Juan Mata

[didierforever 7,349]

  On 03/01/2014 at 19:42, The only place to be said:

I think the point is that selling Mata know would probably bring in more money than down then road, and that extra cash helps us strengthen the squad.

  On 03/01/2014 at 19:42, The only place to be said:

I think the point is that selling Mata know would probably bring in more money than down then road, and that extra cash helps us strengthen the squad.

again how? selling kdb gets us 25mil (ideally), 20 mil (realistically) and that is right now.

mata would fetch us 25-35mil in the summer and would fectch us about the same right now.

we will be buying guarin in place of him. surely we wont buy a striker like falcao/cavani right now (lewa is already done). so again how does selling mata for even if it is 10mil more right now, help us in improving our squad. sell kdb, get the money, buy a CM. in summer do all the chopping and cutting. think how influential mata must be in the squad and the effect his loss would make. selling mata right now makes no sense.

[Korea 734]

  On 03/01/2014 at 19:36, didierforever said:

i have not turned on him once. mata will go but selling off mata right now makes as much sense as your replies.

mata may not have been in jose's plans but it takes time to phase off a player who has literally been carrying the team for the last 2 seasons.

cech started his career as a striker too, lets play him there cos all we care about is where people played during their formative years not where they have become world class superstars., right? just goes on to show how great your thinking is.

your reasoning is makes 0 sense.

again let me stress my point. we are not swansea. we are at this moment fighting for winning the PREMIER LEAGUE, not top 4, not top half of the table. We want to keep players who can help us win the PL as well as perform well in the CL and FA cup. for that we need squad strength. selling mata at this moment with not even half a decent option will be weaking our squad, not strengthing it. playing torres and etoo is not the way forward to win the PL and put up a fight for CL.

selling off mata at this moment solves NOTHING. and why do u want to sell him? cos he waved his hand twice after getting subbed off, or threw a tantrum for 30 seconds. well this seems like a perfectly legit reason to sell our POTY for the last 2 seasons.

also for the last time, tell me exactly how selling mata off STRENGTHENS our squad. dont give me shit like torres and etoo and ba have played on the wings so they can play and rambo can play too on the wings (like we have de rossi, alonso and pirlo as backs up and can afford to play rambo on the wings). actually tell me how it would make us better.

This guy is funny.

Had Hazard or Oscar done the same thing Mata did, he would of went all out on a witch hunt and called them pathetic and more....

I know mata is your god, but Mata isnt as good as you claim him to be.

[didierforever 7,349]

  On 03/01/2014 at 19:49, Korea said:

This guy is funny.

Had Hazard or Oscar done the same thing Mata did, he would of went all out on a witch hunt and called them pathetic and more....

I know mata is your god, but Mata isnt as good as you claim him to be.

i might be funny but your continous negligence of my one and only question

also for the last time, tell me exactly how selling mata off STRENGTHENS our squad. dont give me shit like torres and etoo and ba have played on the wings so they can play and rambo can play too on the wings (like we have de rossi, alonso and pirlo as backs up and can afford to play rambo on the wings). actually tell me how it would make us better.

tells me exactly what u r. a troll who knows shit all. so once u grow a brain, then reply back.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

  On 03/01/2014 at 19:49, Korea said:

This guy is funny.

Had Hazard or Oscar done the same thing Mata did, he would of went all out on a witch hunt and called them pathetic and more....

I know mata is your god, but Mata isnt as good as you claim him to be.

Lol says the guy that who thinks Ki is good enough for Chelsea.

[Barbara 15,149]

  On 03/01/2014 at 17:40, Pizy said:

It's all Barbara's fault.

One should never boob-bomb a thread and expect it not to be derailed.

we better talk about boobs than argue about Mata - given how heated the discussion was.

I regret nothing

Come on, Jason, everyone has boobs... this is mainly a men forum. Don't be so shy

[Namika 922]

José is in love.

[Pizy 18,548]

I kind of expected Juan to apologize on twitter or something, honestly. He seems like the kind of person who would do that.

Something like "I know I shouldn't have reacted that way and am happy that the team won," or something. Or say how hard he's going to work to earn his place back.

[Pizy 18,548]

  On 03/01/2014 at 23:08, iceboy said:

Tweet him.

Ha!

I'm not upset or anything about the situation since I'd probably have been pissed too. Just kind of adds fuel to the speculation that he indeed isn't happy here. It's a bit like the Rooney situation over this past summer. He could've ended all speculation and rumor with a single tweet but just kept quiet. Makes me believe that he genuinely wanted to leave.

[Spike 12,049]

Maybe play Mata as a FALSE-NINE

DUN DUN DUN

[Korea 734]

  On 03/01/2014 at 20:46, bimtf said:

Lol says the guy that who thinks Ki is good enough for Chelsea.

Your still mad about this right... Its, ok!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTLml1XRDxQ

  On 03/01/2014 at 19:54, didierforever said:

i might be funny but your continous negligence of my one and only question

also for the last time, tell me exactly how selling mata off STRENGTHENS our squad. dont give me shit like torres and etoo and ba have played on the wings so they can play and rambo can play too on the wings (like we have de rossi, alonso and pirlo as backs up and can afford to play rambo on the wings). actually tell me how it would make us better.

tells me exactly what u r. a troll who knows shit all. so once u grow a brain, then reply back.

Whats growing your brain? You mean using your brain? lol

Its ok, daddy will disappoint you at the end and your going to have to choose between your love for Mata or Mourinho...

[Tomo 21,741]

From his recent quotes about ringing up the board and telling them not to let him go, Jose clearly admires Mata on a personal level just as much as the fans do, so lets hope these conspiracy's that Jose has an ego driven agenda will stop.

Mourinho makes decision's that he believe have the best benefit for Chelsea, and by doing that that means head has to come before heart.

[didierforever 7,349]

  On 04/01/2014 at 06:03, Korea said:

Your still mad about this right... Its, ok!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTLml1XRDxQ

Whats growing your brain? You mean using your brain? lol

Its ok, daddy will disappoint you at the end and your going to have to choose between your love for Mata or Mourinho...

my love for chelsea will triumph both of those things. but your love for KI seems to be going strong. so keep on trolling this forum while supporting sunderland.

also GROW a brain is self explanatory cos u dont have one. unfortunately u would not even understand that, would u? its alright, keep embarassing urself.

[5354 204]

I mean from Mourinho's point of view. If you had a great player in the squad but not playing to your expectation, you would have rather him staying than him leaving the squad. Isn't it?

The decision now lies with Mata. As a top-class player, would you rather sit on the bench or play only 60mins? No way!

But Mourinho played it very well in the media, making it looked as if Mata was the one who wants to leave, and deflecting the blame to Mata.

[Korea 734]

  On 04/01/2014 at 06:19, didierforever said:

my love for chelsea will triumph both of those things. but your love for KI seems to be going strong. so keep on trolling this forum while supporting sunderland.

also GROW a brain is self explanatory cos u dont have one. unfortunately u would not even understand that, would u? its alright, keep embarassing urself.

Yes, i support sunderland, lol....I like how I support City/Arsenal and now Sunderland.....

Ki is one of the leaders for our national team. Why wouldnt I support Ki? Maybe if you had a NT to support you would understand...

You guys said all this nonsense about Ki not being Chelsea material, yet what really is Chelsea material? Having 20 star players? I guess that what Chelsea quality is...

United fans said the same thing about Park Ji sung as well and guess how many titles were won during his time there playing a significant role for United...

For people that dont even watch Ki play, making comments that he isnt good enough, ok!

Ill try to grow a brain!

[didierforever 7,349]

  On 04/01/2014 at 06:35, Korea said:

Yes, i support sunderland, lol....I like how I support City/Arsenal and now Sunderland.....

Ki is one of the leaders for our national team. Why wouldnt I support Ki? Maybe if you had a NT to support you would understand...

You guys said all this nonsense about Ki not being Chelsea material, yet what really is Chelsea material? Having 20 star players? I guess that what Chelsea quality is...

United fans said the same thing about Park Ji sung as well and guess how many titles were won during his time there playing a significant role for United...

For people that dont even watch Ki play, making comments that he isnt good enough, ok!

Ill try to grow a brain!

so now we should buy KI (LOL). my nation has a national team but that does not mean that I should say that chelsea should buy sunil chetrri. Sunil chettri and KI playing for chelsea (LOL). I have watched Ki play plenty of times to know that he is no where near our quality. And by that I mean he is not good enough to be even a squad player at chelsea. We have players like romeu on loan who are MILES better than KI. As for park ji sun, he played under SAF. Last season he was the same player who got RELEGATED. Or do u think that's his quality. SAF is the best manager of our time and knew exactly how best to use each of his players. Park ji sun was notjin special and to credit him for uniteds success (LOL-MAX).

Anyways continue trolling. The fact that you have yet to answer the one and only question I have asked u about 10 times now just shows exavtly what u r .

[Spike 12,049]

  On 04/01/2014 at 06:19, didierforever said:

my love for chelsea will triumph both of those things. but your love for KI seems to be going strong. so keep on trolling this forum while supporting sunderland.

also GROW a brain is self explanatory cos u dont have one. unfortunately u would not even understand that, would u? its alright, keep embarassing urself.

I don't think Korea is trolling nor does he need to grow a brain. He is allowed to be fond of Ki, that doesn't make him less of a Chelsea fan for it.

Anyway here is a list of players that have been relegated:

Matt le Tissier

Lukas Podolski

Julio Cesar

Joe Cole

Roy Keane

Damien Duff

Glen Johnson

Shaun-Wright Phillips

Michael Carrick

Adam Johnson

See the players I've typed in bold characters? They went on to win the Premier League at a different club after being relegated.

[didierforever 7,349]

  On 04/01/2014 at 08:22, Spike Spiegel said:

I don't think Korea is trolling nor does he need to grow a brain. He is allowed to be fond of Ki, that doesn't make him less of a Chelsea fan for it.

Anyway here is a list of players that have been relegated:

Matt le Tissier

Lukas Podolski

Julio Cesar

Joe Cole

Roy Keane

Damien Duff

Glen Johnson

Shaun-Wright Phillips

Michael Carrick

Adam Johnson

See the players I've typed in bold characters? They went on to win the Premier League at a different club after being relegated.

have u read the whole conversation since yesterday? do u know the context we are talking about? selling mata to buy KI or playing torres/etoo/ba on the wings. dont just take one quote and give it your own spin.

as for the relegation argument. i gave it since he so adamantly said

United fans said the same thing about Park Ji sung as well and guess how many titles were won during his time there playing a significant role for United...

park winning the PL was his argument, him getting relegated was mine. how do those other players make a difference?

[Spike 12,049]

  On 04/01/2014 at 08:36, didierforever said:

have u read the whole conversation since yesterday? do u know the context we are talking about? selling mata to buy KI or playing torres/etoo/ba on the wings. dont just take one quote and give it your own spin.

1. He didn't say sell Mata to buy Ki. They were unrelated to eachother.

2. He mentioned that Mata should be sold due to underperfomring and incorrectly utilised.

3. He did not mention that Mata is not a good player.

4. He mentions buying Ki, because he is fond of Ki. Not that Ki should replace Mata. Again the points are unrelated.

5. He mentions that Mata's assets are being wasted on the wings, i.e. he lacks pace, strength and directness of a great winger. He should be played in the middle because that is where his strengths lie.

6. He states that Torres and Eto'o (read: not Ba) have a better style suited towards direct wing play.

7. He never states that selling Mata strengthens the team. He states that the possibility of the funds rasied to buy new players strengthens the team. Selling players does not strengthen the team but buying does. Sometimes one has to be done before the other.

All in all, to sum up Korea: if Mata can not be utilised properly he should be sold; otherwise if he is utilised correctly he should be played. I believe along every step of the way you've misinterpreted my Korea's posts.