Pizy 18,952 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 25 minutes ago, The Chels said: For sure, especially given that Costa is the ideal striker for Simeone's system and together they make for one hell of a match-up. Unfortunately for us though, it looks more likely that they will be reunited at Atleti than here. Don't see any chance of us selling him. Unless they offer us £50m which they won't/can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 So glad @CHOULO19 is here to silence the Serie A 'experts' who genuinely believe Conte is superior to Allegri. As someone who also watches a lot of Juve (always liked them a bit because my dad was a Juve fan), Allegri is a really good manager. He almost went to the extent of almost winning the Champions League which is something Conte can never dream of. His rotation policy and his ability to adapt to different scenarios is top draw. To add to that, he makes really smart substitutions in big games. For example, in the Home leg against Madrid in the CL Semi-final he brought on Pereyra, an attacking player, on for Tevez. Someone like Mourinho or even in some games Hiddink would have brought on a defensive midfielder into the game. This allowed Juve to be extremely dangerous on the counter to the point of being able to nearly score 2 or 3 more goals in the last minutes of the game Juve might have started the season terribly, but it was more or less expected given the loss of 3 important players in Vidal, Pirlo, and Tevez. Nevertheless, Max is a big part of Juve's awakening and is also building a world class team for the future. Chelsea4, The Skipper and Cosmin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Let's see whether Allegri can do better than Conte against Bayern Munich. Allegri fucked it up at Milan, one very good season at Juve doesn't make him great imo. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Essien19 said: Let's see whether Allegri can do better than Conte against Bayern Munich. Allegri fucked it up at Milan, one very good season at Juve doesn't make him great imo. Milan is rotten to the core. They just signed Kevin Prince Boateng again. That alone shows their board's incompetence. A manager's record at Milan in recent years can never be judged upon with accuracy. Also, what conclusion can we draw if Allegri fails or succeeds in defeating Pep's Bayern? Any conclusion regarding this was drawn months ago. Juve, in a season where Conte himself said would even struggle for domestic dominance, went on to almost win Europe, a competition where Conte has been a massive failure at. Chelsea4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Amblève. 4,995 Posted February 5, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted February 5, 2016 God, I can't be the only one feeling fucking amazing about finally being linked with a competent coach! Now simply get that contract done. MefiX19, HRiver, manpe and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, Hybrid Angel said: Milan is rotten to the core. They just signed Kevin Prince Boateng again. That alone shows their board's incompetence. A manager's record at Milan in recent years can never be judged upon with accuracy. Also, what conclusion can we draw if Allegri fails or succeeds in defeating Pep's Bayern? Any conclusion regarding this was drawn months ago. Juve, in a season where Conte himself said would even struggle for domestic dominance, went on to almost win Europe, a competition where Conte has been a massive failure at. He won the championship with Milan and then it went downwards. We aren't talking about one bad season, it got worse and worse, i think we're talking about 3,5 years, completely out of his depth. Talk to some Milan fans, most of them are completely furious with him. Allegri has far superior players, Pogba is getting better and better, yes, i don't want to take away the credit, but you've gotta be fair. In my opinion Juve under Conte was chanceless against Bayern, Heynckes steamrolled them. As i said before, i don't demand a win, but you should stand a chance, let's see if Allegri is up for it. Today, we're talking about one good season, Conte delivered for three years! Blue Colored Sky, Fernando and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 19 minutes ago, Essien19 said: He won the championship with Milan and then it went downwards. We aren't talking about one bad season, it got worse and worse, i think we're talking about 3,5 years, completely out of his depth. Talk to some Milan fans, most of them are completely furious with him. Allegri has far superior players, Pogba is getting better and better, yes, i don't want to take away the credit, but you've gotta be fair. In my opinion Juve under Conte was chanceless against Bayern, Heynckes steamrolled them. As i said before, i don't demand a win, but you should stand a chance, let's see if Allegri is up for it. Today, we're talking about one good season, Conte delivered for three years! Yeah that's what I'm saying. He still took a team build from the previous man. The bigger performer where past players from conte. And let's not forget that a lot times, players and coaches have a one season wonder. Leicester and Ranieri is perfect current example. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Allegri sounds pretty fantastic, get him here already. TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 hours ago, *Z4YN said: I love Simeone and I often pointed out that Simeone represents everything what Chelsea stands for. Concerning Conte and Allegri, I definitely rate Allegri higher than Conte. I don't get the fuss about Conte. He won a league with no real opponent and underachieved in Europe. He isn't exactly doing miracles with the Italian National Team either. I don't get the hype. Let's not neglect some shambolic performances of Conte's sides (Nordsjaelland!) I like Conte as a person but that's it. What does Chelsea stand for? Regarding Conte it is as if you haven't read the last two pages of this thread. People have explained sufficiently and concisely why Conte's achievements with Juve are to be respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I like the idea of Allegri at Chelsea. Hope it's true. TheIceMan and bellion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 "Pellegrini underachieved, he wasn't able to beat Barcelona and Bayern in Europe!" "Can't criticize Conte's European record, because he was smashed by the mighty Bayern" Oh, boy, the logic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 7 hours ago, Amblève. said: God, I can't be the only one feeling fucking amazing about finally being linked with a competent coach! Now simply get that contract done. Still people on here who want to be negative about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 5 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said: I like the idea of Allegri at Chelsea. Hope it's true. If it's true, we will have to wait till the summer for an official announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I was hoping for my badass homie Diego Simeone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 9 hours ago, Fernando said: Yeah that's what I'm saying. He still took a team build from the previous man. The bigger performer where past players from conte. And let's not forget that a lot times, players and coaches have a one season wonder. Leicester and Ranieri is perfect current example. Many players have left since Conte and this season Juve has lost Vidal,Pirlo and Tevez and they are still fighting for the title. TheIceMan and Cosmin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: Many players have left since Conte and this season Juve has lost Vidal,Pirlo and Tevez and they are still fighting for the title. Allegri did a great job there, he took Pogba to another level, he brought Morata and Dybala. Now they're world class. And they didn't even cost too much, to be honest. Chelsea4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 9 hours ago, Spike said: What does Chelsea stand for? Regarding Conte it is as if you haven't read the last two pages of this thread. People have explained sufficiently and concisely why Conte's achievements with Juve are to be respected. Aggression , power , defence. Opposite of arsenal Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 11 hours ago, Essien19 said: He won the championship with Milan and then it went downwards. We aren't talking about one bad season, it got worse and worse, i think we're talking about 3,5 years, completely out of his depth. Talk to some Milan fans, most of them are completely furious with him. Allegri has far superior players, Pogba is getting better and better, yes, i don't want to take away the credit, but you've gotta be fair. In my opinion Juve under Conte was chanceless against Bayern, Heynckes steamrolled them. As i said before, i don't demand a win, but you should stand a chance, let's see if Allegri is up for it. Today, we're talking about one good season, Conte delivered for three years! Thank you. I was going to write the same last night but was too tired. I have two friends who both are Milan fans, and not related to each other btw, and they both were saying how clueless Allegri was in Milan. Literally every week. He broke Ibra record with streak of winning championships btw, I can't forgive him that ! Otherwise Ibra would be on his 13th season in the row with league title. Even though Ibra was top scorer they blew title away. I think Allegri is a good coach, but from outside, he lacks a personality for me. Looks like perfect fit for good times. We're in pretty bad time now Also what is that with saying that he had huge task on him when took over Juve in 2014/15 season ? In previous campaign Juve won the championship with 102 points with record number of advantage. They didn't sell any important player, well that for me are good times to take team over. Imo Simeone shits on every other candidate but hey, that's why he is by far the hardest to take. Fernando and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 37 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: Thank you. I was going to write the same last night but was too tired. I have two friends who both are Milan fans, and not related to each other btw, and they both were saying how clueless Allegri was in Milan. Literally every week. He broke Ibra record with streak of winning championships btw, I can't forgive him that ! Otherwise Ibra would be on his 13th season in the row with league title. Even though Ibra was top scorer they blew title away. I think Allegri is a good coach, but from outside, he lacks a personality for me. Looks like perfect fit for good times. We're in pretty bad time now Also what is that with saying that he had huge task on him when took over Juve in 2014/15 season ? In previous campaign Juve won the championship with 102 points with record number of advantage. They didn't sell any important player, well that for me are good times to take team over. Imo Simeone shits on every other candidate but hey, that's why he is by far the hardest to take. Surely, your friends are not mad because after Allegri (who made them champions) left, their team went to shit, while the team Allegri took over won almost everything on the table (except for the UCL, which they really got closed to). If Massimiliano was not competent, then why did Juve give him the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 17 hours ago, MefiX19 said: Why people hate Allegri so much? He is brilliant manager who was one step from winning the FUCKING TREBLE with team worth 130 million euros. This season Juve had slow start, but he just broke clubs record with 10+ win in a row. I don't remember much about him, but what i do remember of his time at AC Milan was everybody agreeing in unison that he could not manage the top players. Tactically he was fine, but not fine when it came to dealing with large egos. Though it's probably a bigger problem at Milan than just the manager, I think he saw more injuries than any manager has ever seen to their side too. Wait no I remembered another detail. He was known for never playing the players that the fans wanted. He insisted on his own Ivanovic's who kept failing yet remained in the side (like Abate when De Sciglio was waiting, who eventually had to switch to the left side like Azpi.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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