Frank Lampard

[The_Flash 1,144]

The only defending that was embarrasing today was the curly headed clown ,the only thing missing today was a red nose .

Kindly refrain from STEALING MY SIGNATURE, change now!!!

[Phil Driver 503]

What on the actual fuck are you on about? What has possession got to do with it? And has Lampard got to do with that particular stat given the way he gave the ball away at every opportunity?

Absoloute rubbish every opportunity . Our AM's and curly heade CB were the problem today ,the pivot was very good ,sideways slow passes would have made us worse today .

[Jase 43,479]

So you're just going to make insinuations so that you don't actually have to take any responsibility for them? See I've not taken the 'Lampard was shit...the end' line that others have so I might be seen as a Lampard-defender to some.

Maybe you'd like to just say what you mean so that there's no confusion.

Well, not sure why you are worrying or bothering about it really if you think you aren't one of these 'people'........

[Jase 43,479]

Kindly refrain from STEALING MY SIGNATURE, change now!!!

Can you please stop spamming the threads with that post?! If you are unhappy with him taking your signature, please convey the message through PM please..

[The only place to be 11,313]

Well, not sure why you are worrying or bothering about it really if you think you aren't one of these 'people'........

Because I think it's a bit cowardly to be honest and leaves a lot of room for confusion.

I also think the superficiality in this discussion suggests people are only looking for likes from a reliable few rather than attempting to discuss the reasons for a bad performance.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Can you please stop spamming the threads with that post?! If you are unhappy with him taking your signature, please convey the message through PM please..

I have done so, thought it was bit sad when there are millions of pics to choose from, and most people on here respect and most don't use same picture ah well

I won't waste my time saying it again

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

He must be amazing in training to get picked after his game against City. I'm not saying he's not good enough at all, just lately. Give someone else a chance

[Jase 43,479]

Because I think it's a bit cowardly to be honest and leaves a lot of room for confusion.

I also think the superficiality in this discussion suggests people are only looking for likes from a reliable few rather than attempting to discuss the reasons for a bad performance.

Not my problem if people like the post. I only wanted to make my point across about this whole situation. Those that get it, yay. If not, then yeah whatever. The members that have read this thread and follow the discussion that goes on here will know about it.

And byt continuing to talk about this, you are only making yourself look more like one of those people...

[Phil Driver 503]

Lets be honest ,he would have been better used in a more forward position today ,anybody remember Villa and Everton last season?

We did not look like scoring despite 61% posession ,oh for one of those long shots ,we looked like Arsenal today ,tippy tappy tarts . In no way can you blame the pivot for that. Did anybody ever run past Torres? into their box?

[Barbara 15,149]

I may regret these words later - because I need to watch the game more carefully, but as it stands now, I'd say he and Cole were the biggest liabilities there technically wise. I still think our main issue was attitude instead of technical, but if two guys had technical issues today (Cole also had the attitude issue) it was those two.

Lamps have been alternating good and bad performances. Today wasn't this first horrible match. He's still good and important for us, but Mourinho's been stubborn insisting on playing Lamps at all matches - especially the important ones.

Why everyone can see that Lamps physically can't afford to be technically good playing matches, but Mourinho can't?

I'm not dissing Lamps, but while I think he still has more than enough to offer for us, I don't think he can do that in a weekly basis. But Mourinho won't give him up, will he?

[The only place to be 11,313]

I may regret these words later - because I need to watch the game more carefully, but as it stands now, I'd say he and Cole were the biggest liabilities there technically wise. I still think our main issue was attitude instead of technical, but if two guys had technical issues today (Cole also had the attitude issue) it was those two.

Lamps have been alternating good and bad performances. Today wasn't this first horrible match. He's still good and important for us, but Mourinho's been stubborn insisting on playing Lamps at all matches - especially the important ones.

Why everyone can see that Lamps physically can't afford to be technically good playing matches, but Mourinho can't?

I'm not dissing Lamps, but while I think he still has more than enough to offer for us, I don't think he can do that in a weekly basis. But Mourinho won't give him up, will he?

Because we quite simply don't have the alternatives at the moment. I don't think there's anyone on this board who doesn't want us to buy a new midfielder or two, but as it is we don't have many other choices.

Lamps and Rami have put in some good performances and I think the inclusion of Oscar and wingers makes the game easier for both of them, but it's an area we need to improve.

[Blue Armour 4,289]

Because we quite simply don't have the alternatives at the moment. I don't think there's anyone on this board who doesn't want us to buy a new midfielder or two, but as it is we don't have many other choices.

Lamps and Rami have put in some good performances and I think the inclusion of Oscar and wingers makes the game easier for both of them, but it's an area we need to improve.

Which is why I hope we go in for a new CM sooner rather than later.

While Lampard has worked hard to change his game to that of a deep lying playmaker, defensively he is suspect.

And tbh, with only Mata, Oscar and Hazard playing upfront the only real defensive presence in midfield is Ramires.

Its ok if the opposing team is sitting deep like they did in the first half, but when they come out and attack like Newcastle did in the 2nd half, Chelsea's midfield gets over-run.

Pardew no doubt realized that, and conveyed it to to his team at half time.

I doubt Mourinho is going to drop Lampard just like that, but he will certainly make sure the rest of the starting-line up suits Frank's game when he does play.

[Korea 734]

If ramsey can play in the pivot, Im sure oscar can as well....

Even though i would prefer oscar as our 10, at this stage, I want Lampard dropped more than mata...

[The_Flash 1,144]

I think it was a collective **** performance

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

January cannot come soon enough so Mourinho can sign a proper midfielder, Lampard absolutely stunk the place out yesterday. We can't control a single game with him in there unless the other side just parks the bus.

[The only place to be 11,313]

January cannot come soon enough so Mourinho can sign a proper midfielder, Lampard absolutely stunk the place out yesterday. We can't control a single game with him in there unless the other side just parks the bus.

I know you don't like stats and things of that nature, but that point you made doesn't actually hold up to any type of scrutiny. Yes we need to buy a new midfielder but some people are scapegoating him unfairly in my opinion and failing to apply the same criteria to other players that they're playing to him.

A lot of players had an off-day yesterday, but people aren't asking why? You'll get your likes from the usual suspects but I can't help but think it's all a little superficial.

[tapa 11]

i think his place is on the bench

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

I know you don't like stats and things of that nature, but that point you made doesn't actually hold up to any type of scrutiny. Yes we need to buy a new midfielder but some people are scapegoating him unfairly in my opinion and failing to apply the same criteria to other players that they're playing to him.

A lot of players had an off-day yesterday, but people aren't asking why? You'll get your likes from the usual suspects but I can't help but think it's all a little superficial.

That's not unfair on him even in the slightest. Lampard is being selfish and he more than anyone knows it. He knows he can't play in that position and yet he ousted 3 managers who tried to move him on. He gives his best, he works hard but he just cannot physically do what is required of him in that position.

What is really infuriating is that our weak link is there for all to see, week in, week out and yet nothing is done about it. Are Essien and Mikel better players than Lampard? No. and they never will be, but they showed what a colossal difference balance brings to a side, it was because of them we could truly and fully control and toy with a strong Arsenal side.

Can you imagine Lampard playing against a pressing side like Dortmund, or even a Southampton? He wouldn't even see it coming...