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Lampard is a cam, not a cm......

When he moves to Miami next season, Beckham going to make him play cam while he sips some patron and enjoys the great miami weather...

really?? no one told rdm/rafa/avb/jose that. moreover for the last 2 season lamps has been winning european titles while playing in the CM/DM position. so now i am a bit confused!!!

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Beckham's the owner and not the manager.

If Lampard moves there he will easily be the best player in the MLS. He will play wherever he wants in Miami, no matter who is owner and who is manager, they will probably build the formation around him.

And btw. Lamps is an offensive no.8, a box-to-box midfielder, not a CAM. His position is the most advanced of the 3 mids in a 4-3-3. In modern football where everyone plays 4-2-3-1, his position does not exist anymore, cos all no.10s do not go back to the own box that often and interchange with the wingers. Lamps never did that, but worked defensively almost as hard as offensively, but most things he did in the middle of the pitch, be it his awesome diagonal balls, vertical passes, tackles, build up play or whatever. CAM does come much closer to his position than DM. Lamps often looks a bit forlorn in the pivot, because he played a different position for 10 years. That Maka-Ess-Lamps midfield was the most complete midfield ever, cos all three were the best in the world at what they were doing respectively. That midfield was built around Lamps and rightly so because he was the best.

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You have to be kidding! Schalke are ten times the team that Newcastle are and let's be honest, the scoreline really flattered us. Schalke played very well and defended excellently while the game against Newcastle was probably the easiest match (bar Steaua) that we've played this season. There was so much spaces, no pressing, it was just so easy to go and score but we just failed to perform. Jose himself said so.

disagree - not really talking about quality, but pressure, physical game, etc.

Away matches are always tricky, especially defensively.

Evidence A: We killed them in the away game

Evidence B: look at their line up? Would you take any pick? For our B team perhaps?

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disagree - not really talking about quality, but pressure, physical game, etc.

Away matches are always tricky, especially defensively.

Evidence A: We killed them in the away game

Evidence B: look at their line up? Would you take any pick? For our B team perhaps?

But the Newcastle game really wasn't. There was absolutely no pressure on our players in midfield and tons of spaces, especially in the first half.

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Imo Lamps best asset right now is his goal-scoring ability, and not his passing, defending, running, workrate etc. So he should be playing closer to the goal not farther. That said though, if he's going to be used as a CAM then it'll be down to sub appearances only for when we need goals cause if he starts there then that position requires him to be able to play in tight spaces and be good on the ball, both things that he not good at anymore.

Hell, I'd even play him as a striker considering he'll probably need the least amount of scoring chances on our entire team to get a goal.

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Lampard has never been an AM. I remember when we used to play a diamond formation and lampard was at the Tip and it didn't suit him at all. And that was when he was in his prime. He's better playing deep so he can make late runs into the box. Think the only formation that suits him is 433.

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But the Newcastle game really wasn't. There was absolutely no pressure on our players in midfield and tons of spaces, especially in the first half.

sorry I don't go with the idea that we win when we want. Newcastle defended in the their own half, played a very physical game. Let us have the football but allowed us no space in the final 3rd (where it matters).

Were we sluggish only because it an off day, or Newcastle had something to do with it? I like to think that our opponents have some influence in the game we play, even when they are technically inferior. It's not the only match we are going to struggle against an inferior side, especially away from home.

Shalke were embarrassing against us esp if you take both matches. Because they let us play while newcastle decided they could not beat us, so they tried not to let us play. Completely different strategy and big teams tend to struggle more when the smaller side takes newcastle stance. It ahs happened one too many times.

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If Lampard moves there he will easily be the best player in the MLS. He will play wherever he wants in Miami, no matter who is owner and who is manager, they will probably build the formation around him.

And btw. Lamps is an offensive no.8, a box-to-box midfielder, not a CAM. His position is the most advanced of the 3 mids in a 4-3-3. In modern football where everyone plays 4-2-3-1, his position does not exist anymore, cos all no.10s do not go back to the own box that often and interchange with the wingers. Lamps never did that, but worked defensively almost as hard as offensively, but most things he did in the middle of the pitch, be it his awesome diagonal balls, vertical passes, tackles, build up play or whatever. CAM does come much closer to his position than DM. Lamps often looks a bit forlorn in the pivot, because he played a different position for 10 years. That Maka-Ess-Lamps midfield was the most complete midfield ever, cos all three were the best in the world at what they were doing respectively. That midfield was built around Lamps and rightly so because he was the best.

Haha very funny

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sorry I don't go with the idea that we win when we want. Newcastle defended in the their own half, played a very physical game. Let us have the football but allowed us no space in the final 3rd (where it matters).

Were we sluggish only because it an off day, or Newcastle had something to do with it? I like to think that our opponents have some influence in the game we play, even when they are technically inferior. It's not the only match we are going to struggle against an inferior side, especially away from home.

Shalke were embarrassing against us esp if you take both matches. Because they let us play while newcastle decided they could not beat us, so they tried not to let us play. Completely different strategy and big teams tend to struggle more when the smaller side takes newcastle stance. It ahs happened one too many times.

I agree with the general notion. We have suffered against weaker teams who park the bus and did better against teams that let us play, but it just wasn't the case in these games!

Against Newcastle, especially in the first half, we were allowed time and space on the edge of the box for all of Mata, Oscar and Hazard but we always misplaced the final pass. Newcastle committed men forward and only left 4-5 players behind the ball and there was spaces behind them but we always messed up the transition. 5-6 of the 8 passes Lampard missed in the first half, IIRC, were when the opposition were in transition.

Jose said: "It was easy in the first half. We had lots of space and no pressure and we did not take advantage of that. We deserved to lose, Newcastle didn't deserve to win, but we deserved to lose."

As for Schalke, in the away game, we played the 'smaller team role' as you called it by giving them the ball and playing on the counter. "In Germany, they had the ball because we gave it to them" (again a direct quote from Jose). They had 60% of possession. But we sat deep, denied them going through the middle after scoring an early goal. Then we scored two more when late on when in both cases Schalke had all 10 men in our half.

For the game at the bridge, they came here looking for a draw. They sat very very deep despite having a couple of early chances through our own mistakes. They had 11 men behind the ball most of the time and we hardly created anything in the first half. Had we not scored through a GK mistake, they probably would have done the same in the second half and the score line would not be anywhere near 3-0. They defended ten times better than Newcastle but we showed up with fighting spirit against Schalke unlike Newcastle and we a had a bit of luck which you sometimes need (and deserve as Eto'o deserved his luck for his effort).

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