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The loan deals for young players are there to get them used to consequential football, not to turn them from academy players into Premier League ones. It time to start easing Chalobah into the first team with games here and there, as was begun with Josh and then abandoned. Barkley never impressed in the Championship either, now look at him.

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9099162/

Chalobah linked with a move to Middlesbrough and they are, apparently, looking to agree on some loan deals with us.

They want Essien too. I spoke with Mark Proctor yesterday and he confirmed this.

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Barkley hardly set the world alight last year look at him now.

yes, maybe, but its probably easier to get in to Everton's team than in to ours. Evereton often dont have the money to spend big on players and so they try to utilize more academy players. we in contraire are a top team and its way harder for a young player to get into it if you arent even expressing yourself at your loan. Me, personally would give him a shot, but I dont think Mou will do it. looking at Madrid, he mostly played Morata (who was one of the best in the Castilla) for example or Nacho (probably the best defender of the Castilla).

Also Mou already said that he will start our best players against Derby, so no chance for the youngsters beside maybe the 2nd half if we have a solid result by then.

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He didn't suck last year in the Championship, he's just struggled at Forest this year. Last year he did enough did deserve a chance in my opinion.

He's a terrible defender and has a poor workrate/engine.

I'm not surprised he's getting booed every other game at Forest.

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You can't judge a player by how well they did in the Championship. Barkley was unimpressive, while Zaha tore it apart. Now look at them.

You're wrong. You can judge a player based on the Championship, just like you can judge people based on their play in the Dutch league or the MLS. People have to stop bringing up Barkley as a comparison because it's awful. He played 17 games in the Championship and was fine when he played. He scored 4 goals in 13 games with Sheffield where he was very good. The reason he didn't play much at Leeds is because, according to their manager, "He’s best playing behind a frontman, but that was difficult for me at Leeds as I had Ross McCormack and that was his best position too. McCormack was the No 1 man at Leeds so it was hard to leave him out for a teenager on loan, but when I played one of them wide it didn’t suit either of their strengths." Barkely also played 9 games with Everton last year and 9 the year before so they knew what they had. Chalobah hasn't played a single game above the Championship and isn't not playing because Forest is stacked, he's not playing because he's been poor. And Zaha not playing is more an indictment of the talent difference between the Championship and Premier League than anything else. It's a massive jump that few players are able to make. Even the best players in the Championship have difficulty impacting the Premier League. Chalobah needs a good loan where he can get playing time and work on his game. He's gone backwards since last season.

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He's a terrible defender and has a poor workrate/engine.

I'm not surprised he's getting booed every other game at Forest.

yep. sadly he is lazy and barely bothers putting a foot in. lets himself get bullied off the ball too. (zaha in playoff)

unlike ake who always worked hard when he played for us.

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sadly he is lazy and barely bothers putting a foot in.

Bollocks. Watched the kid a lot and whilst he can look a little 'relaxed' at times, he's rarely caught out of position and is hardly a turnstile.

He's a terrible defender and has a poor workrate/engine.

Always found his reading of the game great and never had a problem with his workrate. But I can understand why you might think that, because when I was much younger I thought the same of players like Tony Adams. Because they weren't running around like headless chicken I thought they were lazy but you come to realise that their reading of the game means they don't really have to.

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