The English Football Thread

[bushman 2,043]

Well, the stallions of Chelsea are off & running, carthorses of Citeh are close behind & while arsenal donkeys are limping.

According to many Chelsea should win the PL, I read. I hope, it will be true.

Currently, even Liverpool are closing in. Who knows, what may happen, then ?

[gary gordon 1,777]

Lol at Wenger trying the mind games on Jose by saying the league is ours to lose. Can't wait for Jose's response.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I'm not sure that it's what is needed, if you take Patrick Bamford as an example, assuming he would have got into the Chelsea team for this league if it were up and running now.

What would be best for him? Playing in the Premiership B League against mainly squad players and kids and a few experienced pros on the way back from injury, or half a season in league one and another half a season at the top of the championship banging goals in and coming up against experienced pros week in week out.

Why only categorie 1 clubs? If it is about the development of ENGLISH youth as Scudamore suggests, a lot of the future England stars are currently at category 2 and 3 clubs.

This is just another crap idea to be honest. If you want to develop English talent then let top clubs have PROPER teams competing in the lower leagues. Why would we put Piazon or Bamford in a 'B League' team when they can play PROPER competitive football? Scudamore is a fucking moron.

Maybe I'm pissing on tradition but do we really need Burton or Fleetwood in League Two? What about Huddersfield or Doncaster in the Championship? If you're talking about elite player development then what exactly do these teams contribute to the next Wayne Rooney being found?

Let the top clubs have B teams who can compete in the lower leagues but not be promoted. That might not sound fair, but is it any fairer for a club like Middlesborough to loan elite young talent like Omeruo and Chalobah to help them beat teams who can't get players like that?

[Benches not the shed 77]

I see where you're coming from but I think the small clubs are what makes our pyramid system so good... Fleetwood, Stevenage, Burton and all the others started out like my local non league team Wealdstone did, all dreaming of playing in the big league. To take that dream away just makes there leagues unimportant IMO.

There could be some sort of set up though where Premier league clubs loan out 2 or 3 players to a certain club a season and then any player who comes through the lower league teams system goes to the premier league team they have ties with for a handsome price. This pretty much goes on anyway with some clubs always loaning out to a particular club in the lower leagues.

I don't think it could ever happen though as there are just too many things that could get in the way like drawing each other in cups and all that sort of political tosh.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I see where you're coming from but I think the small clubs are what makes our pyramid system so good... Fleetwood, Stevenage, Burton and all the others started out like my local non league team Wealdstone did, all dreaming of playing in the big league. To take that dream away just makes there leagues unimportant IMO.

There could be some sort of set up though where Premier league clubs loan out 2 or 3 players to a certain club a season and then any player who comes through the lower league teams system goes to the premier league team they have ties with for a handsome price. This pretty much goes on anyway with some clubs always loaning out to a particular club in the lower leagues.

I don't think it could ever happen though as there are just too many things that could get in the way like drawing each other in cups and all that sort of political tosh.

Well that's the problem. The 'romance' of the idea of these smaller clubs will get in the way of doing other things, so instead we simply rename the reserves to the 'u21' and then we rename that the 'b-league'.

The best setup possible at the moment is the one we have with Vitesse where you loan them half-a-dozen players and they play in a similar system to this one. Chalobah went on loan to Forest but the style of football he's been taught to play over the last decade is completely different from what they wanted him to, so he lost half-a-season of his young football life.

Ideally what we'd have is a Barcelona B situation where players played in the same system as us, at a competitive level.

But that won't happen. We won't develop young English players who 50 million people could watch lead us to World Cup glory and why???

Because it might be unfair on the 1,878 people who attend Dagenham's home matches.

And when the 'b league' doesn't offer any real improvements, we'll rename it the 'Elite Development League'. Or maybe just Diet Premier League.

[Benches not the shed 77]

There are changes that have recently gone on behind the scenes at England at youth levels , that I think will play dividends in ten years.

We will never change the way the England senior team plays it football unless things are changed at under 7,8,9 etc in ALL the academies and school of excellences, not just category 1 clubs.

I watch it week in week out, and there are more clubs that play long ball stuff than on the ground. These clubs should have funding stopped or some other sort of financial punishment dished out, otherwise they will never change.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Chief executive Richard Scudamore confirms plans for a Premier League 'B' league

Vitesse are going to lose out on a lot of Chelsea talent.

[Special Juan 27,439]

Palmeri

[The only place to be 11,313]

There are changes that have recently gone on behind the scenes at England at youth levels , that I think will play dividends in ten years.

We will never change the way the England senior team plays it football unless things are changed at under 7,8,9 etc in ALL the academies and school of excellences, not just category 1 clubs.

I watch it week in week out, and there are more clubs that play long ball stuff than on the ground. These clubs should have funding stopped or some other sort of financial punishment dished out, otherwise they will never change.

Definitely agree with that. Smaller pitches, focus on technical skills, less emphasis on short-term results.

It's what happened in the FA Youth Cup match with Norwich. They set up purely to defend and hit us on the counter, but that bears no relation to what they'll be asked to do if they reach the first-team. Our team actually focused on playing football that translates to the first-team better - results versus development.

Not that I'm bitter about the result or anything.

@tancredipalmeri Wenger met Van Persie agent on 28 january. Both Wenger and Van Persie wants to join back. Mufc open to that

[Svita 10 186]

Magath as a new coach of Fulham. He will destroy them with his methods of condition

[zyzz 711]

Will be interesting to see how he does in the pl

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Where is Rene?

No news about his exit.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Where is Rene?

No news about his exit.

Sacked.

BBC

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Sacked.

BBC

ok... it's strange...

A club statement made no mention of Meulensteen...

[Sidzeret 2,257]

hazard kicked ball under ball boy - gets banned

Andy carol touches someones hair - gets banned

yaya pushes mata - FA ignores

yaya kickes at a person - FA ignores

is yaya bullying the FA or something?

Aguero pounces on Luiz, FA ignores.

Ashley Cole is a legend for that twitter post- #BunchOfTwats

[Liquidator 5,176]

Fulham away will now be much tougher with a new manager in charge for them

[Jase 43,479]

Ridiculous to sack Meulensteen this fast after allowing him to spend a lot last month. And if Felix Magath's record of being a nutcase is anything to go by, then this should be funny though he has also won trophies too.

[Jase 43,479]

Bundesliga unites in its distaste for Felix Magath's acts of unkindness