Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 No, it was well documented that the results weren't up to standards. For me however, many of the senior players spent too much time criticising tactics and moaning about not playing and not enough time shutting the fuck up and doing the talking on the pitch. The players we have are all capped internationals, trophy winners, they don't forget how to win a match vs WBA because the manager told them to change their role slightly.Obviously, Andre inherited a squad well past it's prime where the rebuilding has been a long time coming. The fact that we now have to start again is quite simply, ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 No doubt you guys are going to continue blame Lampard for his sacking.Lampard is being criticised for his 'attitude' & 'comments' (direct quotes, no conspiracy).This was never about whether he 'directly' influenced the decision or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Its funny how some people really thinks AVB is a great manager. He wont join any big european club any time soon after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Its funny how some people really thinks AVB is a great manager. He wont join any big european club any time soon after this season.I'm pretty sure he will turn out successful even after that, this job came too soon for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Henrique what is your profession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Sacking Carlo, appointing and sacking AVB and signing Torres cost a combined £86m We could have let Carlo see out his contract, then brung AVB in and used that £86m to rebuild the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Its funny how some people really thinks AVB is a great manager. He wont join any big european club any time soon after this season.Its funny how you dont see any cause and effect between our incredibly shitty and aging squad and the recent performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Sacking Carlo, appointing and sacking AVB and signing Torres cost a combined £86m We could have let Carlo see out his contract, then brung AVB in and used that £86m to rebuild the side.The thing is that Roman don't care cause he got the money. But the bad thing is that we are worse, because that money is reflected in our balance sheet, and thus stop us from spending more due to the FFP rules.Roman could throw another 300 mill for all he cares, but the club can't handle that, because we don't make enough revenue to balance it out. Its funny how some people really thinks AVB is a great manager. He wont join any big european club any time soon after this season.Don't think he is right now, but has potential.And buying potential is great, but not for the job Roman put AVB to do. That was lunatic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Time to move on. Still furious.Done with reading rumours/speculations/Mirror 'exclusives' about the build up & eventual departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,005 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 What's done is done. I'm fuming over the way AVB had been treated by the players and now left out in the cold by Roman and his sharks but we got to move on now. We must concentrate on getting 4th spot as in my humble opinion that is absolutely vital to us in terms of player pulling power for next season! There are other routes for us to go down if we don't get the 4th spot like bringing in a few unknown youngsters and giving our current young lads a chance but this is Chelsea and we all know that just isn't what we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misschief 24 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!Jim sent me into a cupboard a couple of years ago - he only let me back out last night. Miss me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,546 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Sacking Carlo, appointing and sacking AVB and signing Torres cost a combined £86m We could have let Carlo see out his contract, then brung AVB in and used that £86m to rebuild the side.Exactly!!! Daft reallyAnd no surprising how managers have said they wouldnt take the job..Brendan Rogers 'I wana forward my career not damage it...' sums up how we're looked at really at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Exactly!!! Daft reallyAnd no surprising how managers have said they wouldnt take the job..Brendan Rogers 'I wana forward my career not damage it...' sums up how we're looked at really at the momentThat's why all the world laughs at us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ziggles 110 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 You know you need changes when freakin Brendan Rodgers wants to stay at his (brilliant) Swansea team and considers it a step backward if he comes to us.Hopefully we'll sign Robben/Jarvis/Albrighton, new LB cover and bring in some youth next summer AT LEAST and finally go forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
begf 12 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 As a Porto fan, my opinion is that you lost (or wasted) a great manager. He needed to build a team as he wish, but that is not possible in 8 mounths. He won in Porto because that was an associatian of a great organization with a great manager. The work was all done, the team was barely the same (he just hired a left defender to be substitute of Alvaro), a centre-back to compensate the exit of Bruno Alves to Zenit, and a miedfielder (João Moutinho) to substitute Meireles.Plus, he worked James Rodriguez to a point that you can see this season (and you will hear a lot of him in the future). The rest was there, great young players with the will to win everything, you the spirit to beat every teams!AVB brought to Porto the young blood of irreverence. If you look at Porto's squad, the old players are a few, and without vicious of being absolutely incontestable. They know that they need to word hard if they want to play.And that was the problem in Chelsea, when some of the players stayed in the bench, it provoked the first negative reactions. In Porto, if that happened, the Presidente Pinto da Costa would have talked to those players and they would have been punished, for sure! That gives the manager the confidence he needs to do his work without having to answer every week the press about issues with players A or B in the squad. What Chelsea needed was a person like Pinto da Costa to control the players. When the manager has to give the face to protect himself and the players from press questions, the problem will never be solved!I think he shouldn't have gone to Chelsea so early, because he should predict that the relationship with the players could be problematic when you bring new ideas.I give this example: 4 matches ago, Porto lost with Gil Vicente in an away game, where the referee allowed 2 irregular goal do Gil (the first from a freekick that wasn't foul, the second was offside), and didn't pointed 2 penaltys for Porto. In the end of the game, Porto was 5 points behind benfica. Pinto da Costa went to the closet in the end of the game, call down the players and demanded the players to work harder! 4 matches later, Porto is in the first place, won 8 points to benfica, and won the away game with benfica when we were tied up with them. There was no time to the press question the manager, the players, etc. The president solves thoses problems before they went wrong. In Chelsea, that hasn't happened.Chelsea should hire now a coach with strong spirit and firm in his decisions, and assure him the minimum of 3 years contract. Plus, hire a man to control the closet, to be always upon the players, so the manager can only work on the opponent and on the tactics. That manager should be AVB, but the owner doesn0t think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 AVB had it coming, everything was just wrong, He was too young and the the decision to not begin some sort of Clearout in the summer has cost him his Job, no-one too blame but himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
begf 12 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 to make that clearout you have to buy to many good players at the same time. and that's not a question of money (not a problem in Chelsea), that's a question of those players wanting to come... You cannot do that in 2 mounths. AVB knew that. And he knew e needed 1 year to build a team. but the results weren't the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 As a Porto fan, my opinion is that you lost (or wasted) a great manager.Yep, most of us know that, and we are ashamed on behalf of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Jim sent me into a cupboard a couple of years ago - he only let me back out last night. Miss me?of course, miss your posts hope you're back for the long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiedan 154 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 And Di Matteo told Sky Sports News: "It was nothing to do with bravery (leaving out his big name players). They're all on board and they know what target we have, which we must achieve."There are big players for this club and we have a squad and we have to utilise the squad because we played on Saturday, played tonight, we play again on Saturday now, so we have to get the best out of these players and the team."Now here's a manager that sounds like he knows how to communicate with players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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