Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 It's no secret that Dzeko has been on Mourinho's wishlist for quite some time now. He loves those types of strikers - tall, strong, holds up the ball, muscles out defenders, strong shot, great in the air, sound familiar? City are most likely looking to sell and we could probably get him a fair price at the moment. I still don't think it would happen, but Dzeko would be a nice signing. Definitely a Mou signing. Yeh, I just don't see City selling him to us. They're not gonna strengthen a title rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Buy him just so that he stops scoring against usHe scored against us in two friendlies. Big deal. We had a 17 year old with no prior first team experience marking him. He has not scored against us in actualy competitive fixtures IIRC. You make it sound as if he is a nemesis against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Wouldn't mind him if the following things happen :A. Get rid of torres B. Don't bring anyone else in. C. He is cheap. Lukaku dzeko and ba would be an ok strike force. Definitely something that Mourinho could work with. Wouldn't be the greatest attack by all means, but provided we bought a proper player for the pivot I still think we could do really well. Can't see it happening, unless we pay over the odds as city have no reason to want to sell to us when we are direct challengers. Wouldn't surprise me if they would rather sell him for 5 mil less and go elsewhere rather than us. Alternatively do the 40 mil plus torres swap for Cavani and not worry about any of this lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Nah cant see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 He scored against us in two friendlies. Big deal. We had a 17 year old with no prior first team experience marking him. He has not scored against us in actualy competitive fixtures IIRC. You make it sound as if he is a nemesis against us.This. He's hardly ever played well vs Chelsea, i remember in his first season when he lead the line vs Terry and Luiz. It was one of the most pathetic centre forward performances i've ever seen - considering even the average strikers in the PL find a way to score against us lol.Care to elaborate?I don't rate Dzeko very highly, especially not to be our starting striker. This is just based on his time in the PL, never seen him for the national team or at his former club. He would do alright at Napoli though with their counter-attacking system. Oh god...Gomez is rubbish.Dzeko would offer something different to our attack...cause Ba is a limited striker, Torres is Torres and Lukaku is still learning.No, he's good. He is just like most strikers who struggle in tight games where not many chances can be created. But his finishing and movement are very good so if you can get him just 1 chance, there's a very good chance he'll put it in. He scored like 10 in his last 10 for Bayern last season, while being 2nd choice to Mandzukic.I mean this guy in the last 5 seasons has hit 35 or more goals 3 times, can't ask for much more from a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I rate him very high. Hope this is happening. His scoring stats is very good.Wolfsburg : 142 app - 85 goalsManchester City : 106 app - 40 goalsReminds you that in Manchester City he is not often playing for 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Wouldn't mind Dzeko at all especially if we can get rid of Torres. Would allow Lukaku to grow whilst having him around. Dzeko is underused by City and very underrated. He's a great striker IMO.Dzeko - Lukaku - Ba is a great strike force IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I rate him very high. Hope this is happening. His scoring stats is very good.Wolfsburg : 142 app - 85 goalsManchester City : 106 app - 40 goalsReminds you that in Manchester City he is not often playing for 90 minutes.According to wiki, Gomez has 113 goals in 176 games for Bayern, even better, no?Wouldn't mind Dzeko at all especially if we can get rid of Torres. Would allow Lukaku to grow whilst having him around.Dzeko is underused by City and very underrated. He's a great striker IMO.Dzeko - Lukaku - Ba is a great strike force IMO.Hardly underused, definitely not underrated. Man city have 2 better strikers than him, so it's no surprise he struggles to get minutes.Dzeko, Lukaku, Ba? CL winning attack? erm i'm not even sure it can win PL lol. We don't need a 50m striker really, but someone that can score 25+ goals in a season is needed to lead our line, with Lukaku/Ba providing good enough back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 According to wiki, Gomez has 113 goals in 176 games for Bayern, even better, no?Yes, in terms of stats, but sorry I'm not watching Gomez playing at Bayern a lot, so I can't compare him with Dzeko.And also I'm not expected Dzeko to become the main striker in Chelsea if he join us. What I see from him is that his effectiveness to score goals even as a substitute. Another factor is because he is adapted well in Premiere League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 According to wiki, Gomez has 113 goals in 176 games for Bayern, even better, no?Hardly underused, definitely not underrated. Man city have 2 better strikers than him, so it's no surprise he struggles to get minutes.Dzeko, Lukaku, Ba? CL winning attack? erm i'm not even sure it can win PL lol. We don't need a 50m striker really, but someone that can score 25+ goals in a season is needed to lead our line, with Lukaku/Ba providing good enough back up.Yeh, must be so hard to score goals when you have the best midfield in Germany behind you.Gomez doesn't offer anything different to Lukaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yes, in terms of stats, but sorry I'm not watching Gomez playing at Bayern a lot, so I can't compare him with Dzeko.And also I'm not expected Dzeko to become the main striker in Chelsea if he join us. What I see from him is that his effectiveness to score goals even as a substitute. Another factor is because he is adapted well in Premiere League.Yep the only thing might be adapting to the league. As for substitute factor, you're probably right: Dzeko got 8 goals in 20 starts, and 7 goals in 18 substitute appearances. But why get him as sub, when we already have someone like Lukaku? we need someone who's going to lead the line most games, and sorry, but Dzeko doesn't cut it for me.Yeh, must be so hard to score goals when you have the best midfield in Germany behind you.Gomez doesn't offer anything different to Lukaku.Ridiculously unfair. Put Torres or Ba in Bayern team and you will see the difference. They create chances, but it's still up to the striker to put the ball in the net, and that's what Gomez has been doing consistently well...forever.Can't even compare him with Lukaku, the latter is younger and faster, but Gomez better at probably everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Can someone please tell me how many starts for City, and how many goals in those starts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Can someone please tell me how many starts for City, and how many goals in those starts ? Games Started: 20Goals Scored: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,517 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Ridiculously unfair. Put Torres or Ba in Bayern team and you will see the difference. They create chances, but it's still up to the striker to put the ball in the net, and that's what Gomez has been doing consistently well...forever.Can't even compare him with Lukaku, the latter is younger and faster, but Gomez better at probably everything else.I get your point and I'd take Gomez..for the right price...probably around 15-20 million.The same goes for Dzeko...not worth more than 20 million.My opinion for Gomez is fairly bias...for some reason I just don't like him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yep the only thing might be adapting to the league. As for substitute factor, you're probably right: Dzeko got 8 goals in 20 starts, and 7 goals in 18 substitute appearances. But why get him as sub, when we already have someone like Lukaku? we need someone who's going to lead the line most games, and sorry, but Dzeko doesn't cut it for me.Okay, I've got your point there. If we can get one of the three wonder strikers, surely no need for Dzeko here. But if we can't make it, Dzeko still is a good option in my opinion.As a lot of people stated Dzeko - Ba - Lukaku is better than Torres - Ba - Lukaku, to be honest I wouldn't mind if it is Torres - Dzeko - Ba/Lukaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I don't rate Dzeko very highly, especially not to be our starting striker. This is just based on his time in the PL, never seen him for the national team or at his former club. He would do alright at Napoli though with their counter-attacking system. With Benitez at the helm, think we can stop associating Napoli with counter attacks. They certainly aren't going to play the same way they did under Walter Mazzarri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 With Benitez at the helm, think we can stop associating Napoli with counter attacks. They certainly aren't going to play the same way they did under Walter Mazzarri.I actually forgot, good point. But maybe Rafa can use the 4-4-1-1 formation he used here against Basel, that was sexy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I actually forgot, good point. But maybe Rafa can use the 4-4-1-1 formation he used here against Basel, that was sexy stuff.That was just a counter attacking approach setup for that game alone, regardless of the formation used. And Benitez isn't known to be a counter attacking manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 And Benitez isn't known to be a counter attacking manager.Actually, he is. His whole system during his spell at Liverpool was based on counters, hence Torres blossomed there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Actually, he is. His whole system during his spell at Liverpool was based on counters, hence why Torres blossomed there.Not necessarily. His system was about getting the best out of Torres (and Gerrard for that matter if you like) by playing quick and direct passes into space for him. Doesn't always play in counter attacking mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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