CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 3 hours ago, chelseafan26 said: I just dont get the pedro love on here. In my opinion, the first 2 players out of the squad SHOULD be oscar and pedro. Atrocious Players. Definition of mediocrity. Tbf you know it's bad when you're pining for the return of the David Luiz and #AzpilicuetaOut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Ivanovic should no longer be within the plans of new coach Antonio Conte and ASRoma would like to take advantage of. (via @forzaroma) TheIceMan and bellion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 On 09/04/2016 at 5:56 PM, chelseafan26 said: I just dont get the pedro love on here. In my opinion, the first 2 players out of the squad SHOULD be oscar and pedro. Atrocious Players. Definition of mediocrity. Pedro would be a useful squad player, not sure this is what he wants though because he could have been that in a much better team. Oscar I agree should be shipped regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,853 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I like the vibe Conte is walking in with. I have an inkling he is distracted from his National Team job right now and seriously thinking about the Chelsea squad for next season. Also confident that the club will be able to secure transfers regardless of our lack of Champions League football. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 15 hours ago, manpe said: Pedro would be a useful squad player, not sure this is what he wants though because he could have been that in a much better team. Oscar I agree should be shipped regardless. So can kenedy/Traore/Musonda. In a season with no CL, the only use for a squad player will be playing domestic cups or when the first teamers are injured/sub role. I would rather that it be given to kids than a headless chicken. bellion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 layers Brandon Nick Dan Chidge Thibaut Courtois Keep Sell Keep Keep Asmir Begovic Keep Keep Sell Keep Cesar Azpilicueta Keep Keep Keep Keep Gary Cahill Sell Sell Keep Keep Branislav Ivanovic Keep Keep Keep Keep John Terry Keep Keep Keep Keep Kurt Zouma Keep Keep Keep Keep Baba Rahman Keep Keep Keep Keep Matt Miazga Keep Keep Keep Sell Eden Hazard Keep Sell Keep Keep Cesc Fabregas Keep Keep Keep Sell Ruben Loftus-Cheek Keep Keep Keep Keep Nemanja Matic Sell Keep Sell Sell John Obi Mikel Keep Sell Sell Keep Oscar Sell Sell Sell Sell Pedro Keep Sell Sell Sell Willian Keep Keep Keep Keep Kenedy Keep Keep Keep Keep Bertrand Traore Keep Keep Keep Keep Pato Sell Sell Sell Sell Remy Sell Sell Sell Sell Falcao Sell Sell Sell Sell Diego Costa Keep Keep Keep Keep Loved this article and piece from WAGNH. Mine would be something along the lines of Players Replacement Thibaut Courtois Keep X Asmir Begovic Keep X Cesar Azpilicueta Keep X Gary Cahill Sell Christensen Branislav Ivanovic Sell Ake John Terry Sell Hummels/New CB Kurt Zouma Keep X Baba Rahman Keep X Matt Miazga Keep X Eden Hazard Keep X Cesc Fabregas Sell Radja Ruben Loftus-Cheek Keep X Nemanja Matic Keep X John Obi Mikel Sell Vidal/Kante Oscar Sell Pjanic Pedro Sell Musonda Willian Keep X Kenedy Keep X Bertrand Traore Keep X Pato Sell Baker Remy Sell ? Falcao Sell ? Diego Costa Keep X TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 On 3/20/2016 at 1:26 AM, iseah100 said: 15 hours ago, Strike said: I like the vibe Conte is walking in with. I have an inkling he is distracted from his National Team job right now and seriously thinking about the Chelsea squad for next season. Also confident that the club will be able to secure transfers regardless of our lack of Champions League football. I I don't have the faith that you have in the Board in securing the right transfers. They won't back Conte which is why I believe he will be out of the Bridge in less than 6 months. The accountants have taken over and while CL football is an important goal, the main objective for them would be the biggest profits in transfers this summer. Sell Costa, Courtouis and Hazard while buying championship level players for a couple of million quid and a loanee or two. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1691 255 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, bellion said: I don't have the faith that you have in the Board in securing the right transfers. They won't back Conte which is why I believe he will be out of the Bridge in less than 6 months. The accountants have taken over and while CL football is an important goal, the main objective for them would be the biggest profits in transfers this summer. Sell Costa, Courtouis and Hazard while buying championship level players for a couple of million quid and a loanee or two. Stop making crap up, what you are saying is an utter fabrication. The board tried to support Jose, but his targets were unrealistic and the club were unable to get them. Going by the newsmedia reports, the club were clearly prepared to spend big money. EMK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 3 hours ago, kiwi1691 said: Stop making crap up, what you are saying is an utter fabrication. The board tried to support Jose, but his targets were unrealistic and the club were unable to get them. Going by the newsmedia reports, the club were clearly prepared to spend big money. It's an opinion not a fabrication so get that into that thick skull of yours. Stones was a perfectly realistic target and the Board fucked it up or rather they never wanted to spend the money and made a great pretense of it. Last minute inquiries for Marquinhos and Pogba made the whole summer transfer to be a bigger fiasco than it already was. The fact that two-bit players like Papy and Hector were the alternatives clearly indicates that the Board was NEVER into spending big money. If they were serious about it, there would be equivalent alternatives in terms of player quality. ZOS, the wes, chelseafan26 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTillIDie 0 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 from what I've seen on this site, we are pretty much dead on to get Sergio Ramos http://www.footballwhispers.com/players/sergio-ramos?to=chelsea if he stops getting sent off every week id be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 On 3/19/2016 at 1:58 PM, the wes said: does anybody rate kevin strootman even know hes had a few bad injuries?? Sounds like a career sunk by ACL injury so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Lacazette scoring yet again for Lyon on Friday. God I hope we're after not only Him but his teammate CB Samuel Umtiti too. Gotta raid OL for those two talents. lucio and TheIceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Arsenal confident of signing Granit Xhaka from Gladbach - sources http://www.espnfc.us/story/2854635/arsenal-confident-of-signing-granit-xhaka-sources Shouldn't we also be going for Xhaka? Since we need midfield. Yeboii and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 On 11/04/2016 at 3:54 PM, chelseafan26 said: layers Brandon Nick Dan Chidge Thibaut Courtois Keep Sell Keep Keep Asmir Begovic Keep Keep Sell Keep Cesar Azpilicueta Keep Keep Keep Keep Gary Cahill Sell Sell Keep Keep Branislav Ivanovic Keep Keep Keep Keep John Terry Keep Keep Keep Keep Kurt Zouma Keep Keep Keep Keep Baba Rahman Keep Keep Keep Keep Matt Miazga Keep Keep Keep Sell Eden Hazard Keep Sell Keep Keep Cesc Fabregas Keep Keep Keep Sell Ruben Loftus-Cheek Keep Keep Keep Keep Nemanja Matic Sell Keep Sell Sell John Obi Mikel Keep Sell Sell Keep Oscar Sell Sell Sell Sell Pedro Keep Sell Sell Sell Willian Keep Keep Keep Keep Kenedy Keep Keep Keep Keep Bertrand Traore Keep Keep Keep Keep Pato Sell Sell Sell Sell Remy Sell Sell Sell Sell Falcao Sell Sell Sell Sell Diego Costa Keep Keep Keep Keep Loved this article and piece from WAGNH. Mine would be something along the lines of Players Replacement Thibaut Courtois Keep X Asmir Begovic Keep X Cesar Azpilicueta Keep X Gary Cahill Sell Christensen Branislav Ivanovic Sell Ake John Terry Sell Hummels/New CB Kurt Zouma Keep X Baba Rahman Keep X Matt Miazga Keep X Eden Hazard Keep X Cesc Fabregas Sell Radja Ruben Loftus-Cheek Keep X Nemanja Matic Keep X John Obi Mikel Sell Vidal/Kante Oscar Sell Pjanic Pedro Sell Musonda Willian Keep X Kenedy Keep X Bertrand Traore Keep X Pato Sell Baker Remy Sell ? Falcao Sell ? Diego Costa Keep X I was going to post real life is not FIFA, but not even on FIFA you can't sell that many high wage players in a single transfer window I mean, how do you realistic expect us to get rid of all our experienced CBs, plus several midfield options, PLUS all bench strikers within 2 months? Not that I disagree with the players you want out, but its just not going to happen. Guys like Ivanovic, Terry, Fabegras, Remy and Falcao are definite names that must leave. However, I wouldnt mind keeping the likes of Cahill, Mikel, Oscar and Pedro. Signing new players is something expensive and as long as they arent required to play every week, there is indeed space for them to offer something. The real problem we have is buying the right individuals for the right positions. Not necessarily selling that many players. For instance, if we only get rid of the players I mentioned, we could go into next season with "only" a new CB, LB/RB, CM, CAM and backup ST. So, of the 5 hypothetical transfers, 3 are expensive (CB, CM and CAM), but 2 not so much. Which is whitin realms of reality imo. Spike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Mats Hummels, much like Sergio Ramos fits perfectly into the niche 'fantastic footballer, idiotic defender'. The best players aren't always the ones with an 85+ rating on videogames or the ones oft in the media circles. Never forget that Jose Fonte was once the best CB in England. I'll always pick an average player that elevates the team and fits into a philosophy over a fantastic player that is playing in a manner foreign. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Spike said: Mats Hummels, much like Sergio Ramos fits perfectly into the niche 'fantastic footballer, idiotic defender'. The best players aren't always the ones with an 85+ rating on videogames or the ones oft in the media circles. Never forget that Jose Fonte was once the best CB in England. I'll always pick an average player that elevates the team and fits into a philosophy over a fantastic player that is playing in a manner foreign. Completely agree but its funny both have won world cup and played super important roles there. That said I will always prefer no nonsense CB like Godin or Barzagli over Ramos, Hummels, Pique etc... Hummels is probably CB Im most dissapointed as I thought will become best CB in world but is making mistakes almost every game nowdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Rmpr said: I was going to post real life is not FIFA, but not even on FIFA you can't sell that many high wage players in a single transfer window I mean, how do you realistic expect us to get rid of all our experienced CBs, plus several midfield options, PLUS all bench strikers within 2 months? Not that I disagree with the players you want out, but its just not going to happen. Guys like Ivanovic, Terry, Fabegras, Remy and Falcao are definite names that must leave. However, I wouldnt mind keeping the likes of Cahill, Mikel, Oscar and Pedro. Signing new players is something expensive and as long as they arent required to play every week, there is indeed space for them to offer something. The real problem we have is buying the right individuals for the right positions. Not necessarily selling that many players. For instance, if we only get rid of the players I mentioned, we could go into next season with "only" a new CB, LB/RB, CM, CAM and backup ST. So, of the 5 hypothetical transfers, 3 are expensive (CB, CM and CAM), but 2 not so much. Which is whitin realms of reality imo. Fair enough mate. Though i have a bit different thinking about the bench players. First of all,getting rid of Iva, JT, cesc, Pato and Falcao wont fetch us anything. Simply free our wages. Considering how our board has been working, we will be spending what we earn. Now coming onto the bench players like Oscar, Pedro, Mikel, Cahill. I just dont see the point of keeping them around. Infact, I would sell them and keep JT, iva, Cesc if given an option. These players not only have a good market value and fetch us good amounts, but also, these are the players who make us the most mediocre. Oscar can be replaced with Baker (considering we shift to 4-3-3 so we are just looking at CMs not no.10) and perform a better role. Pedro for me has been one of the worst performers. Again if we play 4-3-3, then we have hazard, willian, cuadrado for wing position. Give the 4th spot to Kenedy/musonda. Cahill is simply not good enough. Another one who can get us some fee. If the option for the 4th CB spot is between GC and JT then I would much rather have JT. For the 3rd CB position (zouma and new CB being the 1st 2), I would definitely have Andreas. Cahill is not good enough to be the 3rd choice. Mikel has been a great servant. But we need him to leave. Irrespective of who else we are keeping, Mikel needs to go. He simply is not good enough. I dont play Fifa. My kids do though. But i can get the analogy. Is not what has happened this season also Fifa-ish (I think you mean unrealistic by that). I am not advocating buying 10 new players, but simply replacing half of them with our youth while the other half with some high profile signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 My dream team for next season: Goalkeepers: Courtois, Begovic Defenders: Bonucci, Stones, Zouma, Terry -- Azpilicueta, Ake, Baba Midfielders: Pjanic, Nainggolan, Kante, RLC, Baker Attackers: Willian, Pedro, Traore, Costa, Hazard, Griezmann/Dybala On loan: Christensen, Musonda, Solanke, Kenedy, Miazga. Sell: Salah, Cuadrado, Oscar, Mikel, Matic, Cesc, Cahill, Ivanovic, Remy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 10 hours ago, chelseafan26 said: Fair enough mate. Though i have a bit different thinking about the bench players. First of all,getting rid of Iva, JT, cesc, Pato and Falcao wont fetch us anything. Simply free our wages. Considering how our board has been working, we will be spending what we earn. Now coming onto the bench players like Oscar, Pedro, Mikel, Cahill. I just dont see the point of keeping them around. Infact, I would sell them and keep JT, iva, Cesc if given an option. These players not only have a good market value and fetch us good amounts, but also, these are the players who make us the most mediocre. Oscar can be replaced with Baker (considering we shift to 4-3-3 so we are just looking at CMs not no.10) and perform a better role. Pedro for me has been one of the worst performers. Again if we play 4-3-3, then we have hazard, willian, cuadrado for wing position. Give the 4th spot to Kenedy/musonda. Cahill is simply not good enough. Another one who can get us some fee. If the option for the 4th CB spot is between GC and JT then I would much rather have JT. For the 3rd CB position (zouma and new CB being the 1st 2), I would definitely have Andreas. Cahill is not good enough to be the 3rd choice. Mikel has been a great servant. But we need him to leave. Irrespective of who else we are keeping, Mikel needs to go. He simply is not good enough. I dont play Fifa. My kids do though. But i can get the analogy. Is not what has happened this season also Fifa-ish (I think you mean unrealistic by that). I am not advocating buying 10 new players, but simply replacing half of them with our youth while the other half with some high profile signings. Well, like I said before, I agree with your evaluations. I just dont think its nearly as easy to offloads those players as you think. JT, Pato and Falcao are execptions as their contracts end. However, all other players are hard to get rid off. In order to sell players of the caliber of Oscar, Fabregas, Pedro and Cahill; we would need to find a club who can afford their wages and transfer fee and, at the same time, is atractive enough for them to accept the move. They all have families, etc. Its not simple! Replacing players is complicated too. There are numerous expenses to count for: juridical, medical, traveling and housing for the first few months, agent fees, etc. Its easier to just stay with the current players imo. They already have their routine in place and so on. Not to count the fact those individuals are not too bad for bench options. I mean, which bench player in England is better than Cahill or Mikel? Apart from City, which bench midfielder is better than Oscar or Pedro? Also, Chelsea has a hard enough task by signing at least top 3-4 players. Imagine having to do that plus filling in bench options. It will only unnecessary deviate the board from its true objective... EDIT: In resume, what I am trying to say is that I believe CFC should try to first do the basic. Lets sign the key pieces we need and then use the new season to reevaluate our current squad. Who knows, maybe some of them regain form with Conte, but if they dont, they will not be first options anyways. Essien19 and chelseafan26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 2 hours ago, !Hazard! said: My dream team for next season: Goalkeepers: Courtois, Begovic Defenders: Bonucci, Stones, Zouma, Terry -- Azpilicueta, Ake, Baba Midfielders: Pjanic, Nainggolan, Kante, RLC, Baker Attackers: Willian, Pedro, Traore, Costa, Hazard, Griezmann/Dybala On loan: Christensen, Musonda, Solanke, Kenedy, Miazga. Sell: Salah, Cuadrado, Oscar, Mikel, Matic, Cesc, Cahill, Ivanovic, Remy I love your midfield I doubt we could get griezmann or dybala tho Lacazette would be perfect and wouldn't be hard to sign as well and I rather bring back Christensen than sign stones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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