The Next Manager?

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

15 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

With regards to the bolded: I could say the same thing about Simeone or any other potential manager. So where do we go from here? 

Pochettino's criticisms/down-playing of the League Cup and FA Cup has always struck me as bizarre. But if he was ever appointed here, he'd understand that Chelsea want to win every trophy under-the sun and would thus adjust his mentality so I wouldn't be too concerned about that. Also, your failing to place Pochettino's success in proper context, like @Tomo alluded above, Pochettino is working on the absolute smallest of all budgets at Tottenham due to their owner, and he still just nearly had them winning the league. Yes he lost both times, but how can you not respect the process of how he has turned Spurs into a very formidable footballing outfit? Plus, If we're looking for a manager who understands working under a tight budget, I see no better candidate than Pochettino (along with the other positives I think he would bring.)

What I'm looking for, is a manager that has shown he has the capabilities of building a footballing brand and developing an identity. Especially one that is pressing + attacking based. And of the coaches I mentioned, atleast all of them are capable of that in Tuchel, Leonardo Jardim, Pochettino and Allegri (although the latter not so much imo.) 

Furthermore, your not convinced that Allegri is an excellent coach?!  How can't you rate a man that has gotten his team to 2 Champions League Finals in 3 years. Come on fam. Yes, Allegri is another pragmatic coach, much like Conte, and will cede possession in big matches if he thinks thats the best way to win, but he isn't as tactically rigid formation wise as Antonio Conte. Allegri would be the safest bet, if Chelsea want to continue the same short-term mindset that we are incapable of shaking. Under Allegri, I have no doubt we'll lift a trophy. But please if you don't rate Allegri as a tactical coach, please go watch Juventus vs Barcelona 2017 UCL Semi-Final 1st Leg, that was one of the finest tactical masterclasses you'll ever see. 

 

Fair enough Allegri has gotten to 2 CL finals in 3 years but so did Rafa Benitez at Liverpool, did that make him an excellent coach? Wouldn't say so myself and although Juventus are a good team (they've always been strong in the last 10 years or so tbf), doesn't mean Allegri would be the outstanding choice for our next manager. The safest bet would be Simeone for me if Conte were to go, he is the most like for like replacement for Conte, the team is built to play on a platform built on a solid defence and with a clear defensive structure without the ball. Out of the overly disappointing list of coaches (lets be honest none of them are an improvement on Antonio) Simeone would be the one I'd bank on, although doubt he'd be overly excited about wanting to come here either, hes always had a great relationship with Aletico and their board as well as the fact people keep linking him to Inter. Plus I don't think he'd have much success with his style here because he wouldn't have as many players of a similar quality in the final third to make a real difference like Koke, Griezmann, Costa, Carrasco unless he were to go and sign a few. Juventus Barcelona CL Semi final was a great game (think Juve rode their luck at times) yes but still tactical masterclass, wouldn't say it was anywhere near as good as Bayern's 7-0 win over Barca or Real Madrids massive win v Pep's Bayern under Ancelotti (I think it was under Carlo).

[BlueLyon 9,359]

6 hours ago, Mana said:

Conte and Costa had a massive fell out. Because they both have an ego, I doubt it will be ever be repaired.

You saw Costa's performance in the 2nd half of last season. Abysmal. Him flirting with Atletico etc.

At this point, you choose. Costa or Conte. Because one of them will leave (or misbehave until they DO leave) if Chelsea FC don't back him up.

 

It's easy now in hindsight to say we should have kept Costa, but last January when we were on fire and Conte looked set to become one of CFC's best managers it was hard NOT to back Conte. And Costa has a poor attitude history.

5 hours ago, communicate said:

Costa wanted to leave, not once but twice.  If a player wanted to leave twice you have to sell him. 

Costa might have been flirting with Atletico, and he did want to leave in summer 2016, but he decided to stay and he was about to extend the contract. Regardless he wanted to leave for atletico, he was in best form of his life the next 6 months at Chelsea. Does it realy matter if he isnt here with heart, when he still puts absolutely fantastic performances? Many players we have dont give a shit about chelsea, as long they get paid.

He was however close to extendind the deal but he had argument with Conte in january and instead of Conte being grown adult and sort this shit out, he decided to ship him off. Hence why Costa wasnt his near his best after january.

Not saying Conte was wrong, Costa had some ill moments too at chelsea, but you solve those problems between player and manager, given that Costa was, despite Chelsea fans thinking otherwise, in form one of the 3 best forwards in the world.

 

[bluephoenix 1,131]

This is such a moot question I feel at this point.

I have stopped giving a _______ about this because there is no point. One season and we will be back in this thread.

The real question is do we really need a manager? maybe the board is so awesome with buying players that they think are good that they should probably coach them and manage them as well. Why waste money hiring and firing managers.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

21 hours ago, Strike said:

I'd love to meet Tomo and BlueLyon one day

Cheers, maybe one day at SB 

[11Drogba 2,000]

12 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Cheers, maybe one day at SB 

Since you mentioned that barbecue party with prostitutes everybody wants meet you.

 

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

4 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

Since you mentioned that barbecue party with prostitutes everybody wants meet you.

 

He didn't say prostitutes bruv he said whores...we aint gotta pay

[BlueLyon 9,359]

11 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

Since you mentioned that barbecue party with prostitutes everybody wants meet you.

 

 

7 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

He didn't say prostitutes bruv he said whores...we aint gotta pay

Lol!

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Season 18/19 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Get Dyche and play 10 at the back. Barca will shit themselves.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

18 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Get Dyche and play 10 at the back. Barca will shit themselves.

Not sure if this is tongue in cheek or not but Burnley have come a fair bit since they first came up, they aren't exactly just a defensive team and they play a lot more than they used to. Anyway we won the league playing a similar style more or less haha, just sitting off teams with a back 5 and block of 4 in MF really. Personally I think Dyche has done an excellent job there actually. Not that he'll ever be considered for here and not that he should be (potentially he could end up managing a much bigger club in the future if he keeps going the way he has been but).

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🎼 Antoniooo, Antoniooo, Antonio, Antonio, Antoniooooo 🎼

[Fernando 6,585]

I really don't want Enrique nor Carlo, but it looks like one of them will come. 

[Unionjack 7,531]

I hate getting involved in threads like this and transfers because I end up getting my hopes up and normally end up a blithering wreck with need of a bottle of Valium and another full of MDMA!.

I really dont think it matters 1 bit just who we get or how good hes doing with us. Ever since Roman sacked Carlo I realized that unless you kiss his ring piece and his board full of kiss arse yes men then youre days are numbered, Carlo was sacked at the time (probably still) with one of the best records of any PL manager.

What has depressed me more is the weakness of alot of our players characters. They dont seem to be able to dig down and find another gear when needed. If its not all rosey in their garden then they walk around like lovestruck schoolboys with their hands on their hips and jaws dropping. That includes Eden.

OK we needed to phase out our old guard for younger lads but they were alot to do with the character of Chelsea. Ive read about some of the half time heated conversations the ads would have at half time when they would speak their minds aboutthe things that needed saying. Butthey would still pull it together and play like a team.

We dont have that strength of character any more We have a captain in Cahill who seems to have such a weak ego he needs to have to physically wear an armband to prove to himself hes the Captain instead of letting his actions speak for themselves. I  love Dave with a man crush but I'm not sure hes got that character needed to bring a team together. And I cant see any of the lads do sadly.

With Roman only really wanting a neutered eunuch of a head coach whose balls have neen firmly placed in a ever growing jar on Grannys desk without any real power and then only get a 2 year contract. And who will change the teams playing style to suit him instead of trusting one enough and giving them time building our character / playing style / formations. Instead I think we should be looking at our board and looking how to get back our old Chelsea attitude and character. Because right now even if Jesus Christ/Allah/Jehovah/Krishna/Aum/Nun/Ra/Bastet,Zeus etc etc (Didn't want to upset anyone and leave THEIR God out as I'm agnostic lol) was in charge of us they would get the Spanish archer in a year if they hadn't won fuck all.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

Metro.co.uk said Chelsea have LVG in place to replace Conte.

The shite the tabloids like typing to gain and get clicks.

 

 

[Jase 43,479]