Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Absolutely useless on the ball. He should really retire from football and try to compete in some track and field discipline, maybe decatholon. Until Caicedo turns another few of these performances, he will still be our most insane waste of money. Johnnyeye, robsblubot and Henrique 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Really needs to show something different to "look I am speed".Β Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,457 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, chelsea_4_eva said: Really needs to show something different to "look I am speed".Β Watched to much Flash on tv as a kid, doesn't know how to do anything else. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 He's everything Timo's haters called him. Β At least Timo could do something else.Β Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Shocking footballerΒ Johnnyeye and Henrique 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,917 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Really donβt understand it. He looked like an incredibly composed, monster of a technician before we bought him. A wonderful footballer. Taking the ball under pressure, dribbling through entire teams, putting in amazing crosses, scoring great goals. And it wasnβt just in the Ukrainian league, he did it in the UCL too. Now he looks like a terrified child thrown in the deep end. Canβt even do the basics right.Β Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 should have joined Arse instead, he was twerking for them until we swooped in, looking like a flop with each passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pizy said: Really donβt understand it. He looked like an incredibly composed, monster of a technician before we bought him. A wonderful footballer. Taking the ball under pressure, dribbling through entire teams, putting in amazing crosses, scoring great goals. And it wasnβt just in the Ukrainian league, he did it in the UCL too. Now he looks like a terrified child thrown in the deep end. Canβt even do the basics right.Β Itβs bc he just did it 1.5 seasons. That might still be a purple patch. Β or he might actually have the talent but not the confidence and routine to ever recreate it under greater pressure. Tons of young players looked like future world beaters for a season and then vanished into oblivion. I think this will be the case for many or our new big money signings. One season wonders who can only do it as underdogs but not when it really matters and with that huge price tag weighing them down. That is why you should never spend big on players that have not proven to handle huge pressure.Β robsblubot and Vegetable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Quote Strengths No outstandingΒ strengths Weaknesses Ball controlGround duels π Β from sofascoreΒ 17 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Itβs bc he just did it 1.5 seasons. That might still be a purple patch. Β or he might actually have the talent but not the confidence and routine to ever recreate it under greater pressure. Tons of young players looked like future world beaters for a season and then vanished into oblivion. I think this will be the case for many or our new big money signings. One season wonders who can only do it as underdogs but not when it really matters and with that huge price tag weighing them down. That is why you should never spend big on players that have not proven to handle huge pressure.Β yup that's one of the main dangers of buying super young players: the sample is too small -- often non-existant at the highest stage. It's hard to asses whether they have the right mentality. There is also a question about their physique. It's hard to even know whether they are injury-prone or not, because their career is just starting. Edited August 20, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Pizy said: Really donβt understand it. He looked like an incredibly composed, monster of a technician before we bought him. A wonderful footballer. Taking the ball under pressure, dribbling through entire teams, putting in amazing crosses, scoring great goals. And it wasnβt just in the Ukrainian league, he did it in the UCL too. Now he looks like a terrified child thrown in the deep end. Canβt even do the basics right.Β Against what teams ? Ukraine lost to England by 4-0 in an exhibition match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheHulk said: Stole Zakharyan's place in the team. Whilst I donβt think Mudryk has shown anything that good or will ever be worth the money we paid for him, what is this obsession with Zakharyan or players we were linked to but never signed every time someone plays poorly? I mean honestly, have you even watched Zakharyan? If you have (which I am sure you havenβt), youβll have noticed he isnβt a winger.Β But I suppose its the typical lets throw out a ridiculous comment about player X stealing player Yβs place in the team although they arenβt the same positions or same type of players or even both at the same club. What next? Caicedo stole Gvardiolβs place in the team? Or Jackson stole Veigaβs place in the team? Fuck sake. Try use your brain once in a while. Edited August 20, 2023 by OneMoSalah YorkshireBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said: our most insane waste of money. says hold my beer DH1988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,874 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nero said: Β chalk and cheese Lamine Yamal came on in the 76th minute and did fuckall in a nil nil draw for Barca against a meh Getafe side Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,457 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Whilst I donβt think Mudryk has shown anything that good or will ever be worth the money we paid for him, what is this obsession with Zakharyan or players we were linked to but never signed every time someone plays poorly? I mean honestly, have you even watched Zakharyan? If you have (which I am sure you havenβt), youβll have noticed he isnβt a winger.Β But I suppose its the typical lets throw out a ridiculous comment about player X stealing player Yβs place in the team although they arenβt the same positions or same type of players or even both at the same club. What next? Caicedo stole Gvardiolβs place in the team? Or Jackson stole Veigaβs place in the team? Fuck sake. Try use your brain once in a while. Who cares what position he was playing that's not even my point, he was a very talented player who wanted hard to play for the Chelsea shirt and was cheap. The only reason the move didn't happen is because Mudryk is from Ukraine and he is from Russia. Also cut down on the personal insults, weren't you one of the guys saying Mount is an absolute baller. Edited August 20, 2023 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, Vesper said: says hold my beer Lukaku was a probable failure ex ante as well but he came off a decent spell at inter and with a good goalscoring record and PL experience. Plus the PR lies about him loving Chelsea and us desperately needing a goalscorer. So a lot of arguments the fools could bring in his favour. Mudryk came off a decent season in Ukrainian league and 6 CL Games. For a position we were stacked. Thatβs a paper thin case in his favour. Lukaku is a bigger waste of money but Mudryk is the more insane one.Β robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: chalk and cheese Lamine Yamal came on in the 76th minute and did fuckall in a nil nil draw for Barca against a meh Getafe side Β Yeah its the good old Barca started a 16 year old academy graduate, he must be the best player on the planet thing again. Was the same every time they started someone under 21 with Pep. Barring Busquets and Thiago, look how well they all turned out. Likes of Tello, Cuenca, Bojanβ¦.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Who cares what position he was playing that's not even my point, he was a very talented player who wanted hard to play for the Chelsea shirt and was cheap. The only reason the move didn't happen is because Mudryk is from Ukraine and he is from Russia. Also cut down on the personal insults, weren't you one of the guys saying Mount is an absolute baller. Well isnβt position relevant when comparing 2 players? Or you could say look at Gvardiol why did we sign player X who is totally different position instead no? Instead of conspiracy theories about where their from and what not. Tin foil hat stuff. Its common sense to compare players who play in similar positions as opposed to opposite/totally different no?Β Said Mount was a good player yes. Still think he is but thatβs irrelevant. Β Edited August 20, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I think its amusing that Chelsea marketing camp convinced people that Mudryk is a serious baller. I mean, even in Brazil I've seen different pundits claiming that he is a very good player, even though I'm pretty sure none of them watched him play before joining us, lol. He was shocking. One of the most embarrassing performances I've seen from a Chelsea player. Once he replaced Carney we lost all of attacking flair.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Not going to trash the guy as everything was said since day one he came here. Where are we gonna go from here? He clearly has limitations, but question is whether team/Poch is capable of making use of him, namely things he does good, eg speed and physicality, in bigger scheme of things or he is going to play whatever position he is playing and we are going to delude ourselves that he is the new Hazard and get frustrated every time life proves he isn't. 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Plus the PR lies about him loving Chelsea and us desperately needing a goalscorer. If we won't manage to shift him this window I fully expect him going on spiritual trip to Tibet and coming back loving Chelsea again and willing to work and conquer the league.Β Freezing Mbappe out by PSG lasted whole one game, doubt either we and Lukaku can afford him being on gardening leave for long. He has terrible way of presenting himself to the world and seems to give up very easily, but if had he regained some motivation maybe we could at least try to use his size and deflect the ball of him or whatever.Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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