🇧🇪 Romelu Lukaku

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

“He put himself under a certain pressure because coming back to the club where you start was difficult, and you come back because you want to prove a point,”  “But he’s winning and I think he’s going to make it.”

“I hope he learned from me,” “He’s a goalscorer. He’s having a difficult moment, but bouncing back and when we have the time to speak I give him some advice, but after that it’s his career, it’s his responsibilities now. It’s him now. He’s in charge of the attacking players, so he has to find the ideas and make it his own story.”

The Drogs

too much has been made out of their comparison. As player types they are different as night and day. Drogs was a very technical striker who could score from any distance, with either foot and was paritcularly dominant in the air and on big occasions. Rom is the complete opposite, has terrible technique and ball control, only shows up vs relegation fodder, hardly scores from outside the box and is average in the air.

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

too much has been made out of their comparison. As player types they are different as night and day. Drogs was a very technical striker who could score from any distance, with either foot and was paritcularly dominant in the air and on big occasions. Rom is the complete opposite, has terrible technique and ball control, only shows up vs relegation fodder, hardly scores from outside the box and is average in the air.

Yeah think Drogba is just trying to give him some confidence, with the caveat that ''he's in charge, has to make his own ideas''

To be honest I'd have preferred the 43 year old Drogba there today

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

5 hours ago, whats happening said:

But is that Lukaku fault?

[Tomo 21,751]

11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

But is that Lukaku fault?

You're not serious?

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

So Ian Wright, Shearer, and Lineker all said the same thing - its a training fault. They showed numerous videos of when Lukaku is not getting first time balls in, and the opportunity is lost. 

I reckon this will be rectified in training now.

[Pizy 18,909]

I was so hopeful when he looked like a super fit beast against the likes of Arsenal and Villa early in the season. He genuinely looked like a changed player from his previous PL stints. Highly mobile, the ball would stick when it went up to him, he was tossing CB’s around for fun (remember him humiliating Pablo Mari?) and he was scoring brilliant goals. He looked like an absolute menace like Drogba Version 2.0. 

These days he looks like the Man United at the very end version of Lukaku. Overweight, barely moves, terrible body language, isn’t aggressive or dangerous at all. Opposing teams look happy to play against him.

Wtf happened to the early season Lukaku?

[Tomo 21,751]

22 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

So Ian Wright, Shearer, and Lineker all said the same thing - its a training fault. They showed numerous videos of when Lukaku is not getting first time balls in, and the opportunity is lost. 

I reckon this will be rectified in training now.

If Lukaku needs specific conditions to achieve even basic competence then he's a fundamentally shit footballer. Harry Kane fed on scraps today yet still managed to cause City absolute nightmares.

If we go back and watched Diego Costa's games for us they'll be many times he wasn't played in when we could have been, even by Cesc, but he still kept going and often got his reward.

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

I was so hopeful when he looked like a super fit beast against the likes of Arsenal and Villa early in the season. He genuinely looked like a changed player from his previous PL stints. Highly mobile, the ball would stick when it went up to him, he was tossing CB’s around for fun (remember him humiliating Pablo Mari?) and he was scoring brilliant goals. He looked like an absolute menace like Drogba Version 2.0. 

These days he looks like the Man United at the very end version of Lukaku. Overweight, barely moves, terrible body language, isn’t aggressive or dangerous at all. Opposing teams look happy to play against him.

Wtf happened to the early season Lukaku?

Unfortunately we don't play defenders as shit as Pablo Mari every week.

The signs were there even against Villa, we created little and were kept in the game by Mendy (in no small part thanks to Villa utilising the holes created by Lukaku not pressing), that game Lukaku actually took his chances, but it was never sustainable as it has since proved.

Edited February 20, 2022 by Tomo

[Blue Armour 4,439]

33 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Unfortunately we don't play defenders as shit as Pablo Mari every week.

The signs were there even against Villa, we created little and were kept in the game by Mendy (in no small part thanks to Villa utilising the holes created by Lukaku not pressing), that game Lukaku actually took his chances, but it was never sustainable as it gas since proved.

True, but Pizy does have a point about his fitness.

After his one month on sidelines he has come back as a far less agile player. Haven't really seen him bully defenders like he did against Arsenal, or Tyrone Mings. All that talk about making amends and he doesn't seem to be maintaining whatever standard he had.

Edited February 20, 2022 by Blue Armour

[lucio 5,418]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

So Ian Wright, Shearer, and Lineker all said the same thing - its a training fault. They showed numerous videos of when Lukaku is not getting first time balls in, and the opportunity is lost. 

I reckon this will be rectified in training now.

If he didn’t have a touch like a brick wall people would give him first time balls more 

[Pizy 18,909]

42 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

True, but Pizy does have a point about his fitness.

After his one month on sidelines he has come back as a far less agile player. Haven't really seen him bully defenders like he did against Arsenal, or Tyrone Mings. All that talk about making amends and he doesn't seem to be maintaining whatever standard he had.

You can really see it especially in his face. He had the chiseled jaw line and thin looking face. His torso was also lean looking.

Now he looks like he packed on quite a few pounds. 

[Vytis33 1,270]

I mentioned it before but there's no way TT is looking at these games and seeing a nailed on starter here right?   I mean he strikes me as a pretty intelligent guy.  Surely something more is at play.

[cosmicway 1,333]

We absolved Lukaku for that interview but there is an explanation now.
He knew he could n't handle the premier, he is preparing excuses over the "environment at Chelsea" and so forth so he can go back to Italy where he thinks it will be easy for him.
Sub now.

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

6 hours ago, Tomo said:

If Lukaku needs specific conditions to achieve even basic competence then he's a fundamentally shit footballer.

Shearer, Wrighty and Lineker the ultimate scorers seemed quite emphatic in their assessment, and  to know what they were talking about in terms of his poor service. They were also quite critical of his movement, and that both these facets had not been addressed in training.

For the club to have spunked out 97m they must have studied, watched, read numerous scouts reports just to acquire a 'shit footballer' This means there are several highly paid club officials that are stealing a living. Doesn't bode well.

 

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

True, but Pizy does have a point about his fitness.

After his one month on sidelines he has come back as a far less agile player. Haven't really seen him bully defenders like he did against Arsenal, or Tyrone Mings. All that talk about making amends and he doesn't seem to be maintaining whatever standard he had.

 

6 hours ago, Pizy said:

You can really see it especially in his face. He had the chiseled jaw line and thin looking face. His torso was also lean looking.

Now he looks like he packed on quite a few pounds. 

Gary Neville made the same remark late last year/earlier this year. So much for his all talk about being on strict diet, having a nutritionist etc at Inter. Seems like Conte was the one who kept a leash on him (and others perhaps). 

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Tomo said:

If Lukaku needs specific conditions to achieve even basic competence then he's a fundamentally shit footballer.

Do you not understand the memo, Tomo? Everything has to be done perfectly for a top 3 striker in the world to thrive. EVERYTHING. Anything else is others' fault. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Shearer, Wrighty and Lineker the ultimate scorers seemed quite emphatic in their assessment, and  to know what they were talking about in terms of his poor service.

We have not been great at servicing our strikers or attackers for years but to have only 7 touches in the game and all the ineffective games that he's had is not good to say the least, especially when he cost us 100 million. I'm sure Tuchel hasn't told him not to move and just stay up there. If he's not getting involved in games, does he not have the brain to maybe at least come deep, get the ball, link up with others a bit and then go the other way or run the channels etc? You know, to try and get involved more? Last season, we spent ages moaning about Werner and whoever else for not taking the chances but now, the complaint is that the striker is not getting the service, which again something we have not been good at doing for years. Why? Our attacking system under Tuchel hasn't been great but at the same time, there's also the problem with this 100 million player and one that Tuchel seems hellbent on playing week in week out to the detriment of the team. It was mostly forced by the injuries but Tuchel has even used many different systems to help Lukaku but the end result has all been the same so far. 

[Jase 43,479]

5 hours ago, Vytis33 said:

I mentioned it before but there's no way TT is looking at these games and seeing a nailed on starter here right?   I mean he strikes me as a pretty intelligent guy.  Surely something more is at play.

Managers always having a blind spot or two. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

3 hours ago, Jase said:

We have not been great at servicing our strikers or attackers for years but to have only 7 touches in the game and all the ineffective games that he's had is not good to say the least, especially when he cost us 100 million. I'm sure Tuchel hasn't told him not to move and just stay up there. If he's not getting involved in games, does he not have the brain to maybe at least come deep, get the ball, link up with others a bit and then go the other way or run the channels etc? You know, to try and get involved more? Last season, we spent ages moaning about Werner and whoever else for not taking the chances but now, the complaint is that the striker is not getting the service, which again something we have not been good at doing for years. Why? Our attacking system under Tuchel hasn't been great but at the same time, there's also the problem with this 100 million player and one that Tuchel seems hellbent on playing week in week out to the detriment of the team. It was mostly forced by the injuries but Tuchel has even used many different systems to help Lukaku but the end result has all been the same so far. 

Shearer, Wrighty and Lineker the ultimate scorers seemed quite emphatic in their assessment, and  to know what they were talking about in terms of his poor service. They were also quite critical of his movement, and that both these facets had not been addressed in training.

They were adamant his lack of movement and lack of first time balls in were not being sorted in training. These two facets need to be immediately addressed if anything near his fee is to be attained.

[Pizy 18,909]

If by some miracle we’re able to move on from him this summer we need to take a page out of Liverpool’s book in the search for a new striker. We need to stop shopping at the very highest price bracket and get creative. Scout around at medium sized or smaller clubs and find try to find the über talent that we can develop into a star. Mané, Salah, Jota, Diaz. All sub-£50m and developed into £100m caliber players eventually.

There’s gotta be more of these sorts of players in Spain or Portugal or Germany. Dudes that are at midtable clubs but are ready for a step up.

Either that or just get rid of Pulisic and Werner and sign some super creative AM’s and go the City striker-less route. We already have a system where we dominate 70% of the ball. So get tricky player who can actually do something with it.