Ramires

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

Like i said after the Southampton game, he's not suited for every type of match. I would play him in every big game, or tough games away from home, but at home against teams that just defend all the time he should be resting on the bench.

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One of the best big game players

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Best player against arsenal.

Had 9 tackles,

ran all through the match with immense energy

He is just perfect against any team that puts us under pressure.

[DH1988 1,273]

Good game, by far not one of my favourite players at all, I feel he hinders the team MOST of the time.

Him and lamps seem to get drawn to the ball instead of picking up runners, which is frustrating, Ivan and Cahill have the same problem, ball watchers!

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When he's the best player on the team, something's wrong.

I love the guy, but he's at his best when the pressure is on and your back is against the wall, but we shouldn't be in that position. We should be dominating teams and with him and Lamps in midfield, we simply don't. I hate to criticise the guy because he always puts in a shift, but he simply doesn't fit into the team we want to be going forward.

[bushman 2,043]

Ramires fits into the team just fine. Personally, I wish he was built a bit stronger.

[Igi26 346]

Ramires fits into the team just fine. Personally, I wish he was built a bit stronger.

He is strong for his size, speed and agility. He is actualy very strong, gets out of challanges as winner mostly, tackling is superb, he is also deadly on counter attacks with his pace. Also if he was heavier he wouldn't have same stamina.

[bushman 2,043]

He is strong for his size, speed and agility. He is actualy very strong, gets out of challanges as winner mostly, tackling is superb, he is also deadly on counter attacks with his pace. Also if he was heavier he wouldn't have same stamina.

Sometimes, I have seen him being bounced off quite easily though.

Perhaps, a bit more muscles on his upper body ?

[bitee 12]

i loved this guy from the beginning. a top player

[Land 331]

When he's the best player on the team, something's wrong.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

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What a ridiculous thing to say.

Did you read the rest of my post? If I had just said the line you quoted then I'd probably agree with you, but taken as a whole I think it's less ridiculous no?

[Land 331]

We completely dominated Le Arse on the first half and thats when he played the best

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We completely dominated Le Arse on the first half and thats when he played the best

I thought he stood out more in the second, when we were pretty woeful.

[bababoom 4,478]

Ramires is brilliant technically, he keeps the ball under control.

Are you talking about Chelsea's Ramires? that doesn't sound like him at all.. haha

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I'm serious, what matters is to be efficient and Ramires clearly is, most of the time he has to be fouled because opponents can't recover the ball farily.

There's a kind of urban myth about him, his game has to be put in perspective. He's a quite unique player and efficient at everything he does, even the passing game (players with a much vertical game tend not to know to play sideways, Ramires clearly know how to do so)

I agree that the story of him having weak technical abilities is exaggerated, but to say he is technically brilliant is even more of an exaggeration!

[Rmpr 8,977]

I agree that the story of him having weak technical abilities is exaggerated, but to say he is technically brilliant is even more of an exaggeration!

Definetly! Rambo is a great player and better than people think, but to say he is technically brilliant is just as an overreaction.

I do think he does a fine job in his role, but he lacks some ball control, vision, skills, etc.

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Ramires' creativity and ability to pick an unmarked player at the end of his runs makes him one of the best in his position.

Can we move this thread to the Transfer Talk forum - we should really be looking at signing this 'Ramires' guy.

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Do you think Ramires' assist to Drogba against Barcelona was due to the position of the moon, the fact Ramires slipped on the wet pitch or a genuine eye for the pass ?

And that's the most striking example, the one you're the most likely to recall

Some really should put into perspective their *expectations*

I think that game perfectly encapsulates where Ramires is at his best - when we're playing with out backs against the walls and teams commit men forwards. He's able to exploit the broken field, when players are pulled out of position and transition into defence slowly, and make surging runs.

But that depends on other teams dictating the tempo and dominating possession. My contention is that other options in that position would actually allow us to control the game better.

Some should really put individual performances into the context of the game - that's the game they see on the pitch, not on whoscored.com.

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Possession means nothing if you don't have any options to penetrate at the end of your sequences.

Which is what I think we have through the likes of Hazard, Mata, Moses and the playmaker I'd like to have alongside a DM in midfield. I think Ramires is great at turning defence into attack against teams who commit men forward, but if we had a stronger midfield I don't think they'd be in a position to do that quite so much.

That's what my original point related to. If Ramires is our best player, then chances are we're playing on the back foot and he's either defending well (as he did on Sunday) or leading the charge on the breakaway (as he did against Barca). Ideally, we wouldn't be in that position in the first place though.