nadavTKL 1,787 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 How much do you think Kondogbia is worth at the moment? Could we get him for a reasonable fee?It's being reported that Imbula could go for less than 20m euros. I don't know about Kondogbia, I would guess 30m or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I like Imbula but he's not chelsea quality. He could make it at liverpool,spurs but not here IMO.Kondogbia is a real quality player, potential elite. I'd love him here. Monaco paid around 20m€ for him. They would want at least 30 but I think they would rather keep him than sell for that kind of fee.How about Kondogbia passing ? I didn't notice that when I watched him though in not too many matches. I saw extensive highlights recently and from that I'm not impressed at all. I actually think that Imbula and Kondogbia are on similar level, good physique, good technique, left foot but something is wrong there and they are too unimaginative with their passing. Imbula sometimes shows a great promise especially with long balls but dunno about Kondogbia.We need creative midfielder who is also good in defence with good pressing abilities and tackling. Someone who can win this ball and transit it quickly. I watched a potential candidates recently in Imbula, Kondogbia, Schneiderlin, Witsel and no one has knack to be creative. Usually safe, unimaginative passing. How they are supposed to create in Chelsea deadly counter-attacking machine against big sides ? Just for curiosity I wanted to see how it looks on Modric highlights and wtf, first 2 minutes and I already see exactly what I want to see.The only option I see that we should splash the cash and get Koke. Essien19, kellzfresh and Mufassir08 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 How about Kondogbia passing ? I didn't notice that when I watched him though in not too many matches. I saw extensive highlights recently and from that I'm not impressed at all. I actually think that Imbula and Kondogbia are on similar level, good physique, good technique, left foot but something is wrong there and they are too unimaginative with their passing. Imbula sometimes shows a great promise especially with long balls but dunno about Kondogbia.We need creative midfielder who is also good in defence with good pressing abilities and tackling. Someone who can win this ball and transit it quickly. I watched a potential candidates recently in Imbula, Kondogbia, Schneiderlin, Witsel and no one has knack to be creative. Usually safe, unimaginative passing. How they are supposed to create in Chelsea deadly counter-attacking machine against big sides ? Just for curiosity I wanted to see how it looks on Modric highlights and wtf, first 2 minutes and I already see exactly what I want to see.The only option I see that we should splash the cash and get Koke.If you're looking for creative midfielders you've been watching the wrong players. Schneiderlin is a n6 who can also play 8. Imbula and Kondogbia are box to box players. Imbula has a great left foot but Kondo is more powerful, better defensively and he plays really great balls forward after he takes it. I wouldn't even look at Imbula because we have a better player in Ramires IMO.I don't think we lack creativity in the midfield. We already have Cesc and Matic is good when we are in possession, but both are too slow to play at high intensity especially in europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 If we're betting on Colkett (and that's not a bad punt at all) Schweinsteiger would be a good temp option - his only weakness is that his pace is deteriorating.Koke doesn't want to leave and with Cesc here in his prime it just doesn't make sense imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 If you're looking for creative midfielders you've been watching the wrong players. Schneiderlin is a n6 who can also play 8. Imbula and Kondogbia are box to box players. Imbula has a great left foot but Kondo is more powerful, better defensively and he plays really great balls forward after he takes it. I wouldn't even look at Imbula because we have a better player in Ramires IMO.I don't think we lack creativity in the midfield. We already have Cesc and Matic is good when we are in possession, but both are too slow to play at high intensity especially in europe.Why explaining poor passing ability by saying that he's box to box player ? I'm not looking for number 10 ffs but someone who can tackle, apply pressing, is physical and mainly can play quick, initial forward pass keeping flow of the attack. I see lots of similar disability in Imbula and Kondogbia, they play the pass that so often will interrupt transition by playing yard or 2 yards too backward. That's Ramires style. I want someone who can do this smoothly. Schneiderling sometimes looks like that player.Cesc has shown for many years how awful he is against big sides, let him do his job by destroying small sides until January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Moussa Sissoko: "Is Mourinho following my progress? According to what I am hearing, yes." (RMC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Sissoko is actually one of the few PL players playing for a mid-/bottom table team I'd love to have in our squad. He'd be absolutely fantastic in a midfield-3 with Matic and Fabregas and I'm rarely talking this excitedly about a player nowadays. Shame there won't be a transfer, though. Leif and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Why explaining poor passing ability by saying that he's box to box player ? I'm not looking for number 10 ffs but someone who can tackle, apply pressing, is physical and mainly can play quick, initial forward pass keeping flow of the attack. I see lots of similar disability in Imbula and Kondogbia, they play the pass that so often will interrupt transition by playing yard or 2 yards too backward. That's Ramires style. I want someone who can do this smoothly. Schneiderling sometimes looks like that player.Cesc has shown for many years how awful he is against big sides, let him do his job by destroying small sides until January.I agree with that assessment.Nainggolan and Moutinho fit the mould perfectly and are realistic targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Shame there won't be a transfer, though.If Mourinho wants him, why not? seems an easy target.I dont know how i rate him, playing for this awful Newcastle team and the managers he had, making it hard to know how good he is. He's better than Ramires, thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Why explaining poor passing ability by saying that he's box to box player ? I'm not looking for number 10 ffs but someone who can tackle, apply pressing, is physical and mainly can play quick, initial forward pass keeping flow of the attack. I see lots of similar disability in Imbula and Kondogbia, they play the pass that so often will interrupt transition by playing yard or 2 yards too backward. That's Ramires style. I want someone who can do this smoothly. Schneiderling sometimes looks like that player.I get what you mean, but i think Imbula' passing is very smooth, not sure about Kondogbia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Moussa Sissoko: "Is Mourinho following my progress? According to what I am hearing, yes." (RMC)Replace Rammy/Mikel with this guy. Preferably the former because Matic is our only real DM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,869 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'd love to see Sissoko at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'd love to see Sissoko at Chelsea.Maybe dumb question: Mohammed or Moussa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,869 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Maybe dumb question: Mohammed or Moussa?Moussa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michalcfc 69 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'd love to see Sissoko at Chelsea.What for? He's nowhere near the level we aspire to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,869 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 What for? He's nowhere near the level we aspire to be.He's better than Mikel and as a back up player can play a really good role. It's a long season, we need better options, but without paying the 20-30M for players to sit around. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Why do people want to replace Mikel with Sissoko? Moussa isn't a defensive midfielder. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If Mourinho wants him, why not? seems an easy target.I dont know how i rate him, playing for this awful Newcastle team and the managers he had, making it hard to know how good he is. He's better than Ramires, thats for sure.My pessimism has nothing to do with our FO's ability to convince players to join us but with the fact that it's just the beginning of June. Rumors around this time of the year hold almost no value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think Mikel It is absolutely essential for Jose to close the games with adjusted results. Most likely, he will be with us next season.Moussa Sissoko is a good player, but perhaps a notch lower than Pogba, Koke or Gundogan. I think it's different than Mikel.Right now is a time of indifinicion from the press on transfer issues.I expect four or five signings as much (counting another goalkeeper), but will be three or four big signings: a Centre-back? - a Midfield? - a Right Winger? and a Pure Forward ?. I do not know, right now all are doubts.And players like Oscar or Cuadrado may leave.To be honest, I think that what we need is Ikay Gundogan ...Regards. Fernando and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! kellzfresh 7,229 Posted June 2, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted June 2, 2015 I think Mikel It is absolutely essential for Jose to close the games with adjusted results. Most likely, he will be with us next season.Moussa Sissoko is a good player, but perhaps a notch lower than Pogba, Koke or Gundogan. I think it's different than Mikel.Right now is a time of indifinicion from the press on transfer issues.I expect four or five signings as much (counting another goalkeeper), but will be three or four big signings: a Centre-back? - a Midfield? - a Right Winger? and a Pure Forward ?. I do not know, right now all are doubts.And players like Oscar or Cuadrado may leave.To be honest, I think that what we need is Ikay Gundogan ... Regards.Mourinho will get his physical box to box player and his left footed rightwinger eventually. In all his other teams(2005chelsea, intermilan, Madrid) One Att fullback, experienced back four DM and physical box to box midfielder Left-footed and right-footed wingers Through pass AmInfluential striker Attacking fullbacks - cole, maicon, marcelo and now ivanovic Dm & physical box to box - Makelele & essien/lamps, motta & stankovic, Alonso & Khedira and now Matic & ??? Vertical passing AM - joecole/lamps, Sneijder, ozil and now fabregas Right-footed and left-footed wingers - joecole & robben, eto & pandev, cRonaldo & dimaria, and now hazard & ???Influential unselfish striker - drogba, Milito, benzema, and now costa We're missing two pieces of the Mourinho team puzzle imo. He'll eventually get it. Madmax, Blue-in-me-Veins, nadavTKL and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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