Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[the wes 7,212]

From Dybala to Mario Mandžukić 😂😂😂 I know what player I would want lol I hope utd get Mario Mandžukić 😂😂😂

[Vesper 30,171]

31 minutes ago, Tomo said:

CAM's the one position i'm not too fussed about, i feel Ruben and Mount deserve the opportunity to make the spot their own in the coming years. The only player i'm really bothered about and see as a missed chance is Pepe, the rest of the big transfers would have either never choose us over the clubs they went to (De Jong, Rodri, Greiamann, Jovic) or have blocked our talent long term (Dybala, AWB, De Ligt). 

de Ligt would have blocked who?  lolol Luiz? Zouma? Tomori???? roflmaooooooooooooo

None of those 3 are good enough, Rudiger is, and maybe AC, but AC is more like a 3rd CB, we need to buy 2 CB's next summer, no doubt about it

de Ligt would have never come here, but you cannot say he would have blocked anyone of import, AND he is only 19

[Tomo 21,751]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

de Ligt would have blocked who?  lolol Luiz? Zouma? Tomori???? roflmaooooooooooooo

None of those 3 are good enough, Rudiger is, and maybe AC, but AC is more like a 3rd CB, we need to buy 2 CB's next summer, no doubt about it

de Ligt would have never come here, but you cannot say he would have blocked anyone of import, AND he is only 19

I'm thinking/hoping AC's form at the end of last season is a trajectory back to what we saw at the start under Conte (he was incredible in my opinion, made it look so easy) while i'm hoping the club see Ethan as a long term CB (for me he has elite potential in CB but will amount to nothing more than good in midfield). So with that in mind i'd prefer a prime CB.

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Pep Guardiola hits back at Jurgen Klopp's 'fantasy land' spending jibes

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/08/02/pep-guardiola-hits-back-jurgen-klopps-fantasy-land-spending/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

Pep Guardiola has hit back at Jurgen Klopp’s jibes over Manchester City’s “fantasy land” spending.  Guardiola has spent in excess of half a billion pounds en route to winning back-to-back Premier League titles and turning City into the country’s dominant side following last season’s domestic treble.

But, on the eve of Sunday’s Community Shield clash against Liverpool at Wembley, the City manager has reacted angrily to Klopp’s claims that City, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Paris St-Germain operate in “this fantasia land where you just get whatever you want” that his side cannot compete with.

“Does it bother me? Of course it bothers me because it’s not true that we spent £200 million every window,” Guardiola said. “That is not true.

“So it’s Liverpool - you’ll never walk alone - it’s not a small team, it’s Liverpool. So of course I don't like it [Klopp’s comments] because it's not true.”

City broke their club record to sign Spain midfielder Rodri from Atletico Madrid for £62.8m this summer and have also paid the £5.35m buyback clause to re-sign left back Angelino from PSV Eindhoven.

The champions’ record outlay is a fraction of some of the sums lavished by Real, Barcelona and PSG and Liverpool’s two most expensive purchases - £75m defender Virgil van Dijk and £66m goalkeeper Alisson - are more costly recruits than City’s record buy.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

Yes, we all would like to sign new players but christ, all this panicking before the season has even started is just so...typical. EVERY. FUCKING. SINGLE. SEASON.

Im not panicking, just obvious holes we have to take care of with quality additions. We cant but anyone atm so there aint much we can do. But next summer we need to Invest good. And the other teams have def improved on paper, but we too will be good imo, im sure we will be well up for a fight.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Pep Guardiola hits back at Jurgen Klopp's 'fantasy land' spending jibes

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/08/02/pep-guardiola-hits-back-jurgen-klopps-fantasy-land-spending/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

Pep Guardiola has hit back at Jurgen Klopp’s jibes over Manchester City’s “fantasy land” spending.  Guardiola has spent in excess of half a billion pounds en route to winning back-to-back Premier League titles and turning City into the country’s dominant side following last season’s domestic treble.

But, on the eve of Sunday’s Community Shield clash against Liverpool at Wembley, the City manager has reacted angrily to Klopp’s claims that City, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Paris St-Germain operate in “this fantasia land where you just get whatever you want” that his side cannot compete with.

“Does it bother me? Of course it bothers me because it’s not true that we spent £200 million every window,” Guardiola said. “That is not true.

“So it’s Liverpool - you’ll never walk alone - it’s not a small team, it’s Liverpool. So of course I don't like it [Klopp’s comments] because it's not true.”

City broke their club record to sign Spain midfielder Rodri from Atletico Madrid for £62.8m this summer and have also paid the £5.35m buyback clause to re-sign left back Angelino from PSV Eindhoven.

The champions’ record outlay is a fraction of some of the sums lavished by Real, Barcelona and PSG and Liverpool’s two most expensive purchases - £75m defender Virgil van Dijk and £66m goalkeeper Alisson - are more costly recruits than City’s record buy.

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Pep has no ground at all to talk, the only reason they are not getting more players is cuz they are under the tosh with UEFA, have spent immense under Pep and are stacked. Pep should just keep quiet.

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

CAM's the one position i'm not too fussed about, i feel Ruben and Mount deserve the opportunity to make the spot their own in the coming years. The only player i'm really bothered about and see as a missed chance is Pepe, the rest of the big transfers would have either never choose us over the clubs they went to (De Jong, Rodri, Greiamann, Jovic) or have blocked our talent long term (Dybala, AWB, De Ligt). 

Pepe signing will kinda halt Cho development. You kinda have to play pepe when you sign him for 70 m pound. 

In reality, if we don't need any signing except maybe a wc lb otherwise we are set. 

RB - Reece james

CB - we have 4 cb unless you consider Andreas, zouma and Ruddiger not good enough

LB - upgrade maybe but who

CM - we are loaded. Maybe without the ban, ndombele next to Kante can be interesting. 

Winger - Puli, CHO

Striker - Tammy

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29 minutes ago, Vesper said:

de Ligt would have blocked who?  lolol Luiz? Zouma? Tomori???? roflmaooooooooooooo

None of those 3 are good enough, Rudiger is, and maybe AC, but AC is more like a 3rd CB, we need to buy 2 CB's next summer, no doubt about it

de Ligt would have never come here, but you cannot say he would have blocked anyone of import, AND he is only 19

I am not fussed about de light or de Jong. They won't come here. 

Pepe a bit but we have CHO and Puli. 

[Vesper 30,171]

Just now, Tomo said:

I'm thinking/hoping AC's form at the end of last season is a trajectory back to what we saw at the start under Conte (he was incredible in my opinion, made it look so easy) while i'm hoping the club see Ethan as a long term CB (for me he has elite potential in CB but will amount to nothing more than good in midfield).

de Ligt s already a top 5 or so CB in the world, and will end up being the best someday down the road, more than likely

that level of talent doesn't block anything

it helps to make a team world class

I like AC, but he isn't even in the same postal code as de Ligt

Ampadu is so young (7 and half years younger than Rudiger) that by the time he is AC's age for this season (23 - 24), Rudiger will be 31, 32 and done as top player

I have doubts, real doubts that Tomori is going to be a top Chels player, he turns 22yo in 4 months and is nowhere near EPL starting level yet, this potential Everton loan is close to a make or break for his future here, and their supporters are not happy at all, they do not want him, they want Zouma, as does the ownership

Luiz is close to dregs, Zouma would (or at least SHOULD) be gone if not for the bans

I will go so far as to make this definitive statement:

Whilst I understand we are fucked this year in terms of the bans (and I made peace with it long ago, far before most here even believed me when I said the bans were a done deal and we would not even appeal, and/or would fail in an appeal) there is NO WAY we can hope to compete for the league and the CL without a big upgrade overall in our CB's, especially if AC has (dog forbid) a regression this year.

You can add in RB too IF Reece James doesnt not come good, which I expect him to do. Emerson appears to be back up to superb Roma form, but again, dog forbid if we gets hurt or somehow regresses.

Our clear weaknesses are so easy to list

CB for sure, we are shambolic there atm, especially with Rudiger out

Potentially fullback (Reece is injured and Azpi looked horrific last game)

and CF (I am not sold on any of the 3, hope 1 and maybe 2 come good)

those all need to be sorted out (plus winger, especially if CHO  doesn't recover well from his Achilles rupture) next summer

MF and GK are fine atm

 

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22 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Pep has no ground at all to talk, the only reason they are not getting more players is cuz they are under the tosh with UEFA, have spent immense under Pep and are stacked. Pep should just keep quiet.

Klopp was the one who started it, and Shitty is more quantity buys than truly huge Barca, Real, PSG insanity. Rodri at only £63m is their alltime record.

[NikkiCFC 8,318]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

But this potential XI:

----------Martial---------Dybala-----------Rashford

-------------------Fernandes-----Pogba------------------

Shaw----------Maguire-----------Lindelof------------AWB

---------------------------DDG----------------------------

Looks pretty damn strong. Certainly MUCH better than what they've had in recent years.

Looks good. Imagine if they actually play with 11 players 😂

[Pizy 18,903]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Yes, we all would like to sign new players but christ, all this panicking before the season has even started is just so...typical. EVERY. FUCKING. SINGLE. SEASON.

I'm actually kind of excited to see how we do with zero expectations this season. No one is going to pick us to finish top 4 or win any titles. We're kind of the dark horse.

Anyways, just looked at the trends on Twitter and the hashtag #FreeZouma is trending worldwide. 😂 Everton are desperate for him to come back.

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3 minutes ago, communicate said:

I am not fussed about de light or de Jong. They won't come here. 

Pepe a bit but we have CHO and Puli. 

pretty much where I am at (and have said so)

I just am not buying the meme that de Ligt would NOT have been (if he did come) an insanely good buy as he would have supposedly blocked our talent at CB

and yes, Pepe is the only one so far I am gutted on. Well, Lucas Hernández too.

 

Dybala and Icardi may do the same to me (but less so than last year), and if (I doubt he will leave at all) Saúl Ñíguez

Zaha too (but only if we buy him for CF)

next year the ones I will snap on if they move (and not to us) will be Mbappe, Jadon Sancho, maybe Ousmane Dembélé

and at CF (if no Mbappe for CF, or Zaha for CF, or Martial at CF, then Iñaki Williams there at CF) <<<< you can see my type of CF is a pure speed merchant, Williams and Zaha in a double CF setup would be a terror (it goes without saying Mbappe would terrorise anywhere you put him)

and CB-wise

José Giménez (so doubt he moves though), Milan Skriniar, Rúben Dias, Evan N'Dicka, Alessio Romagnoli (probably will not leave) and especially Ibrahima Konaté 

we simply MUST grab one of those 6, or something equal (of which there are not many actually available) next summer

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6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

pretty much where I am at (and have said so)

I just am not buying the meme that de Ligt would NOT have been (if he did come) an insanely good buy as he would have supposedly blocked our talent at CB

and yes, Pepe is the only one so far I am gutted on. Well, Lucas Hernández too.

 

Dybala and Icardi may do the same to me (but less so than last year), and if (I doubt he will leave at all) Saúl Ñíguez

Zaha too (but only if we buy him for CF)

next year the ones I will snap on if they move (and not to us) will be Mbappe, Jadon Sancho, maybe Ousmane Dembélé

and at CF (if no Mbappe for CF, or Zaha for CF, or Martial at CF, then Iñaki Williams there at CF) <<<< you can see my type of CF is a pure speed merchant, Williams and Zaha in a double CF setup would be a terror (it goes without saying Mbappe would terrorise anywhere you put him)

and CB-wise

José Giménez (so doubt he moves though), Milan Skriniar, Rúben Dias, Evan N'Dicka, Alessio Romagnoli (probably will not leave) and especially Ibrahima Konaté 

we simply MUST grab one of those 6, or something equal (of which there are not many actually available) next summer

Lucas hernandez fee is 80m euro. It is more than Puli and that was a straight up because I think it was his release clause. 

I am not big fan of Dybala and Icardi. Dybala is an ss or no 10 whatever you want to call it. Unless you are a freaking Messi, I am not fond of no 10. 

Icardi has problematic agent so next. 

CB wise, I will wait on what kind of team that Lamp want to build then we can have a sense who will we need in term of cb. Take for example maguire for 80m. He is not exactly the most athletic player, so I don't think he is suited if we want to play tons of transition football. 

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2 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Im not panicking, just obvious holes we have to take care of with quality additions. We cant but anyone atm so there aint much we can do. But next summer we need to Invest good. And the other teams have def improved on paper, but we too will be good imo, im sure we will be well up for a fight.

The main concern I have - am sure everyone does as well - is our strikers. We are found wanting in that position. Otherwise with what we have right now, think we'll be okay for this season at least, as long as the players put in the shifts week in week out. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

I'm actually kind of excited to see how we do with zero expectations this season. No one is going to pick us to finish top 4 or win any titles. We're kind of the dark horse.

This might actually be a proper transition season for us. It has been thrown around a bit in last 2-3 seasons but we were still expected to challenge for major trophies. This season will be a free hit. If we can finish in the top 4/win a trophy, it'll be great. Otherwise, am expecting more on improvement from the players and team as a whole. It needs to be about laying the foundation for the future.

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Anyways, just looked at the trends on Twitter and the hashtag #FreeZouma is trending worldwide. 😂 Everton are desperate for him to come back.

Not convinced will suit what Lampard wants from this team. He and Luiz in defence are disasters waiting to happen, IMO. Will be happy if I'm proven wrong though.

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On 30/07/2019 at 4:14 PM, Vesper said:

here are a tonne of other options

 

they missed out on Amadou Diawara from Napoli, roma stole him for only £19m

so

FSV Mainz 05’s Jean-Philippe Gbamin, (a fucking BEAST, this is who I would go for)

 Nailed it

Everton sign midfielder Gbamin from Mainz for £25m

https://www.goal.com/en/news/everton-sign-midfielder-gbamin-from-mainz-05/fdbvj4tmuq741ako7knmcd09b

 

 

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15 hours ago, Vesper said:

Klopp was the one who started it, and Shitty is more quantity buys than truly huge Barca, Real, PSG insanity. Rodri at only £63m is their alltime record.

They both have no grounds to walk on, and pep may have not paid over 65m for a player while in city, but he sure as hell has spent alot. He spent 250 alone on his defence in 1 window was it? He is a chek book manager as good as he is.

13 hours ago, Jason said:

The main concern I have - am sure everyone does as well - is our strikers. We are found wanting in that position. Otherwise with what we have right now, think we'll be okay for this season at least, as long as the players put in the shifts week in week out. 

Since the Costa issue we have lacked a striker. And we seemingly cannot sort it out, could have got Piatek, but opted for an old and super slow Higs instead. Yes if we can go fight mode then im all happy, desire and hunger will do us plenty good.

[Strike 7,489]

14 hours ago, Jason said:

This might actually be a proper transition season for us. It has been thrown around a bit in last 2-3 seasons but we were still expected to challenge for major trophies. This season will be a free hit. If we can finish in the top 4/win a trophy, it'll be great. Otherwise, am expecting more on improvement from the players and team as a whole. It needs to be about laying the foundation for the future.

Not convinced will suit what Lampard wants from this team. He and Luiz in defence are disasters waiting to happen, IMO. Will be happy if I'm proven wrong though.

I am convinced by now there is no such thing as a transition season. The club, board make things up as they go along

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

28 minutes ago, Strike said:

I am convinced by now there is no such thing as a transition season. The club, board make things up as they go along

Of course there is you've just sold your best player, you can't buy new ones, and you've got a rookie manager. Anyone can see it's going to be a tough season it's not something the club made up it's blindingly obvious.