The Big Drog 1,110 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Exactly and that is not what we need. The team that beat us was done because of a good manager that has been able to handle his business in the squad. And not to mention he has also had bad seasons like Carlo has had. Some really bad seasons, that people similar like you started calling for SAF head despite what he had done in the past....All the same, the bad seasons he had was more down to having a really sub standard squad than anything else, our squad right now is pretty good yet we were knocked out at the last 16 stage last year and the quater final stage this year, that isn't good enough. Tactically Ancelotti is inept and I think there are serious doubts as to wether he is a visionary who can see beyond the present and do what is best for the team for the future and thats what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 #1Did you get there late too?Yeah mate, me and ray were in the same coach. Coach B..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,980 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just returned from the meeting. I am not angry, nor disappointed, nor frustrated. Sad is the right word, so sad. However, we absolutely didn't deserve to go through. Man United were better - the performance, the tactics, how they took their chances. We were alive only 30 seconds and that's sad. Never mind, KTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 All the same, the bad seasons he had was more down to having a really sub standard squad than anything else, our squad right now is pretty good yet we were knocked out at the last 16 stage last year and the quater final stage this year, that isn't good enough. Tactically Ancelotti is inept and I think there are serious doubts as to wether he is a visionary who can see beyond the present and do what is best for the team for the future and thats what we need.Our squad right now is good???You don't say? So why on the third season of Mourinho reign he was complaining to buy more players, as that is the season he started to go down???And that was back then. Now our squad is more weaker then that one which Mourinho wanted to make more stronger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Our squad right now is good???You don't say? So why on the third season of Mourinho reign he was complaining to buy more players, as that is the season he started to go down???And that was back then. Now our squad is more weaker then that one which Mourinho wanted to make more stronger....Since then we've brought in Ramires, Luiz, Ivanovic, Anelka, Zhirkov, Sturridge and Benayoun and there are probably others Im forgetting. I dont disagree that the squad is weaker now than before but Man Utd's squad is significantly weaker now than it was before too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Since then we've brought in Ramires, Luiz, Ivanovic, Anelka, Zhirkov, Sturridge and Benayoun and there are probably others Im forgetting. I dont disagree that the squad is weaker now than before but Man Utd's squad is significantly weaker now than it was before too.Different players that have been brought by different managers for different purposes. Ivan and Anelka, Avram. Yury Guss. Bosingwa Scolari. If we keep firing coach's, then we will never have one coach that can buy players according to his philosophy like SAF does at United. Now we have done good in buying Ramires, Yossi and David Luiz. We should continue that trend, and not mess up the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Different players that have been brought by different managers for different purposes. Ivan and Anelka, Avram. Yury Guss. Bosingwa Scolari. If we keep firing coach's, then we will never have one coach that can buy players according to his philosophy like SAF does at United. Now we have done good in buying Ramires, Yossi and David Luiz. We should continue that trend, and not mess up the work.I agree that we need stability, that we should have a manager in place that is here for the long term, that the club believes in to produce in the present and build for the future but I dont think Ancelotti is that man, his complete lack of conviction and bravery over the 2 legs against Man Utd confirm that belief aswell as the awful league position. Lets definitely look for stability, lets let a manager build his squad, one that he thinks can win trophies in the present and for years to come but lets make sure its the right manager doing that, lets get the right man in charge because if we are judging Ancelotti on this season's performance, he isn't that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGS 7 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Now we have done good in buying Ramires, Yossi and David Luiz. We should continue that trend, and not mess up the work.You forgot about Torres, he is the worst transfer so far. He should not start in yesterday's important match. Drogba is the man who scores to Man Utd. Cmon it is logical, but no Ancelloti had put Torres in the main squad, stupidity.,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 You forgot about Torres, he is the worst transfer so far. He should not start in yesterday's important match. Drogba is the man who scores to Man Utd. Cmon it is logical, but no Ancelloti had put Torres in the main squad, stupidity.,..Bought by Roman.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 All the same, the bad seasons he had was more down to having a really sub standard squad than anything else, our squad right now is pretty good yet we were knocked out at the last 16 stage last year and the quater final stage this year, that isn't good enough. Tactically Ancelotti is inept and I think there are serious doubts as to wether he is a visionary who can see beyond the present and do what is best for the team for the future and thats what we need.On the paper our squad is strong, the names are well known but we play like amateurs at times. It's not Ancelotti , it's the veteran players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 On the paper our squad is strong, the names are well known but we play like amateurs at times. It's not Ancelotti , it's the veteran playersBut Ancellotti has been proven to be tatically inferior to Fergusen and Mourinho since being at Chelsea. His champs league results could have been obtained if any one of us where manager.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I agree that we need stability, that we should have a manager in place that is here for the long term, that the club believes in to produce in the present and build for the future but I dont think Ancelotti is that man, his complete lack of conviction and bravery over the 2 legs against Man Utd confirm that belief aswell as the awful league position. Lets definitely look for stability, lets let a manager build his squad, one that he thinks can win trophies in the present and for years to come but lets make sure its the right manager doing that, lets get the right man in charge because if we are judging Ancelotti on this season's performance, he isn't that man.OK who you think is better then Carlo that is available right now?If anything i think is next year when some good coach might come available.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 What was the formation last night, guys? CechIvanovic - Alex - Terry - ColeRamires - Essien - MaloudaAnelka - LampardTorresI think it was that, the old Christmas Tree. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 OK who you think is better then Carlo that is available right now?If anything i think is next year when some good coach might come available....Why not go for an established PL manager - Martin o Neill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 OK who you think is better then Carlo that is available right now?If anything i think is next year when some good coach might come available....This is the issue there are no Avalible world class managers out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The best thing in the match was that the Chelsea fans all the time singing for the team at Old Traford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 This is the issue there are no Avalible world class managers out thereIt is why i said let Carlo finish his contract. If he still does bad, he goes for free, and we don't owe no money.Just keep buying the players we need in Van der Wiel, Alexis Sanchez, and a creative force. Then after his contract is up if Roman likes him still, he will give him more time or by then have enough time to get a replacement.For the sake of the club Carlo has to finish his contract, and buy players in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just read that Marcelo Lippi "would love to manage in the Premier League and would love to coach Chelsea", direct Lippi's quotes apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 sry but anybody who demands ancelotti to be the trainer for a longer period is a fool, just look at his record with milan:coppa italia: 2003Serie A : 2004Supercoppa Italiana :2004Champions League: 2003, 2007Super-Cup: 2003, 2007Club World Cup: 2007in eight yeras he won 8 Trohpys, and only one Leaguetitle, this is a complete joke, I was reffering to this fact way before but was criticised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just read that Marcelo Lippi "would love to manage in the Premier League and would love to coach Chelsea", direct Lippi's quotes apparentlyhas the Predigree but run the risk of another Capello.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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