Wayne Rooney

[samzilla 517]

After everything that's gone down, there's no way Moyes wouldn't start Rooney against us, even if Moyes didn't really want to.

[Special Juan 28,763]

On Moyes, the bloke looks fucking ill. Just seen him on tv and he looks like a chain smoking smack head.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Jose said that Mata is not for sale, but he also said Rooney or bust a few weeks ago. I don't want Mata to go, or see him play in a United shirt, but the closer to the conclusion of the transfer window, the more the player swap which perhaps is not going to happen, becomes a relatively realistic prospect. With us making a weird, seemingly largely unnecessary signing, and then the very same day Moyes comes out and says that United could end up not buying anyone this season, a realistic option is that there could be a player swap between us and them indeed taking place. It's just like adding 2+2. They want a new signing, but will probably not end up buying. Their no.10 wants out, and wants to join us, we have a surplus of players who can play the no.10, and we want their no.10 while they have expressed interest in our no.10 before.

If(probably won't happen, but if)a player swap were to take place, putting things into perspective, the signing of Willian is not a bad idea.

Put it this way, Mata-Rooney swap wouldn't be as bad as some people are making it out to be.

[cadenza666 221]

"Wayne has recovered and has a good chance of starting,"

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8885742/

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

If he plays any part against us, then imo there is no chance of him joining Chelsea.

Why is that? Torres scored twice against us right before he joined.

[John1611 77]

Put it this way, Mata-Rooney swap wouldn't be as bad as some people are making it out to be.

It wouldn't be a tragedy. And it's realistic. Of course as a Chelsea fan, I don't want to see Mata in a United shirt, I don't want to see him score for them/celebrate with them, and I want him to stay as he's got every chance of becoming a club legend in the future. But at the same time I'm aware of the fact that for some reason Mazcar doesn't work the way it ought to, it's not about one player but about the overall good of the team, we really need Rooney, and we've got quite a few players who can excel in the number ten role. Our signing of Willian is a beautiful move, if a player swap were to indeed take place.

It's realistic that the following could happen:

1. One or two days after the United game, we come in with a bid of £30 with add ons amounting to £35 million.

2. They reject the bid.

3. We improve the bid to £40 million and say they either take it or leave it.

4. They reject it and reiterate Rooney's not for sale this summer.

5. We're forced to go to our plan B, which is player swap. We offer them Willian(I know this is very unlikely) + money, say £10-15 million.

6. They reject flatly reject that.

7. We move to our last resort which is offering Mata in a straight swap, with them perhaps having to add £5-7 million, since Mata is more valuable than Rooney.

8. They accept the offer.

An unlikely turn of events, yet realistic imho seeing the way things have been going so far. The signing of Willian doesn't look bizarre with that prospect in mind.

I don't want to see Mata go, but I'd rather have this line up if the swap does take place:

-------------------Rooney--------------

----Hazard---Oscar/KDB-----Willian

than this line up, if we keep Mata and let Rooney stay at United:

-----------------Eto'o-----------------

---Hazard-----Mata---------Willian

The second line up would also mean KDB and Oscar sitting on the bench far more, and Schurrle hardly ever getting any minutes. If we swap Mata for Rooney, all of a sudden there's a vacant space in the ACM role, and we've got a lethal striker in our front line.

[Hamilton 2,120]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/23/david-moyes-marouane-fellaini-leighton-baines

And wa can't talk about Rooney?

What an idiot!

[The_Flash 1,144]

Have people been blind for the last season or so. Wayne was very weak at the World Cup ages ago, and last season at Utd he has been very variable. I fear he has peaked, and in all honesty we already have Torres do we need another misfiring striker.

I can only hope if he does come by some miracle he finds his old form and helps but at the minute i think he could be a weaker addition than a stronger one.

[zolayes 14,489]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/23/david-moyes-marouane-fellaini-leighton-baines

And wa can't talk about Rooney?

What an idiot!

Moyes wins H O M hypocrite of month

[Pizy 19,280]

I'm one of the posters here who have thought all along that we'd never swap Mata for Rooney, but I actually think it may very well happen now.

Don't think I could watch United play every weekend with Mata scoring, assisting, and celebrating with the enemy. I'd have to unfollow him on twitter as well since he'd be posting pictures of himself with fucking scum like RvP all the time.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

I'm one of the posters here who have thought all along that we'd never swap Mata for Rooney, but I actually think it may very well happen now.

Don't think I could watch United play every weekend with Mata scoring, assisting, and celebrating with the enemy. I'd have to unfollow him on twitter as well since he'd be posting pictures of himself with fucking scum like RvP all the time.

No we wont. End of story.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I'm one of the posters here who have thought all along that we'd never swap Mata for Rooney, but I actually think it may very well happen now.

Don't think I could watch United play every weekend with Mata scoring, assisting, and celebrating with the enemy. I'd have to unfollow him on twitter as well since he'd be posting pictures of himself with fucking scum like RvP all the time.

Mourinho has already said that Mata won't be sold under any condition. Chelsea will add players, but some will go on loan. no selling your best players. what are we? Arsenal?

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Tough To see it goes through...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

If he plays any part against us, then imo there is no chance of him joining Chelsea.

Why?

[mediator 2,026]

He will score own goals

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Why?

Because if he really want's to join us, there is no way mentally he'll be in the right frame of mind for the match. Regardless of how stubborn Moyes may seem, I don't think he's that stupid to play him if the chances of his transfer to Chelsea are still likely. It'd be like playing a man down.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Because if he really want's to join us, there is no way mentally he'll be in the right frame of mind for the match. Regardless of how stubborn Moyes may seem, I don't think he's that stupid to play him if the chances of his transfer to Chelsea are still likely. It'd be like playing a man down.

He's a professional. He plays football for a living. He was clearly unhappy against Swansea but he still delivered two assists. He should be able to do it again.

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Eto'o's agent, Vigorelli—"I spoke to Jose, who was willing to give Samuel a one-year contract, but Chelsea are waiting for Wayne Rooney."
Eto'o's agent, Vigorelli—"Mourinho only has him [Rooney] in mind & is waiting for the situation with Man United to find a breakthrough."

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

He's a professional. He plays football for a living. He was clearly unhappy against Swansea but he still delivered two assists. He should be able to do it again.

Playing against Swansea is different than playing against the very team you wish to join.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Playing against Swansea is different than playing against the very team you wish to join.

You mean like Torres who bagged a brace against us days before joining us?