Frank Lampard

[bushman 2,043]

I'm a Chelsea supporter. I just have different opinions on some things.

May i just ask, what is it that you dislike about Frankie, then ?

[Styles 9,790]

May i just ask, what is it that you dislike about Frankie, then ?

I don't dislike him. I hope he gets the goals record. I was MASSIVELY pleased for him, Didier, Cech and Cole to finally win the Champions League. It would have been an absolute travesty if they didn't win it once in their careers. He is one of the best players in our most successful period as a club. I have nothing against him.

[bushman 2,043]

I don't dislike him. I hope he gets the goals record. I was MASSIVELY pleased for him, Didier, Cech and Cole to finally win the Champions League. It would have been an absolute travesty if they didn't win it once in their careers. He is one of the best players in our most successful period as a club. I have nothing against him.

Well, thanks for clearing it up, then.

I also, would love to see him scoring 10 more goals, just to break the record. However, I doubt he will.

[Hutcho 8,443]

I have bad visions that he will finish 1 short and then go, which would still be a great achievement but it would be something special if he could break the record.

[Jype 6,398]

I can understand both sides here. Lampard will obviously want to stay because he loves the club and he's desperate to break Tambling's record and truly make himself the greatest player in the history of Chelsea FC. He might even be willing to take the pay cut that was discussed in the newspapers a few days ago and if that's the case it would definitely make sense to give him at least a one year extension on reduced wages and a role as a squad player. On the other hand I can easily understand Roman's reasoning if he doesn't want Lampard at the club anymore. I would be mad too if someone were to fuck with my £13m investment, especially if Abramovich felt AVB was the right man for the long term and was ready to back AVB no matter what. Sacking AVB worked out perfectly as far as last season is concerned but we all know what Roman is like and he's not the kind of man to swallow his pride and give in to someone's demands when he's made up his mind, even though in this case he perhaps should make an exception...

[bushman 2,043]

Roman is a shrewed businessman & he will not give up. Frankie is 34 year-old. He already played until this late in his career & got paid well. The team must move on & Chelsea´s policy clearly states no contract over 30.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

But it looks like (if the AVB issue is the case (or partly) for Lampard leaving) that Roman wants to get rid of the powerhouse clique and make it easier for a new manager in the summer to put his own method in the team 9especially if he has to invest a lot of money to get such as Klopp). Its understandable that Roman does no want another situation where the manager is at friction with older players because they are not doing what they want him to do 9such as not putting them in their plans and seeing them as squad players only).

Problem is, I think there's a new samba powerhouse that may start to develop in the squad now. Belgians, Brazilians & Spaniards.. Let's hope they don't start forming cliques.

More on topic; agree totally. There was no way Roman wasn't going to seek to break up the old guard after his personal managerial appointment (AVB) was dismissed due to them. He just has to make the right approach in the dismissal. Drogba's was done brilliantly, low key, no dramas. The same should carry with Lampard.

[bushman 2,043]

Roman is not breaking up the old gang. He is buying younger players & they will form the nucleus of the future club.

Young in, old out.

As for AVB, he was dismissed cos he was clueless, then.

[Corner 456]

Problem is, I think there's a new samba powerhouse that may start to develop in the squad now. Belgians, Brazilians & Spaniards.. Let's hope they don't start forming cliques.

More on topic; agree totally. There was no way Roman wasn't going to seek to break up the old guard after his personal managerial appointment (AVB) was dismissed due to them. He just has to make the right approach in the dismissal. Drogba's was done brilliantly, low key, no dramas. The same should carry with Lampard.

The media won't allow that to happen, unfortunately.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

The period of Lamps's absence (in which we won only one of 8 games) is an early sign of the longstanding darkness that awaits the club after his departure. You do not win anything without leaders (except maybe inGerman football, as there are no leaders whatsoever, but they have to give the trophies to someone).

Based on facts, there is no-one who can replace him yet, neither footballingwise nor characterwise. At this point some people often use arguments like "De bruyne looks awesome", "Oscar can play in the double pivot" or my favourite " Mata is on course to a 25 goals 30 assists season. this is all utter BS. We do not know whether de Bruyne will even make a game for us again,w e do not know if he could fulfill his potential here, we do not know if Oscar can be only a fracture of the player Lamps was for us for over a decade. And the most ridiculous argument ever is this "Mata is on course to score 25 goals bla bla". Well, he also was last season in January. But you know what, we entered the crucial time of the season, suddenly his goals and assists began to dry up, his performances went downhill. So I could also say, mata is on course to be outscored by Lamps once again.

Lamps, Drogs are natural born leaders, big game players, Oscar, mata, hazard are not.

[The only place to be 11,313]

And the most ridiculous argument ever is this "Mata is on course to score 25 goals bla bla". Well, he also was last season in January. But you know what, we entered the crucial time of the season, suddenly his goals and assists began to dry up, his performances went downhill. So I could also say, mata is on course to be outscored by Lamps once again.

I made that point, and I think you're totally wrong. You suggest that Mata went downhill in the second-half of the season. I haven't actually checked the stats but is it that surprising in his first season? The simple fact is that he's started scoring important goals in our games and at a decent rate too.

The idea that we're going to enter a period of darkness just because he leaves is utter cunting bollocks. It's the type of thinking of the person who didn't know what Chelsea football club was before Lampard joined and ignores the fact that even with Lampard in the team last season, we finished sixth in the league.

The truth is that no-one knows what will happen to the club after he leaves, but the board are putting us in a pretty strong position for that eventuality. The type of fan condemning us to failure before we even begin this new period in the club's life isn't the type of fan we really need in all honesty.

On a separate note, it's interesting to read that Frank's missus is also coming to the end of her tv contract and has apparently told friends that it's between Italy and America - considering the fact that she already struggles with English I would've thought LA was the best move for both of them.

[zolayes 14,489]

And the most ridiculous argument ever is this "Mata is on course to score 25 goals bla bla". Well, he also was last season in January. But you know what, we entered the crucial time of the season, suddenly his goals and assists began to dry up, his performances went downhill. So I could also say, mata is on course to be outscored by Lamps once again.

I made that point, and I think you're totally wrong. You suggest that Mata went downhill in the second-half of the season. I haven't actually checked the stats but is it that surprising in his first season? The simple fact is that he's started scoring important goals in our games and at a decent rate too.

The idea that we're going to enter a period of darkness just because he leaves is utter cunting bollocks. It's the type of thinking of the person who didn't know what Chelsea football club was before Lampard joined and ignores the fact that even with Lampard in the team last season, we finished sixth in the league.

The truth is that no-one knows what will happen to the club after he leaves, but the board are putting us in a pretty strong position for that eventuality. The type of fan condemning us to failure before we even begin this new period in the club's life isn't the type of fan we really need in all honesty.

On a separate note, it's interesting to read that Frank's missus is also coming to the end of her tv contract and has apparently told friends that it's between Italy and America - considering the fact that she already struggles with English I would've thought LA was the best move for both of them.

you MUST get MOM next month

[Corner 456]

And the most ridiculous argument ever is this "Mata is on course to score 25 goals bla bla". Well, he also was last season in January. But you know what, we entered the crucial time of the season, suddenly his goals and assists began to dry up, his performances went downhill. So I could also say, mata is on course to be outscored by Lamps once again.

I made that point, and I think you're totally wrong. You suggest that Mata went downhill in the second-half of the season. I haven't actually checked the stats but is it that surprising in his first season? The simple fact is that he's started scoring important goals in our games and at a decent rate too.

The idea that we're going to enter a period of darkness just because he leaves is utter cunting bollocks. It's the type of thinking of the person who didn't know what Chelsea football club was before Lampard joined and ignores the fact that even with Lampard in the team last season, we finished sixth in the league.

The truth is that no-one knows what will happen to the club after he leaves, but the board are putting us in a pretty strong position for that eventuality. The type of fan condemning us to failure before we even begin this new period in the club's life isn't the type of fan we really need in all honesty.

On a separate note, it's interesting to read that Frank's missus is also coming to the end of her tv contract and has apparently told friends that it's between Italy and America - considering the fact that she already struggles with English I would've thought LA was the best move for both of them.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Problem is, I think there's a new samba powerhouse that may start to develop in the squad now. Belgians, Brazilians & Spaniards.. Let's hope they don't start forming cliques.

More on topic; agree totally. There was no way Roman wasn't going to seek to break up the old guard after his personal managerial appointment (AVB) was dismissed due to them. He just has to make the right approach in the dismissal. Drogba's was done brilliantly, low key, no dramas. The same should carry with Lampard.

I think it helped Drogba kinda accepted he was going whereas at the minute with Lamps seems different.And if it is true about him asking for a pay cut to stay then it will have drama etc...probably paper talk but still.I think it will be a lot harder and the fans know more about whats going on now whereas again Drogba was more towards the end..

[manpe 10,861]

What will our homegrown situation look like once we let go of Lamps, Cole and now that we have let Sturridge go? Does Moses count as HG?

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

+ Lamps is the face of Chelsea, even more after the departure of Drogba. the board will fall out with the fans after Drogba, RDM, Benitez now even Lamps...? Sth goes horribly wrong there

[CHOULO19 24,332]

What will our homegrown situation look like once we let go of Lamps, Cole and now that we have let Sturridge go? Does Moses count as HG?

@TorontoChelsea, did the calculations a few weeks back, but I honestly don't remember the numbers (and am too lazy to redo it ) but unless we sign English replacements, we are basically screwed.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Nevertheless, why should it matter if Ba scored a penalty to get a hat-trick? Hat-tricks are just for headlines...a lot of strikers score hat-tricks only to go into a slump a few matches later. I don't need to give examples for that...

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

I made that point, and I think you're totally wrong. You suggest that Mata went downhill in the second-half of the season. I haven't actually checked the stats but is it that surprising in his first season? The simple fact is that he's started scoring important goals in our games and at a decent rate too.

It's the type of thinking of the person who didn't know what Chelsea football club was before Lampard joined and ignores the fact that even with Lampard in the team last season, we finished sixth in the league.

The truth is that no-one knows what will happen to the club after he leaves, but the board are putting us in a pretty strong position for that eventuality. The type of fan condemning us to failure before we even begin this new period in the club's life isn't the type of fan we really need in all honesty.

But Lamps is the player who transformed Chelsea from a good to a world-class club. We were worse before and will be worse after, cos the board lets the legacy of the old guard go to waste.

The board is overloading us with weakish, wasteful fair-weather footballers and taunting everything the club stands for. Clubs with more history than Chelsea have given their legends like Giggs, Raul, Maldini contracts as long as they wanted and it paid off. Lampard is far greater than all of them but still does not get his. This is simply a shame. I have followed a decade without a title for German football. That has taught me to recognize the early signs of oncoming gloom.

u try to find excuses for Mata's decline in the latter stages of last season again. Hence you confirm my point. I don't give a fuck why he went downhill (first season bla bla), fact he was not there when the team needed a leader, a big time player. So why should it be different now? My assumption of his performances and goal rate going down is at least based on experience, other than your idiotic "25 goals, 30 assists" season bullshit projection. Were it also you brain-wanking about your imagination of that infamous "25 goals 30 assits season" being bettr than Lamps's best? Lamps had 27 goals and 19 assists in 2009/10 + a decnet number of goals in international games. Wake me up when Mata has done that. I guess you can drop the act.

[zolayes 14,489]

But Lamps is the player who transformed Chelsea from a good to a world-class club. We were worse before and will be worse after, cos the board lets the legacy of the old guard go to waste.

The board is overloading us with weakish fair-weather footballers and taunting everything the club stands for. Clubs with more history than Chelsea have given their legends like Giggs, Raul, Maldini contracts as long as they wanted and it paid off. Lampard is far greater than all of them but still does not get his. This is simply a shame.

u try to find excuses for Mata's decline in the latter stages of last season again. Hence you confirm my point. I don't give a fuck why he went downhill (first season bla bla), fact he was not there when the team needed a leader, a big time player. So why should it be different now? My assumption of his performances and goal rate going down is at least based on experience, other than your idiotic "25 goals, 30 assists" season bullshit.

Lampard has been great for us BUT he isnt as great as you believe. Take away his penalty count and his goal tally while impressive is down a little. On assists for years he took all our corners..

goals scored them became assists . NOT disrespecting him merely trying to bring a sense of proportion to your post