robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Nothing lampard does makes any sense to me, but will give him the benefit of he doubt given his experience and success. Though dont quite understand what he’s trying to implement. Is it direct style? Assume so, because he does not seem to value passing from the back. He tries high press but players can’t keep possession as he employs inexperienced players with a more direct style up front as well. Only 2 mids are good consistent passers. so the result is that we high press for a little while, manage to score (so far) and then concede for lack of possession. While the back line isn’t great, our inability to keep possession and being bullied by weak opposition will always be a problem to any back line. The pressure will be difficult to handle for long periods of time. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Kepa James Rudiger Whoever compliments Rudi the best Emerson Jorginho Kante Mount/RLC Pedro CHO/Pulisic Tammy This has to be the team when everyone's fully fit. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, the wes said: Lamps needs to hire JT to sort out that backline Mourinho is available. Just hire him. Vesper, Johnnyeye and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tomo said: Kepa James Rudiger Whoever compliments Rudi the best Emerson Jorginho Kante Mount/RLC Pedro CHO/Pulisic Tammy This has to be the team when everyone's fully fit. As things stand, Kovacic ought to keep his place. Supermonkey92, robsblubot and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: Mourinho is available. Just hire him. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Vesper said: Tammy and Mount would get loaned out again. I can see that happening Johnnyeye, 11Drogba, Vesper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Tomo said: Kepa James Rudiger Whoever compliments Rudi the best Emerson Jorginho Kante Mount/RLC Pedro CHO/Pulisic Tammy This has to be the team when everyone's fully fit. Bit of a weird one say this must be the team but yet you can't choose a starting eleven. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1905didierblue 748 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 A disappointing yet we should not be surprised result. It was always going to be a learning curve. It is all about learning the game management aspect of the game. Not to panic, etc etc. The only player I am really upset with is azpi. He got burnt yesterday. I mean, he was horrendous. The way the players beat him, and the volume of times when he was beaten was shocking. He needs to be subbed. There is no 2 way about it. Secondly, I don't understand why zouma is getting all this hate. I mean tomori was way out of position for both the goals, literally marking the air. He is a young lad, so obviously needs to be given time, but zouma was in and around the striker and in a decent position. Pulisic needs time to adjust to the league. He is way too raw at the moment. Hopefully pedro/CHo are back fit after this 2 week break. 5 points in 4 games is underwhelming but there are a lot of posotives to have. Add the likes of Kante, Rudi, CHo, Pedro, james to the current team and I can see a completely different and far better team and results post the international break. Blue Armour and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 My patience has its limits. Enough is enough. Think I know what will happen this 25th December for sure.. It's Christmas day! May the joy and peace of Christmas be with you all through the year! Can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted September 1, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted September 1, 2019 There's too many of you on here obviously don't understand fully the situation at CFC I keep saying it we are in transition, it's not going to happen overnight, there's going to be a lot more heartache and disappointment on the way, before things get better. So you'd better gear yourself up now for the ride, i'm fed up already with some of you, it's get rid of this player get rid of that player, there was even one poster calling Billy Gilmour a c**t, fucking hell he came on for the final 20 minutes he's what 17 YO ffs i mean what was he supposed to do. Now there's a call for Lamps to get the sack it might only be tongue in cheek but it's still there, 4 games into the season and there are those that want rid of him citing he's not up too the job. I really don't know what some of you expect or expected, did you think we had a god given right after 4 games to up there with the best, well we are not and probably won't be. So I ask you be patient it will come right I have faith in the lads and Lamps, but it's going to take time, there are those of you that expect Chelsea to beat the Norwich's (which we did) the the Sheffield United of this world and all other relegation fodder well that aint gonna happen we will struggle at some point in all games, certainly with the top teams and also the bottom teams. I'm probably a voice in the wilderness but it's my feelings on the issue in Lamps and the lads I trust. Blue Armour, Johnnyeye, Bosnian Blue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Even if the results go south the board sacking him be so stupid. They knew his experience and that was limited and knew he can't make drastic changes that may want to. Learning process... Just learning the hard way. We knew be a long season though we really shouldn't be 2-0 up and throw it away like that... 11Drogba, Johnnyeye and communicate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Even if the results go south the board sacking him be so stupid. Lamps obviously has insurance for next season no matter if he finishes 7th or 11th... That's so obvious after what he did yesterday. Antonio8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Vesper said: 12 hours ago, killer1257 said: Tammy and Mount would get loaned out again. I can see that happening I meant we should get Mourinho as our defensive coach! Johnnyeye, Vesper and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Even if the results go south the board sacking him be so stupid. They knew his experience and that was limited and knew he can't make drastic changes that may want to. Learning process... Just learning the hard way. We knew be a long season though we really shouldn't be 2-0 up and throw it away like that... 2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Lamps obviously has insurance for next season no matter if he finishes 7th or 11th... That's so obvious after what he did yesterday. I don't want to sit here and scream that Lampard should be our next manager for the next 10 years but if we keep on sacking managers like EVERY YEAR, we'll soon end up with the Alan Pardews and Sam Allardyces of this world as our manager. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't want to sit here and scream that Lampard should be our next manager for the next 10 years but if we keep on sacking managers like EVERY YEAR, we'll soon end up with the Alan Pardews and Sam Allardyces of this world as our manager. Exactly eventually you run out of options.. Guess could just go round in a circle. Start with Jose again or even Raneri. Nah hopefully he can have at least 3 seasons.. Maybe more. Make a change! Sacking although has helped us short term hasn't really long term and everyone has had different visions but no time to add to their vision so stuck with the rut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jason said: I meant we should get Mourinho as our defensive coach! I am all in! Good cop, BAD cop! Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I dont mind the result or all the weird decisions bringing on Gillmour and shit. But what really got my red alert going was when Lamps said we should have gone for the 3-0 to put the game to bed. That was just a bad reading of the game..this was not one of those days were everything works for you and just demolish the opposition. No it was a nervy low quality which our in form striker should have won for us. But as said in the match thread our game management was piss poor. Mourinho would have brought on Mikel and game over. We need to be able to do this. To have the option of just seeing an mediocre game out. There is no reason to keep the game open after a 2-0 lead.we have witnessed almost all kinds of fucking games up in within almost 5 games in the season. Obviously experienced teams or managers should have the edge in tight situations but this is just poor. With our defence even a 3-0 does not put the game to bed. Still Lamps talks about attacking better. We should work out our Defence first. I begin to think he has no real concept of defending apart from pressing. We really should seek some help tactically here. Oppositions always target exploiting Azpi with one twos and shit and it always works. The midfield does not offer enough protection for Zouma bc we got 0 DMs rn. The team is young, promising fun to watch but there needs to be some kind of professionalism to see these kinds of games out and neither the manager nor the more experienced players are providing it. Johnnyeye, BXL70 and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I dont mind the result or all the weird decisions bringing on Gillmour and shit. But what really got my red alert going was when Lamps said we should have gone for the 3-0 to put the game to bed. That was just a bad reading of the game..this was not one of those days were everything works for you and just demolish the opposition. No it was a nervy low quality which our in form striker should have won for us. But as said in the match thread our game management was piss poor. Mourinho would have brought on Mikel and game over. We need to be able to do this. To have the option of just seeing an mediocre game out. There is no reason to keep the game open after a 2-0 lead.we have witnessed almost all kinds of fucking games up in within almost 5 games in the season. Obviously experienced teams or managers should have the edge in tight situations but this is just poor. With our defence even a 3-0 does not put the game to bed. Still Lamps talks about attacking better. We should work out our Defence first. I begin to think he has no real concept of defending apart from pressing. We really should seek some help tactically here. Oppositions always target exploiting Azpi with one twos and shit and it always works. The midfield does not offer enough protection for Zouma bc we got 0 DMs rn. The team is young, promising fun to watch but there needs to be some kind of professionalism to see these kinds of games out and neither the manager nor the more experienced players are providing it. Last week, Lampard brought on an additional defender in Alonso to help see out the game at Norwich but didn't do that with Christensen yesterday. It's kinda bizarre really. Vybz Kartel, communicate, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Jason said: Last week, Lampard brought on an additional defender in Alonso to help see out the game at Norwich but didn't do that with Christensen yesterday. It's kinda bizarre really. Exactly. A small tactical decision like that could have helped us clinch the win. But he's being too naive. We have been dominated for a whole 45mins in the 2nd half in every match we've played this season except against Norwich. That is a big problem and Lamps has refused to make a tweak to address this. I don't want to believe he's too stubborn to notice this, but it's beginning to bug me. Why must we have a second half collapse every single match? Are the players just getting tired by halftime or is the opposition manager figuring out our tactics by halftime every game? Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: Exactly. A small tactical decision like that could have helped us clinch the win. But he's being too naive. We have been dominated for a whole 45mins in the 2nd half in every match we've played this season except against Norwich. That is a big problem and Lamps has refused to make a tweak to address this. I don't want to believe he's too stubborn to notice this, but it's beginning to bug me. Why must we have a second half collapse every single match? Are the players just getting tired by halftime or is the opposition manager figuring out our tactics by halftime every game? This. Plus its not just this season. Last time as well. The best 2nd half was the Europa final! Most the time we'd look sharp and then chaos for 45 minutes Johnnyeye and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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