OneMoSalah

Good to see you've both came back Rmpr and Stingray, fuck what other folk think, don't let them annoy yous both!

Why buy Capoue when we already have Mikel who is better? Its a similar case to Nemanja Matic being linked to us, sure Capoue is a good player (as is Matic) but Mikel is sort of struggling to get into the team so going and buying Capoue (or Matic) who plays in that same position when hes inferior to Mikel and not really needed? If it isn't broke don't fix it. I don't mean the pivot but in terms of defensive midfielders, we don't necessarily need another one so it would effectively be a luxury buy (like Willian was imo). Romeu who is a good prospect is out on loan as well, if he can get game time and develop, come back a better player, we have even more competition without spending anything. With all these loans the likes of Romeu (if he can get his old form back) and Lukaku, has a chance on competing for a squad place for sure, no doubt about it. Also as Kojo mentioned we have Lampard, Ramires, Mikel, Van Ginkel and Michael Essien, we have options just not the correct profile of players in a way I guess. Forgetting about those players and Romeu, we also have young players like Nathan Ake, Josh McEachran and Nathaniel Chalobah who you could include for the pivot but will they feature at all? That remains a mystery. Still my point is, in my opinion, Capoue and Matic are players we don't need due to the fact they aren't better than what we already have. I think Jose, Emenalo and the board need to prioritise strengthening these positions in the next few years: Center back: JT has been great so far this year but you cannot always bet on his fitness and hes not at an age where any more injuries/previous are going to take their toll more than ever. Also considering Ivanovic looks more than likely to be featuring at RB for Jose now a days then when JT hangs up his boots/declines/whatever then we will be relying on David Luiz, Gary Cahill and Tomas Kalas (who still looks slightly inexperienced but that will come). Left back: Cole is coming to the end sadly and Bertrand is solid but nothing spectacular in my eyes. We will need to look to promote or buy sooner than later. Luke Shaw would be a good fit due to the fact hes English, only 18 right now and a Chelsea fan. Ultimately I know that means nothing but hes certainly one for the long term, if we were to go for him. Central midfield: Lampard is close to retiring and Michael Essien has been finished for a while so a new central midfielder is going to be needed soon. Gundogan/Modric would be perfect but unlikely, someone along that line of profile though, even Josh could be that player for us but he needs to make it happen through hard work and prove he's worthy of a place. We don't need any more holding or sitting players, we already have Mikel, Romeu, Ake, Chalobah who can all play that role. We don't really need a box to box player either as right now we have Lampard, Ramires and Marco. Striker: Torres is done, Eto'o is 30 odd, Ba is coming towards his 30s so we will need another striker soon to compete with Romelu Lukaku when he returns next summer (I'm certain Lukaku will make it, hes too good a talent not to make it here now). I'd like to see if Islam Feruz will play much over the next few seasons as he's really talented and it would be a shame to see him not make it a top club as the Scottish national team could do with some more top quality players playing at top clubs. Also Chelsea need at least 2 strikers who are at a high level; like we had with Drogba-Anelka, who can score at least 20 goals each.

Hes played 90 minutes.... when he gets his next game he might actually score... he can't score when there are no games... jesus some people

I think it's inevitable that we will see Oscar in a deeper role sooner or later (a few years maybe, which is a shame in my opinion as it would be a waste) going by what Michael Emenalo said after a few games under Robbie last year and the fact we only really signed Marco van Ginkel who plays in a deeper role this summer (and nobody last summer). Realistically I think next summer or even in January, despite what Jose said, we might look for a new central midfield player because I think Lampard said somewhere that this is probably his last year and if it is we go back to being slightly short in midfield. It needs to be someone like Modric I feel, be it Modric himself or Ilkay Gundogan from Dortmund or someone else of that ilk. Either that or if Lampard signs on for another year at the end of the season, then we have to put trust in young Marco van Ginkel, who looks a good prospect; he can can distribute the ball well and also get stuck in and break play up. Also next summer what do we do with Oriol Romeu? He isn't a playmaker but hes another midfield player, albeit I don't know if he will get a chance under Jose. I feel he's somebody Mourinho would like as he's strong and comfortable on the ball although still needs games to develop. Then we have Michael Essien too? Does he go? Does he get more minutes? Who knows.

Fuck me that Leno cunt couldn't catch a fucking cold

Lol I dont really mind Ryan or Ry whatever... In a way Moses is something we are going to lack this season; Oscar, De Bruyne, Schurrle, Willian, Mata and Hazard all love coming inside and playing like most wingers/attacking midfielders these days, Moses can do both, he can operate on the right and stretch teams like he did for Wigan, operate more centrally like he did at Palace and also play on the left seen at Wigan, Chelsea and Liverpool. He is probably better on the right, as I said in my previous post, hes strong, pacey and direct. When we play whoever against smaller teams, perhaps even bigger teams, they will look to congest central areas where all our 3 behind the striker players love getting involved, so something is going to have to give, either Schurrle operates on the right every game and looks to do something he didn't do much of at Leverkusen (stay very wide and stretch teams) or Kevin plays on the right and does the same, staying very wide giving him a chance to utilize his crossing ability. If not we are going to suffer against teams due to a lack of width and being too narrow at times, Moses would have been ideal for this I feel. Sure he'd not be getting much minutes but I liked his pre-season performances and I felt he gave us something the others didn't in particular that game against Inter, he was superb, both offensively and defensively. Sure Andre will give us the same defensively but I think his game (coming off the touchline and coming inside to shoot) is much better on the left flank. Also on Eden being an untouchable, I disagree, especially as I thought Mata would have been basically untouchable this season after what hes done for the last 2 years. We have that much quality in the squad, nobody in the band of 3 is untouchable perhaps except from Oscar as he is very productive defensively which Mourinho obviously likes in comparison to the rest of the #10s.

I'm sorry this is by far the most laughable post I have ever seen on this forum. The arselicking Lampard gets despite playing very bad is ridiculous and the amount of abuse Mikel gets despite being our best player against Everton is laughable. Since AVB came in Lampard has been a passenger in at least half of the games upto now. He was particularly good in the CL final along with Mikel, he scored some vital goals but he didn't play well a lot of the time. Sure Mikel-Lampard isn't a decent partnership because whenever we lose the ball Lampard is halfway up the park, leaving Mikel exposed as we seen under Robbie in several games. The pivot was the weakest part of our team when he played at times, not always because of Lampard no that would be slightly unfair to say but teams were passing by Mikel because he was exposed a lot. The stats do not lie? We won the biggest club trophy in football playing Mikel-Lampard together.... stick your stats right up your arse. I couldn't give a fuck how many games we've lost with Mikel in the team, we've won a few PLs, however many FA cups, the Champions League and Europa League with him in our team since he came here.... he probably has over 200 Chelsea appearances, how many have we won with and without him in the team out of all of them? Probably won at least 70% so ram your stats where the sun doesn't shine.

For fuck sake not this shit....

Should be 'TalkChelsea fans' logic Chelsea win, draw or lose... still blame Mikel ................for nothing' not quite as catchy as your one but yeah...

I think its unfair to say Moses played a good game one week then a few games where he was very poor, before he went to the AFCON he was one of our best players at times. Not bad for a squad player eh? He may have only scored the one PL goal but his goals against Shakhtar at the time was a winning goal and his goals in the Europa League were vital to us winning games at times. I also want to dispute that Moses doesn't fit in Mourinho's system, Moses is a direct, pacey, strong, physical player, these attributes you could link to a Mourinho team (he had similar attributes in certain players at his other clubs; Ronaldo at Real, Eto'o at Inter, Drogba at Chelsea) Moses was loaned out after Abramovich went and wasted 30m on Willian who may be a good player, but nothing we don't already have in Mata, Hazard and Oscar. I really feel for Moses, Di Matteo was desperate to sign him and after an excellent pre-season under Jose hes been shipped out on loan when you could say that he outperformed the likes of Schurrle and Hazard. Sure pre-season means nothing but Jose even went on record and praised Moses during the tour and said he'd get games. Its a strange one still I'm hoping Moses can get a chance at some point, think he deserved slightly better after his pre-season performances. I'm certain Schurrle, Kevin, Hazard etc are all better than Moses, 110% certain but he was certainly a decent player who would have gotten minutes if we hadn't needlessly signed Willian.

I think it will be fair to say we can compare how the others do in comparison to Moses last year at the end of the season, he got 11 or 12 goals in all competitions without starting many games which is pretty impressive, having players who can play every now and then that can get that sort of numbers is pretty good. Even if we compare his stats from his Liverpool loan to the others, still a bit annoyed he went to Pool but Rodgers could make him better, even though I reckon Jose could have as well.

I got Oscar on the home top, think I'm gonna get Hazard and Mata on the away and third so I have the three amigos... or just Hazard on one as I have a Mata top from last season (away kit I think, black with yellow bits on it)

why did you think I told you to add me cunt

Think thats a bit unfair to say people are overhyping his performance. The first 3 Everton games of the season he has been the standout player for them (along with Barry yesterday). He will only get better under Martinez I feel.

What so do Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Torres, Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry and Cole not have to defend well or what? Is it just Mikel vs Everton, or Mikel vs Manchester United? Don't fucking think so.

He'd still be a key player, he allows Barca to put their full backs right up the park by playing as a third CB more or less and gives the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Messi etc a platform to go and play. His role in that team is undisputed, after Messi hes the first name on the team sheet. His passing is exceptional, he can pass through the lines, taking 3, 4 or even 5 players out of the game at once.

I don't think Vidal is a DM tbh, still think that Busquets is the best one out there. Martinez and De Rossi are really good though!

Your not honestly going to say those games were Mikels fault are you pahahaha? What a pathetic argument.

Oh aye forgot he got a red card in the Super Cup, possibly could give Marco a start but I'm not sure if Mourinho will. He will probably go for Lamps, which is a shame because I'd like to see Marco given a chance, as he and Mikel would give us a lot more balance in MF.

His chip was so unlucky, think his technique is very underrated.

Hope to maybe see Marco get some minutes off the bench. Lampard mustn't start imo, Basel like to press the ball so we need some composure in MF preferably with Mikel and Rami. Eto'o maybe still a bit rusty, don't mind if he starts though now hes had 90 minutes under his belt so hopefully he'll improve. Mata must be given more minutes, they play a highish line so Mata is good for this game as he can find the wingers and striker going beyond them.

Totally agree, Mourinho's Madrid team particularly struggled against smaller teams in La Liga when Real had the ball and had to break them down. Ozil in particular wasn't in great form and bar him they really lacked someone with vision to find that pass to unlock a defence (Modric was struggling and still adapting to La Liga). Mourinho constantly did counter attacking drills in training (at Madrid) down both flanks, from what I've read, as it is his game plan as well all know. Is it the same at Chelsea? Going on the evidence of the games against Bayern, United, Villa and Everton we are probably going to be much more counter attacking, which I don't mind again but still when we get the ball in central areas when we play teams who will sit off us, what do we do with it? Do we continue to struggle to come up with ideas there or what? We still need a playmaker of sorts, I don't think we'll look for another CM until Lamps retires to be honest. I'd like to see us try and build from the back some more but I don't know, I thought Jose said he was here to play the football 'the fans wanted', sure I don't mind counter attacking football but at times we lack ideas when we have the ball in central areas, we either let Ramires carry it forward or play it into the channels so Hazard/Schurrle can try and do something will the ball. Luiz should start every game at CB for us though, because he has the ability to step into midfield and find that pass over the top of the defenders or in between the full back and center back, at times we need that.

Who is then? Just curious mate not trying to cause an argument

I said it was his best game for Chelsea since the CL final, not that he is 'the greatest of all time' or the 'best DM in the world', the best DM in the world is clearly Sergio Busquets but lets not got there.

I'm guessing if your Spanish your not a Mourinho player lol