Dahnald 256 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 No need to boo him when he visits us at the Bridge. Never made a real impact for us. Booing him will only make us look pathetic. Blue Armour and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,509 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, mccg said: The United Stand @UnitedStandMUFC Follow More Chelsea spending 100 million on Lukaku.... They'll have to spend another 100 on safety glasses to protect their fans from his first touch Replying to @UnitedStandMUFC Explains why Chelsea are expanding their stadium. Need a bigger pitch for Lukaku to chase his first touch Lol United fans before they signed him thinking he was going to Cfc deluded hypocrites that lot, cant wait for us to give those karnts a good spanking again TheIceMan and mccg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,509 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 just saw his interview for ESPN, he said he hasnt won any major honours yet and wants to do it with United, rightttt..... so the Champions League and FA Cup double in 2012 are what? Beigl and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Tomo said: Not just Torres. Sutton, Ben Haim, ironically the latter was signed on the back of performance's for a 6th/7th level team. Lukaku may be proven as a good PL scorer but in terms of doing it in a high pressed environment he has it all to prove, he looked terrified playing for us. Ben Haim 😂 Thanks for reminding me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 How this went down is possibly the best thing that could have happened for us. I personally did not want lukaku, so I'm happy we didn't get him. But I think it's clear we were very interested (possibly our number one striker target). I think we dodged an expensive bullet, and we'll now get a better overall player in belotti or morata. Big plus to me. Also if he was the clubs and Conte's top choice, we will not want to get "embarassed" again when trying to buy a player (although this one to me isn't embarrassing). It might push us to be a bit quicker in negotiations. I don't buy in to the whole "our board" is a complete farce. I'm very relaxed about our situation, and think we will end up with some quality players. But if not signing him spurs us on to sign people quicker, I'm all for it. The worst part is if we are longer interested in negotiating matic to Man U. That would be a bummer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Tomo, DYC., Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 After that interview I'm not sure how much you can blame the board for this. Lukaku has said from the beginning that he knew where he was going to sign all along and I don't see any reason not to believe him about that. I'm not sure what was to be gained by acting like it was Chelsea other then extra attention and drama, or perhaps an attempt to run up the price a bit on United so they would pay what Everton would accept. It sounds like Pogba has been working on him for awhile. It seems like it wouldn't have mattered what we had bid or when, he was going to sign there. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 MU fans talking like they are signing Mbappe or something. Can't wait to see him letting them down miserably. Johnnyeye and Beigl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Irish paper (no thick jokes please) big article and picture about Lukaku pity the picture is actually Stormzy ha ha mccg and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,509 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 11 hours ago, Miguelito said: The worst part is if we are longer interested in negotiating matic to Man U. That would be a bummer. good, i dont want us to sell any more players to those karnts and to all our rivals for that matter. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 16 hours ago, mccg said: The United Stand @UnitedStandMUFC Follow More Chelsea spending 100 million on Lukaku.... They'll have to spend another 100 on safety glasses to protect their fans from his first touch Replying to @UnitedStandMUFC Explains why Chelsea are expanding their stadium. Need a bigger pitch for Lukaku to chase his first touch Lol United fans before they signed him thinking he was going to Cfc Well we all do that. The way Man Utd fans now say Lukaku is better than Morata, Chelsea fans are saying Morata is better than Lukaku. No big deal. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 11 hours ago, kc_blue said: After that interview I'm not sure how much you can blame the board for this. Lukaku has said from the beginning that he knew where he was going to sign all along and I don't see any reason not to believe him about that. I'm not sure what was to be gained by acting like it was Chelsea other then extra attention and drama, or perhaps an attempt to run up the price a bit on United so they would pay what Everton would accept. It sounds like Pogba has been working on him for awhile. It seems like it wouldn't have mattered what we had bid or when, he was going to sign there. Seriously!!! How is the board not to be blamed in this situation. They let go of Lukaku and De Bruyne who clear had potential without any clause in the deal ... How could we be so dumb. Clearly for this they need to be sacked. I m not a big Lukaku fan but we could have easily made something out of these deals which could have only helped us. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 The board deserve both plaudits but also deserve criticism IMO. They have made some great buys but they also have made some horrendous decisions. The whole Lukaku says it all, to match a bid from a rival says we were in panic mode, we are now still panicking because we haven't tied down a striker. We are scrambling around like a kid who's dropped his £3 pocket money all over the floor. We need to sort our shit out and quick. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 To clarify what I meant. In an earlier post I stated that it was my recollection that the whole point in buying Lukaku back when he was 18 was to get him young and at an early age when he wouldn't cost a fortune and avoid that kind of situation. I also said that letting him go without a buyback clause was stupidity of the highest order. I'm merely saying in light of that interview that you can't blame the board for not resigning him this summer as I honestly don't think he ever had any idea of signing with us, Pogba was in his head and just used us as a smoke screen. That might not be true and we may never know but it fits what he's said, back at the beginning of the summer and in that interview. In that case I don't think it would matter what we offered or when, he wasn't interested in joining us. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I wasn't mentioning anything about other actions they've taken, selling De Bruyne, etc. In my earlier post I also mentioned they need to have a clear philosophy and stick with it, not change it every couple seasons which I believe goes back to this point and where they have obviously failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted July 10, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted July 10, 2017 I understand he has the first touch of a donkey but I really couldn't care less if he is banging in 30 goals a season for us. As much as I dislike Lukaku for who he is... he is proven in the PL and Morata isn't even proven in La Liga where you can score goals for fun. All this being said in vain now of course but to say Morata would have been a better fit than Lukaku doesn't make sense to me. Lukaku is the closest thing to a DDA Drogba or Costa that there is.He will not bang those many goals... Lukaku has trouble scoring against tight defenses which is the case he'd face the most if he played for us and might be the case in United. Look at his career, not only stats to see that. He struggles unless the other team's defense isn't that good or isn't parking the bus. Will Jose park the bus? I have no idea because I didn't watch United much (couldn't stomach). I remember they were a mess, and then extremely ineffective even during the unbeaten streak. Won many times with lucky or offside goals and had a miryad of draws. If he parks the bus and play counter attack, okay, he's got more room and it suits him better, but will Jose park the bus against teams parking the bus? I'm not attracted to watch this kind of football. Other example, Lukaku has a terrible record in important matches and zero UCL experience (doubt in knockout stage he'll do anything relevant). What I'm saying is he will continue to score goals but not as much as before. He will struggle against better defenses and he will face better playing in a team as United. Also he isn't a big game player, never has been, it doesn't mean he cannot become one, maybe he will, but that's not my bet. Also that's my opinion on Lukaku for years, my posts in this thread are a testament to that. He's yet to prove me wrong. I gave the same assessment prior to the world Cup, the transfer to Everton, the Euros... I'm waiting for the day he proves me wrong, it obviously can happen, it's just in four years it hasn't. Johnnyeye, Beigl, kellzfresh and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,314 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 He aint no Drogs, that's for sure. Probably swerved a bullet Peace. and TheIceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Didn't really want him here, because I don't like him as a charachter but he's definitely strengthening United, he'll bang them in like he always does. Downplaying his goal record is clutching at straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Weckerz said: Didn't really want him here, because I don't like him as a charachter but he's definitely strengthening United, he'll bang them in like he always does. Downplaying his goal record is clutching at straws. I dont think he is an upgrade on Ibrahimovic and for me Marcus Rashford has probably got a more rounded game. Lukaku has a good goal record but when teams decide to park the bus against United do you think hes going to find it as easy as he did running into 10-20m of space at Everton where they were played counter attack football a lot. Also his mind set is quite weird, he is very confident in himself but has he actually won anything where he contributed in a big way? Is he a champion like Ibra is? I think Ibra will be a huge miss for United next year, purely for his experience and mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 35 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I dont think he is an upgrade on Ibrahimovic and for me Marcus Rashford has probably got a more rounded game. Lukaku has a good goal record but when teams decide to park the bus against United do you think hes going to find it as easy as he did running into 10-20m of space at Everton where they were played counter attack football a lot. Also his mind set is quite weird, he is very confident in himself but has he actually won anything where he contributed in a big way? Is he a champion like Ibra is? I think Ibra will be a huge miss for United next year, purely for his experience and mentality. It will be interesting to see how he gets on mentally, especially if he has an awkward start. I can't help but think about his time here, he looked scared stiff and everything he did felt forced. He may not have played week in week out but he started all the league cup games and was often brought on as a sub when we needed something and he was dreadful. He may have been young but Traore and Romeu played at a similar age for us and were 100 times more at ease. I have always felt he has a Torres esque mental fragility that could be triggered at any moment and if he has a average start at United things could explode very quickly. OneMoSalah and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 40 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I dont think he is an upgrade on Ibrahimovic and for me Marcus Rashfd has probably got a more rounded game. Lukaku has a good goal record but when teams decide to park the bus against United do you think hes going to find it as easy as he did running into 10-20m of space at Everton where they were played counter attack football a lot. Also his mind set is quite weird, he is very confident in himself but has he actually won anything where he contributed in a big way? Is he a champion like Ibra is? I think Ibra will be a huge miss for United next year, purely for his experience and mentality. He'll probably hinder Rashfords development which is a shame. Lukaku's confident because he's consistently near the top of the scoring charts which is (or should be) the primary rating factor for a striker. His allround play has actually improved substantially under Koeman, but everyone focusses on those "Lukaku hilarious first touch" videos on youtube instead of watching the player play. His frame makes him look lazy and a bit awkward sometimes, yet he's way more technical than he looks. Honostly you might be right and he may struggle with tighter defences, but he's never failed to deliver up until now (except a mediocre record for the international team which I blame on lackluster coaching/low quality staff and total lack of team cohesion). I wouldn't count on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Well he has gone for better or worse whatever..Guess wait and see. The panic bid seems a bit daft though and that it did sod all anyway..and in fairness he did say the Chelsea rumours were just rumours didn't he? Prob score against us to be annoying thoughI Need to focus elsewhere and not mess up any other likely looking transfers. We do tend to end up in some made saga every year and always ends the same way so least this didn't go on for ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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