOES NOT equal success. Is there any point in risking €65 million on this guy when we have Chalobah, Traore and Loftus Cheek?

I remember the hype around DeBruyne - turned out to be average, same with Moses, same with Marin - in fact a lot of 'Internet (Fifa/FM) players turn out to be shit in real life... Strange that

No, you're right. We'll start Traore at cm next to Matic next year. Glad we got that sorted! Shut down the thread!

[Barbara 15,149]

When you come to grips with the fact the marketplace isn't static and that availability dictates a players worth you will have a clue.

Modric is not the same type of player as Pogba. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? Pogba is not worth 50m but Juve don't have to sell so that drives up his price!

I'll put it to you as well, if I told you we could swap Luiz for Pogba with no financial loss for the club would you do it?

The money doesn't matter we're in the black by a fair margin

if people couldn't see the player name in all your posts they'd think you're talking about the best thing in football since Maradona... the way you make it look like it seems like this is such a can't-think-of-lose-such-a-gem-and-a-business-opportunity kind of deal which it doesn't come even close. I'm all always about the volatile sports business and it's nonsense like this happening that leads to such inflated prices.

I've never said Modric is the same kind of players as Pogba, I just said he's one of the few midfielders I'd agree to pay as much money.

I've given up trying to reason with you. You're adamant in your position and opinion - which is fine - the same way nobody is going to convince me we should spend as much money in an U-21 player whose future development nobody can predict, not me, not you, nobody.

I do hope the board doesn't go there, there are many players we could improve our midfield with and regardless of whether they're as good, better or worse than Pogba and what their ceiling is, this isn't FM so I don't need to have all stars in my team. I'd rather an Azpilicueta than a Pogba and I'm positive we could get someone similar for 30m.

So let's agree to disagree.

[Muzchap 8,966]

No, you're right. We'll start Traore at cm next to Matic next year. Glad we got that sorted! Shut down the thread!

Hmm - I see you are new here - that's cool, but er want to be much more of a cunt?

I'm voicing my opinion - in a non sarcastic way, if you don't like it then fine - but no need to be a bellend about it...

Traore is a nice player - has great attributes and could do a job along with some of our younger players.

I hope Traore does get some game time. Then I can remind you of this post