Graham Potter Thread

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

38 minutes ago, gdlk said:

Hansi Flick??? Media claim he has been on Stamford Bridge.. Also Boehly stomped dressing room after the match. 

That would be a solid option. 

Potter just reminds me of Moyes at United version 2.0, he's never had to handle so many egos/big names in the dressing room and you can tell he is out of his depth. 

There is no way that any fan should be accepting a 0-0 draw against our local rivals Fulham, particularly at home.   There was enough "talent" out there to score at least 1 goal against them. 

People used to Lampard was a bit out of his depth trying to manage Chelsea but at least he had connections with the club and understood the fans, Potter is no better and he hasn't really improved anyone this season other than Kepa...

[DDA 9,924]

If you look at Brighton after Potter I think we can all see now it wasn't Potter that did the great job there, it was the recruitment staff. At least we have some of that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Vegetable 830]

That whole "big egos" talk is just another way of blurring Potter's incompetence. There is no "egos", it's not 2015 anymore. It's just mid to big players and tiny manager, let's get it straight.

Maybe it works in baseball or whatever, but in top of the top football that PL is you just can't get a pass with some random dude as a manager. I wouldn't be surprised if even some of Brighton players wouldn't really have much respect for him, especially given his near-stereotypical character that is the opposite of a leader and serial winner. 

I just wonder what TB sees in him - yeah, he is a cartoon english man, but what percentage of fanbase give a shit about it? TB wanted to come out as a big time football visionary and got burnt, whatever, own up to a mistake. I'd much rather understand holding for dear life to Koulibaly than this absurd of a situation.

[Milan 17,955]

It is starting to remind me of the Belgium golden generation. Obviously, we had better teams in the past but the current squad is full of talented players. And we have appointed Graham Potter to get the best ouf of them.

I can't help it but it feels like that Belgium national team that is managed by useless Wilmots and Martinez...

[Laylabelle 9,534]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Wouldnt be surprised if Boehly and the board are looking for a replacement. Replacing him sharpish issues a statement that as a club we demand better. Also his number 2 Billy Reid ? looks equally perplexed when the cameras on him. If we draw /lose next couple of games it makes perfect sense to offload, before the half billion squad start turning on him/themselves.

They hired him in the first place so be intresting to know why...maybe they just saw someone doing well elsewhere and thought it would work here?

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22 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

maybe they just saw someone doing well elsewhere and thought it would work here?

But was he really? He kept mid-table team mid-table. Is that really the kind of success that draws Chelsea to you? Ranieri with Leicester was doing well, yeah. 

And I wont even get started on "good football" bs. Good football is like, yeah, winning freaking games, meanwhile some people look like they will watch games with hand in their pants because we are 49% instead of 37% vertical passes and draw to last team in the table. And the chad Potter comes out and stutters that we were fighting, but they were just too good.

I can, somehow, see what was TB idea, but yeah, idea and reality don't always go together and maybe the real football proven bit more complicated, than the bright, romantic idea. On the other hand, I don't understand it for shit. The "young and hungry talents" would probably be machines under like of Lampard, but Potter? Lol. He neither have the character nor the skill and one needs at least on of those for it to work.

Since GP appointment, I feel many of our fans got the mindset that burdened people supporting Arsenal for years.

Edited February 4, 2023 by Vegetable

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4 hours ago, Vesper said:

Potter out.

That's an interesting turn. What made you change your mind?

[Laylabelle 9,534]

29 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

But was he really? He kept mid-table team mid-table. Is that really the kind of success that draws Chelsea to you? Ranieri with Leicester was doing well, yeah. 

And I wont even get started on "good football" bs. Good football is like, yeah, winning freaking games, meanwhile some people look like they will watch games with hand in their pants because we are 49% instead of 37% vertical passes and draw to last team in the table. And the chad Potter comes out and stutters that we were fighting, but they were just too good.

I can, somehow, see what was TB idea, but yeah, idea and reality don't always go together and maybe the real football proven bit more complicated, than the bright, romantic idea. On the other hand, I don't understand it for shit. The "young and hungry talents" would probably be machines under like of Lampard, but Potter? Lol. He neither have the character nor the skill and one needs at least on of those for it to work.

Since GP appointment, I feel many of our fans got the mindset that burdened people supporting Arsenal for years.

For Brighton yes. Got them winning and getting results etc so doing what was expected. This job wayyy more pressure and its silly. Acted way to fast with Tuchel and this is where we are now..woopsie.

[Vytis33 1,261]

Has had zero imprint on this club so far. What’s our style of play that he’s trying to impose?  Known for his in-game tactical changes I heard when has that happened exactly?  We look clueless.  
 

Other managers are achieving more with far less than he’s had at his disposal.  

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

19 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

For Brighton yes. Got them winning and getting results etc so doing what was expected. This job wayyy more pressure and its silly. Acted way to fast with Tuchel and this is where we are now..woopsie.

I feel like Brighton won in every way possible.  De Zerbi is an upgrade on Potter and they managed to get rid of two players who didn't want to be there (first was Cucurella who had his head turned by City and then we ended up paying an extra 20 million for him for no reason) and then they sold off Trossard in January. 

Potter was thrown into a sink or swim type of situation and he's sinking at the moment.   When was the last time we actually had a solid win against a side in the top half of the table?  The performances we put up against Arsenal/Newcastle were borderline pathetic, we were chasing shadows for 90 minutes...the same can be said about the City game, they barely left 2nd gear. 

United have a good coach, Liverpool/City have elite coaches, Arsenal have found a good coach, Newcastle have a coach that has them playing on the front foot and Spurs have the Italian madman in charge.   It looks like we're the only ones with an average coach...

[Vegetable 830]

28 minutes ago, Vytis33 said:

Has had zero imprint on this club so far. What’s our style of play that he’s trying to impose?  Known for his in-game tactical changes I heard when has that happened exactly?  We look clueless.  
 

Other managers are achieving more with far less than he’s had at his disposal.  

Been making pretty much same post after every game since months now to no avail. Better give up and "trust the process"(of heading into relegation zone) mate, otherwise you are good weather fan 😂

[Laylabelle 9,534]

46 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

I feel like Brighton won in every way possible.  De Zerbi is an upgrade on Potter and they managed to get rid of two players who didn't want to be there (first was Cucurella who had his head turned by City and then we ended up paying an extra 20 million for him for no reason) and then they sold off Trossard in January. 

Potter was thrown into a sink or swim type of situation and he's sinking at the moment.   When was the last time we actually had a solid win against a side in the top half of the table?  The performances we put up against Arsenal/Newcastle were borderline pathetic, we were chasing shadows for 90 minutes...the same can be said about the City game, they barely left 2nd gear. 

United have a good coach, Liverpool/City have elite coaches, Arsenal have found a good coach, Newcastle have a coach that has them playing on the front foot and Spurs have the Italian madman in charge.   It looks like we're the only ones with an average coach...

Tbf to Arsenal Arteta looked competently out of his depth for a while...though did manage a trophy. He has managed to pull it around and good for them they stuck to their hiring and didn't fire him after the dodgy start of last season. Man U also dodgy start this season and haven't looked back since.. us however we don't show signs of getting out this spell we are in...its been a mistake and shouldn't have happened! Decison made to rash and nothing has changed since making it.

[Pizy 18,850]

I think he will 100% get the remainder of the season. If we show dramatic improvement once all the new boys settle in then obviously he’ll stay. If we labor through the rest of the season with more matches like last night then I think in the summer the ownership can legitimately say they gave him a whole season to improve and we didn’t and then get rid.

The tricky thing is that there isn’t some obvious candidate who is out of work that you’d be super sure about. 

You know who would be a very interesting option, though? Bielsa. For me personally I really want a manger who has a super defined, clearly obvious philosophy. And I do think that we now have the sort of player Bielsa can implement his style with.

[Vesper 30,085]

7 hours ago, lucio said:

Who would you replace him with ?

possible targets

(not in any complete order, and just so no one asks where he is, ZZ will likely never manage in England)

 

Julian Nagelsmann (likely no chance atm)

Mauricio Pochettino

Hansi Flick

Joachim Löw

Luis Enrique 

Lionel Scaloni (likely no chance atm)

Zlatko Dalic 

Oliver Glasner (Frankfurt)

Christian Streich (Freiburg)

Urs Fischer (Union Berlin)

Diego Simeone (not a good fit though) 

Abel Ferreira 

Franck Haise (Lens)

Régis Le Bris (Lorient)

Philippe Clement (Monaco)

Stefano Pioli

Gian Piero Gasperini 

Kasper Hjulmand

Thomas Frank

Roger Schmidt (eek)

Sérgio Conceição (Porto)

Rúben Amorim (Sporting Lisbon)

Marcelo Gallardo (last job, River Plate)

Hugo Ibarra (Boca Juniors)

Julien Stéphan

Gerardo Seoane

 

and one to watch down the road

Karel Geraerts (Royale Union Saint-Gilloise)

Edited February 4, 2023 by Vesper

[TheHulk 2,402]

Dyche needed less than a week to imprint his style on a worse team while going up against the leaders, while Potter with superstar team got 1 point out of 6 against Fullham. 

Edited February 4, 2023 by TheHulk