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Special Juan

The Conte Thread

Started by Special Juan,

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Think we will win Monday, everything will be forgotten, beat Hull... lose to Barca, Utd and City and back to Conte out.

 

touch wood we get through this.  Cheer up though Antonio, it cant help the squad seeing Conte mope around the place daily

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21 hours ago, quickpassnmove said:

Mainly it's the board.

Also, I know that Batshuayi and Bakayoko are NOT Conte signings. Even though Morata has struggled and is not coping well with Premier League referees and defenders, the lack of a 2nd striker in the squad is critical.

There was too much change that needed to happen with the Chelsea squad for many windows now. To me, Chelsea have been trying to play catch-up for years already --and no, they've not bought top players along the way (aside from Kante, Diego, Fab). No one has come in to help Hazard aside from Diego (Fabregas negligible most of the time due to position in RCM and lack of speed).

On top of that, pissing away two huge players like de Bruyne and Salah without buyback clauses hasn't helped.

https://talksport.com/football/antonio-conte-paying-michael-emenalos-mistakes-transfer-market-says-former-chelsea-star-ray#JQRisXaxId9cSVz4.99

It's both for me. The board haven't been buying the quality they should have but whether he gets the players he wants or not. Conte is the coach. It's his job to work with the players he has and find solutions.

Feels like he's letting the problems he has with the board effect his decisions. He's not putting in the energy that he used to. 

Especially this last game he seemed disinterested for the large majority of it. Just feels like his problems witht the board have effected his commitment to the clubs success.

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1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said:

It's both for me. The board haven't been buying the quality they should have but whether he gets the players he wants or not. Conte is the coach. It's his job to work with the players he has and find solutions.

Feels like he's letting the problems he has with the board effect his decisions. He's not putting in the energy that he used to. 

Especially this last game he seemed disinterested for the large majority of it. Just feels like his problems witht the board have effected his commitment to the clubs success.

I don't think Conte has adapted to the English league despite the title last season. Our last two titles were won while other big English sides were weakened, IMO. 

Hard to say what Antonio could do under different circumstances; we will probably never see "different circumstances" for him. I don't think he will return to England.

He knows the game well, but I question how well he can adapt to making the most from an inferior squad. Also, IMO, Kenedy may prove to be a player that symbolizes how either Conte or Chelsea (pressure on the manager for success?) fail to foster young talent within their 1st team ...again.

This club has been demonstrating the same problem repeatedly since Mourinho left the first time: Chelsea don't have the leadership and vision required to strike their own successful path with their own identity. Now that some other Premier League club have spent big in recent windows, it's going to take a lot of spending (spend like Madrid/ManCity/Barca) -OR- some genuine vision and leadership to make Chelsea competitive not only England again, but especially in the Champions League.

 

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Just finished listening to Monday's Football Weekly and during the discussion there, the panel came up with the point that Conte's training methods are too harsh for the players.

I understand that us, as fans, want those guys to work hard specially since they win a lot of money. But still, let's keep in mind that they are not robots. Phyisical exhaustion can lead to mental breakdowns.

This really might be a cause of what's happening this season. Last season, we didn't have to deal with such a congested schedule, therefore the results were better, the player's energy was at higher levels and we had almost no injuries to deal with!

It might be the case that Conte didn't adapt his methods to this season's reality. We can't know for sure, but it kind of looks like it.

I still think that the issue at Chelsea is the lack of good communication between the players, the board and the manager. Not everyone seems to be on the same page and all of these guys seem to have huge egos.

 

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1 hour ago, Cosmin said:

Just finished listening to Monday's Football Weekly and during the discussion there, the panel came up with the point that Conte's training methods are too harsh for the players.

I understand that us, as fans, want those guys to work hard specially since they win a lot of money. But still, let's keep in mind that they are not robots. Phyisical exhaustion can lead to mental breakdowns.

This really might be a cause of what's happening this season. Last season, we didn't have to deal with such a congested schedule, therefore the results were better, the player's energy was at higher levels and we had almost no injuries to deal with!

It might be the case that Conte didn't adapt his methods to this season's reality. We can't know for sure, but it kind of looks like it.

I still think that the issue at Chelsea is the lack of good communication between the players, the board and the manager. Not everyone seems to be on the same page and all of these guys seem to have huge egos.

 

I'll be surprised if we do much training at all. Our players has played game every 3 day for a while now

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Conte last year quoted Hannibal and said we will either find a way or we will make one. He seems to have forgotten his words as we have been doing the same things for a while now. 

One thing I dont like about him is how he reacts when things dont go well. Being honest and realistic is fine but to to turn things around when you have disadvantages you need to be a bit dreamer who does not get depressed but more motivated when he is the underdog.

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20 hours ago, Jason said:

Banged about how we're in a top 4 fight this season. Has gotten his wish now...

He really spoke it into existence.

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Unbelievable the difference between current Conte and past-season Conte. At this point I don't know whats the difference between Conte's and Mourinho's negative aspects. At least Mourinho had a past story, while Conte is around for only one season and half. 

Conte must shut up and do his job. A great coach is the one who can turn things around when the team is getting bad result. If a team collapses when the first bad results appear the manager is not doing a great job. Right now the team is playing worse from game to game. This is the moment Conte must show what he is about, specially in the game against Barcelona. I really hope at least we can give them a game and avoid an Arsenalesque demolition.

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4 hours ago, manpe said:

Well this has now come to a point where I wish he would just shut up. With things like these it's difficult not to think that he wants the sack. He's basically calling the board and the players shit while bigging up himself. Last season he was different, much humbler, now it looks like he just doesn't give a fuck anymore. I can't imagine it rubbing off any positive mood to the squad, especially what he said there about "not smiling while working hard". He's like Rihanna with all this work talk.

To be fair, this is the real Conte. Used to be combative figure when he was back in Italy. His other quotes, though, were even worse.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/10/antonio-conte-chelsea

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“You continue to work with a manager or coach not because of what he achieves in one season but because you trust in him,” he said. “Then you build something with him.

“But it doesn’t mean you have to win something, because that’s not simple. Not easy. Especially in England. The way I look at it, you can win [a trophy] but, at the same time, the club might not be happy to stay with you. In that case, [they might consider] it’s right to send the coach away. At the same time, you can trust in a coach and his work and continue with him even if you don’t win, and try and build something important.

“There are two ways. There is a stupid way and an intelligent way. This is my opinion. At the same time, I have great respect for everyone’s opinion. If the club decides to send me away, I don’t know when, it’ll be because they’re not happy with my work. As you know very well, my contract expires in 2019. From my point of view, there is the will to stay and continue to work for this club.”

Also, in that same article, I don't get how he can moan about the media creating speculations, negative vibes around the club when he's been feeding them with negative stuff to write about on a weekly basis. :doh:

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54 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Antonio Conte has admitted to being "a disaster" when it comes to persuading Chelsea to sign players.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11247062/antonio-conte-says-convincing-chelsea-on-signings-is-a-disaster72893cf44479b171c5a7980cd4b8e9ea.jpg

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He also need to learn to convince players to join us. We lost ox to pool 

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On 10/2/2018 at 3:38 PM, Jason said:

Banged about how we're in a top 4 fight this season. Has gotten his wish now...

in the middle a market session in which the Board gives away Bats and leaves the squad without a striker :doh:

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Barbara said:

The truth hurts people
Dozens of you said many times that Conte brought the best out of many average players we have, that we overachieved and outperformed and when he says that he's able to do that he's lacking *false* modesty and humbleness *rolls eyes*
Why can't someone admit what they are good at?
I'm tired of those politically correct people. They suck monkey balls, unbearable people who are annoying as hell and looks like a mark of this age, all generations included. I despise politically correct attitude

It's because saying this publicly puts more negative spotlight on the club, more pressure on himself and affects the squad negatively I presume.

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2 hours ago, Barbara said:

The truth hurts people
Dozens of you said many times that Conte brought the best out of many average players we have, that we overachieved and outperformed and when he says that he's able to do that he's lacking *false* modesty and humbleness *rolls eyes*
Why can't someone admit what they are good at?
I'm tired of those politically correct people. They suck monkey balls, unbearable people who are annoying as hell and looks like a mark of this age, all generations included. I despise politically correct attitude

Its not about being politically correct. Its about not being stupid. 

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