Ramires

[DJames 729]

Not much of a blatant dive like Oscar's. Live on TV seems he got the barest of touches from the defender which brought him down given the speed he was going.

Mou really needs to reinforce a no diving policy especially after making swimming pool jokes (even if it was Suarez)

[Wilson 358]

Ramires needs to stop this diving shit! Pissing me off, he's a great player and doesn't need to do it.

[Phil Driver 503]

Yep the diving needs to stop in England ,it is OK in the World Cup and European competition and foreign leagues because they all do it and see it as a valid part of the game ,but not here.

I would even go as far to say you cant win a World cup or Champions league without simulation,England have had players sent off in World cups because players have simulated injury and Michael Owen dived to win a penalty against the Argies which you have to do if you want to win any European or world competition.

[Special Juan 28,123]

Awful from Ramires, but remember, we aren't the first to do it and won't be the last.

[lionsden 4,689]

His lack of composure,finesse and football iq are the reasons why I can never feel comfortable rating him as one of the best players in his position. he might be a key player in our squad but I doubt he had walk into any top team in europe. So the fact that he's our best CM atm speaks more about the low quality of our midfield than rami as a player.

[Mjizzle 2]

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[NiclasCFC 2,582]

Legend.

http://m.skysports.com/article/football//9127882

[yuvala 2,167]

His lack of composure,finesse and football iq are the reasons why I can never feel comfortable rating him as one of the best players in his position. he might be a key player in our squad but I doubt he had walk into any top team in europe. So the fact that he's our best CM atm speaks more about the low quality of our midfield than rami as a player.

You are kinda right but still he is really a key to our midfield and he has certain attributes which make him a very useful, effective player.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

His lack of composure,finesse and football iq are the reasons why I can never feel comfortable rating him as one of the best players in his position. he might be a key player in our squad but I doubt he had walk into any top team in europe. So the fact that he's our best CM atm speaks more about the low quality of our midfield than rami as a player.

He has certain gifts other footballers just envy- his stamina, running, cool headed finishing. He is the sort of footballer than can fit in any team easily.

Your insight really scares me, mate.

[Joshybizzle 109]

I'm a Ramires fan personally, he gets around, he really puts in a shift and he can score and when he does they're more often than not pretty important goals (Barca chip anyone?)

After seeing Matic play against Stoke i'm looking forward to seeing them both playing in the pivot with Matic's defensive solidity and Ramires energy and he may just get a licence to break forward on those lung busting runs which will be great for moving into the oppositions third, same as Matic's crisp passing

The question i'd like to put to you guys is, if Ramires didn't have so much stamina, that willingness to run and run and run would we really rate him? He gets a respectable amount of goals for a deeper lying MF (since he's in the pivot 95% of the time) and assists with 5 goals & 5 assists in 37 games

For Mourhinio's system he's ideal as he can run around just pressing for the whole game and still play an integral part of our system and you can't ignore his versatility, that's not what i'm questioning

TLDR: My question is, without his other worldly stamina and work ethic, would you rate Ramires?

[yuvala 2,167]

I'm a Ramires fan personally, he gets around, he really puts in a shift and he can score and when he does they're more often than not pretty important goals (Barca chip anyone?)

After seeing Matic play against Stoke i'm looking forward to seeing them both playing in the pivot with Matic's defensive solidity and Ramires energy and he may just get a licence to break forward on those lung busting runs which will be great for moving into the oppositions third, same as Matic's crisp passing

The question i'd like to put to you guys is, if Ramires didn't have so much stamina, that willingness to run and run and run would we really rate him? He gets a respectable amount of goals for a deeper lying MF (since he's in the pivot 95% of the time) and assists with 5 goals & 5 assists in 37 games

For Mourhinio's system he's ideal as he can run around just pressing for the whole game and still play an integral part of our system and you can't ignore his versatility, that's not what i'm questioning

TLDR: My question is, without his other worldly stamina and work ethic, would you rate Ramires?

I'd rate him significantly lower if he didn't have the stamina.. its his main attribute IMO. And it goes together with his pace.

[Svita 10 186]

I just look on transfermarkt and his value is 27M, isn´t too much for non-passing midfielder? He was poor today

[Gilvorak 3,734]

He was shit but this type of game wasn't where we could maximize his strengths. No point playing him against teams that park the bus.

Blame Jose.

[xPetrCechx 13,569]

was SHIT.

[Excalibur KTBFFH 109]

Another player who is not as good as some people think he is. And people think he is a dead cert in the future Chelsea? Bull. Gundogan, Kroos.... That's the way to go. Midfield controllers, not headless chickens who can't pass a football and lack composure in the 18 yard box.